OT another school shooting
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I will never understand this. What has changed in 35 years since I was a senior in high school? Pretty sure I know the answer.
Saddest, most baffling thing I can fathom. We won't get behind holding our representatives accountable to pass checks and tests with some actual teeth to require people to show they have two scraps of sense and mental stability to rub together.
Instead we send our kids to school to do drills for when somebody starts shooting up the place. It isn't hard to see the manufacturers have no interest in stopping it. Every time a big one happens they're sure to trot Wayne out to remind everyone they'd better buy some more of their own like that's some kind of solution.
Turned my stomach the day my 5 year old told me they did lockdown drills in school.
Instead we send our kids to school to do drills for when somebody starts shooting up the place. It isn't hard to see the manufacturers have no interest in stopping it. Every time a big one happens they're sure to trot Wayne out to remind everyone they'd better buy some more of their own like that's some kind of solution.
Turned my stomach the day my 5 year old told me they did lockdown drills in school.
Ever since Columbine these little ******** know that they'll go out famous if they take their problems out on 20 or so schoolmates instead of just jumping off a chair in their own damn room. Little **** will have his name all over every TV channel within hours.
And there are five more of them planning the next ones right now knowing they'll get their 15 minutes of fame.
Sincere question, what legislation do you believe would have stopped this? And what could a firearm manufacturer do to prevent it? It's admittedly a loaded question coming from me since I am a firearms enthusiast, but I think talking about ideas is in fact productive. I start work shortly, but hope this thread is still around when I get off.
Some students know who the shooter is.. Nothing conformed but a teacher may have passed by a student..
Too many stories going around being reported.
Too many stories going around being reported.
I am actually surprised that school shooting casualties are as low as they are ...so many times there are large pools of kids in 1 area during the day ...let just go back to muskets for civilians
If I got to design the legislation, I'd make it hard as hell to prove you're qualified to own a firearm and there would be limits on the type and number you could own. Long guns only. If you can't hunt what you're hunting or stop a break in with a shotgun or a bolt-action, I guess it just wasn't meant to be. That's the short version. You'd need to demonstrate a lot of aptitude and respect for your weapon to be licensed to own it.
It's such a lax culture that acts like guns are a crucial way of life and yet shows them no fundamental respect by treating them like toys and leaving them lying around in cars, night stands, etc. Then people act surprised when some kid gets his dad or uncle's guns and shoots up a school.
Along with that would have to be aggressive buybacks and sweeps to remove illegal arms from circulation. The reason none of the laws currently in place accomplish anything is because you're never more than a few hours' drive from totally circumventing those laws.
I used to shoot when I lived in NE, it's fun. I would probably own and maybe even hunt if I lived out in the country. But this business of having it be harder by far to get a driver's license than it is to buy something made for the purpose of killing living things...are we serious with all that? Why does anyone who calls himself a "responsible gun owner" stand up for the notion that any idiot should be able to walk into a shop and buy five of whatever puts a grin on his face?
Maybe they should make these schools "gun free" zones? We all know that more laws work since criminals are known for following the law, right?
I really like this...I would add this
You own a gun and that gun ends up in another persons hands and they commit a violent crime, you also get executed.
Shoot I have seen people take more safety precautions with their freaking Husker collectables than their guns.
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They need to go after the owner of the guns that these kids apparently have access to. And actually enforcing current gun laws would be a good start. The noise about "doing something about guns" is just hysteria until those 2 easily attainable things happen. I am a gun-toting 2nd amendment loving redneck, and thinks it's sad they have no interest in enforcing current laws.
18th school shooting so far this year.
Christ sake what is our country coming too.
Christ sake what is our country coming too.
#1 - The Bill of Rights - you need to study what it means and why the founding fathers created.
#2 - Harder to get a driver's license than to buy a gun!?! Are you purposely trying to be over dramatic or do you honestly believe that drivel? Since when do you need to pass an FBI background check to get a driver's license?
#3 - You used to shoot when you lived in NE? I'd hardly count that one time you shot your cousin's 22 rifle that one summer day as a kid as anything worth mentioning.
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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The written portion is a *****! How many feet can you park from a hydrant? Come on!
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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I must have missed where I had to have an original birth certificate, go through a federal background check, and get fingerprinted to carry around my drivers license.
But by all means, let's go the hysterical route.
But by all means, let's go the hysterical route.
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It depends though, are you counting in the super friendly people at the DMV and the totally realistic wait times?
HA! You all discuss this like LIFE is of valued importance and that tragedy's can be avoided. Our society stopped caring about these issues a long time ago. Some stupid $@%& about unalienable rights written well over 200 yrs ago that people actually got sold (& bought) into...pathetic. Don't believe me? I'll gladly start listing all of the popular BS "take your eye of the ball" counterarguments that get spewed before any current tragedy is even completed....yes, that common rhetoric is successful and has brought a tremendous amount of apathy, and normalization, towards this issue. IMO Gun violence isn't even considered a tragedy today (maybe 10+yrs ago but now it doesn't even register...like hearing about someone in a car accident, etc.).
Happy V Day and I hope that anyone you care about never gets in a lethal situation that is completely unnecessary.
Happy V Day and I hope that anyone you care about never gets in a lethal situation that is completely unnecessary.
Limit high capacity and rapid fire semi-auto weapons. The weapons industry would need to fundamentally change, their approach to marketing nearly every type of firearm imaginable to the general public would need to end. The marketing of firearms was very different when I was a kid. In general, socially alienated people didn’t have access to weapons of war.
18 school shootings in 43 calendar days of 2018. I hate guns so them being banned outright would not impact me at all. Having said that, an outright ban would not work nor be fair to the responsible gun owners.
A crazy idea I have is to offer gun buybacks while offering way more than the gun is worth. Combine that with making it extremely difficult to get a gun going forward and maybe it's a starting point? I don't know. People way smarter than me haven't figured out the proper balance so doubt I have the answers.
A crazy idea I have is to offer gun buybacks while offering way more than the gun is worth. Combine that with making it extremely difficult to get a gun going forward and maybe it's a starting point? I don't know. People way smarter than me haven't figured out the proper balance so doubt I have the answers.
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I hope the same for you, especially to not get mowed down by a truck-wielding psycho in a gun-free country
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I'm all for laws on the books being enforced. But they rarely are. Therein lies the problem, and everyone that has a scary gun gets labeled as crazy. It's almost laughable how little people think about gun-owners. 99.9% of us support the current laws, but get incredibly frustrated when they are not enforced.
I don't believe labeling gun owners as "crazy" accomplishes anything. I don't see the appeal of guns but that's me. Other people don't see the appeal of stuff I like (like video games for example).
I don't claim to have the answers or any original ideas. I just wish there was a way to decrease gun violence while still allowing firearm hobbists to continue to enjoy the stuff they like.
Or, instead of parading ineffective legislation as if it’s the only type , you could actually take issue with Beav’s proposal and show why it would be ineffective. I