Tim Miles losing Arop?

[GBRhuskers_rivals203711]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I was at the Omaha-Colorado game and if the Mavs convert some 1-and-1s early in the second half, they upset the Buffs. Also saw the Minnesota-Omaha game on TV, and let's just say Little Ricky was lucky he got the Mavs at the end of a tough road trip.

Not saying the Huskers were scared to play them, but the Mavs were a better team last year than you are giving them credit for.

Sorry but I can't buy the thought of a team not converting 1 & 1's early in the second half as the difference between a win and a loss. You're talking 15 or so minutes left in a game for stuff to happen. Heck, going off of that thought, we should give Nebraska the benefit of the doubt against teams like Cincinnati, Miami, Maryland, and Ohio State. Three of the four were tournament teams and Nebraska had chances to win each game.

If this, or if that, and the outcomes are different. But, we don't. They're a loss, no matter how competitive we were in each game.

I get what you're saying, just don't see it applying to this discussion.

 

[Truehuskerfan]

Who is UN-L? Did you miss a letter and mean Las Vegas?

Check the link genius.

http://www.unl.edu/
.

I understand why sometimes fans from outside Nebraska don't understand why we say UNL when we are referring to the school as a whole, but never in an athletic sense. But a Husker fan shouldn't have to have this explained to them. Look at it this way, do you refer to Wisconsin as UW-Madison? Or Illinois as UIUC(for University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign)? Or Indiana as IU-Bloomington? So why would you refer to Nebraska as UNL? We are the flagship university of the University of Nebraska system and the preeminent athletic program. Why should we have to use a campus identifier? When people hear "Nebraska", nobody wonders whether they mean the Lincoln, Omaha or Kearney campuses. Everybody knows who Nebraska is-so why not just say Nebraska? But then again, you probably know all of this-I think your use of UNL above was intended to be derogatory and put Nebraska and UNO on the same level. Real classy.

 

[Dean Pope]

I don't claim to know enough about the man in question, but if you're a 6'6 guard playing against Nebraska highschool competition, averaging 15 points is not all that special.

That will translate into about 3 ppg in college.

Maybe he can develop further.

It depends. South has other guys who can score as well. 15 points a game in a balanced attack is just fine. Omaha has good HS ball right now too.

 

[Dean Pope]

CU would not have offered because at about 6'4" or maybe 6'5", he has the size of a shooting guard but does not have high major shooting guard skills. Unfortunately, he did not grow any bigger and his game is still primarily within 10 feet of the basket - which of course is why Miles wants him to go to prep school and hone his offensive skills. I understand Tim getting cold feet, because I don't think Aguek is Big Ten caliber and probably won't get there, but man the guy had to know this was going to blow up in his face.

Since when has Tim Miles valued size and shooting ability? Tim has fallen in love with the small lineup and as Creighton's scouting report will tell you, his teams can't shoot. I get tired of Doc and Tim holding Nebraska in-state kids to the highest of standards and then recruiting marginal talent from other places. The common thing I hear is "Will this Nebraska kid help us win the Big 10? Or could he be all-conference?"

But Evan Taylor can be brought in instead. Everybody knows that Taylor won't be a star, but that's OK because he was brought in to fill a role and help the team win. Can he shoot? Of course not, but that's OK because as Miles said, he's a "great guy and great teammate."

 

[kaz36_rivals189319]

Miles probably did Arop a favor by cutting him loose so now he can sign with a mid major that he can get playing time right away with instead of sitting the bench at a P5 school.

 

[newAD]

I understand why sometimes fans from outside Nebraska don't understand why we say UNL when we are referring to the school as a whole, but never in an athletic sense. But a Husker fan shouldn't have to have this explained to them. Look at it this way, do you refer to Wisconsin as UW-Madison? Or Illinois as UIUC(for University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign)? Or Indiana as IU-Bloomington? So why would you refer to Nebraska as UNL? We are the flagship university of the University of Nebraska system and the preeminent athletic program. Why should we have to use a campus identifier? When people hear "Nebraska", nobody wonders whether they mean the Lincoln, Omaha or Kearney campuses. Everybody knows who Nebraska is-so why not just say Nebraska? But then again, you probably know all of this-I think your use of UNL above was intended to be derogatory and put Nebraska and UNO on the same level. Real classy.

I was typing and differentiating between the two institutions. That's it. YOU Took it as not being classy, that's your issue.

 

[newAD]

So you think Nebraska basketball would be better if we focused more on Nebraska kids?

Nowhere in that was I comparing Iowa State basketball to Nebraska. I am talking about a school with a similar geographical situation. Lets not pretend those extra 4 hours is a make or break with Chicago kids especially when Nebraska is in the Big ten and have a lot more exposure in the Chicago compared to Iowa State. Iowa State is not in the middle of fertile recruiting grounds. They go out and get kids from around the country to come to Ames Iowa and they succeed at it. Hell Kansas has done it for years, you think Paul Pierce is from

Bottom line is Tim Miles has to make decisions ultimately based on if this will help them win Big 10 games and help build Nebraska basketball to take a step in the right direction as a program. That is why he offered the kid so early in the process and why he has ultimately chosen to cut ties with that kid. Who knows if this will be the right choice and if it isn't then he will be looking for new employment. But to think that the kid being from a certain area should play into this decision is absurd.

Absurd? Name me an era of basketball where we have been successful?

My point is, Nebraska has sucked in basketball for decades. When there is a D1 worthy player in Omaha, Nebraska damn well better get him. Im not saying you add just any player. Duh.

If you are going to offer a high school sophomore in Omaha a scholarship, you better be damn sure you want him. Now Miles looks either bad for insisting that AA go to prep school, OR stupid for offering in the first place. The looking bad part will likely be in the back of any Omaha area recruits mind as there could be doubts Miles will follow through on an offer. The image is Miles doesn't think Omaha guys are
good enough.

I have said in numerous post for about a year that if Nebraska (there is that better) will always struggle in basketball until they can fill their roster with a more than occasional player from the Omaha area. The programs history says I'm correct. Nebraska can not recruit for basketball the same way they do football. Nebraska is NOT Kansas who can be elite without getting local players.

Miles is worried about wasting a scholarship, but yet he keeps loosing or running off guys who still have eligibility (Petteway, Pitchford, White Iii, Smith, Hammond, Hawkins, Evelyn, etc, etc), so he's constantly short in his roster (which another poster has pointed out recently).

This is what some people aren't getting. There's at least one guy on UNO from Omaha who could at least get minutes at Nebraska (and yes there may have been academic issues with him). There's likely two major contributors on Creighton's roster (oh, and they own Nebraska in hoops right now), that Miles may or may not have tried real hard to get. Now Miles spurns an Omaha player who he offered almost 2 years ago. Meanwhile, there's a potentially pretty damn good player in Papillion graduating in 2 years.

 

[huskerbaseball13]

Miles probably did Arop a favor by cutting him loose so now he can sign with a mid major that he can get playing time right away with instead of sitting the bench at a P5 school.

Offered by Memphis this week. Judging by his stat line...he is completely dominating at Prep School. Not sure what the competition is like. I also have no inside information as to what actually went down. With that said, if I had my choice...give me Arop over Thor from Iceland.

 

[bmb81664]

So he decommitted from NU because they wanted him to go to prep school first. He then goes to a prep school? I am not going to lose much sleep unless he gets a offer from a P5 school.

 

[coachDubs]

So he decommitted from NU because they wanted him to go to prep school first. He then goes to a prep school? I am not going to lose much sleep unless he gets a offer from a P5 school.

He had one to Washington. He moved to a prep school in Washington. Washington didn't allow him to sign as he was expected to. Now, he's got a Memphis offer.

Such a big loss.

 

[huskerbaseball13]

He had one to Washington. He moved to a prep school in Washington. Washington didn't allow him to sign as he was expected to. Now, he's got a Memphis offer.

Such a big loss.

I think you are referring to Ed Chang.

 

[coachDubs]

I think you are referring to Ed Chang.

Chang, Arop - whatever the hell, neither are in Lincoln & Miles sucks. (To the idiot(s) that don't know better, the last part is mocking the board).

Thanks for the correction. Laughing

 

[Charlie Marlow_rivals363743]

Arop off to San Diego State

 

[jolley]

The player is not a a make/break player for the Huskers, that is the good news. The bad news is that Miles sort of looks like a moron even if it is not the case.

I won't pretend to know or care much about bball, but it seems to me, if the shoe fits, wear it.

 

[newAD]

Arop off to San Diego State

Saw that yesterday. Very interesting. I’m anxious to see what kind of a career he has there, and how the program does as the Steve Fisher era gets further and further in the past.

 

[dinglefritz]

Since when has Tim Miles valued size and shooting ability? Tim has fallen in love with the small lineup and as Creighton's scouting report will tell you, his teams can't shoot. I get tired of Doc and Tim holding Nebraska in-state kids to the highest of standards and then recruiting marginal talent from other places. The common thing I hear is "Will this Nebraska kid help us win the Big 10? Or could he be all-conference?"

But Evan Taylor can be brought in instead. Everybody knows that Taylor won't be a star, but that's OK because he was brought in to fill a role and help the team win. Can he shoot? Of course not, but that's OK because as Miles said, he's a "great guy and great teammate."

It's funny how that all worked out. Evan Taylor turned in to one of our best defenders and a guy who was a pretty consistent offensive contributor. He's going to be missed this next season.

 

[Dean Pope]

It's funny how that all worked out. Evan Taylor turned in to one of our best defenders and a guy who was a pretty consistent offensive contributor. He's going to be missed this next season.

Yep, good role player who actually shot the ball well last year.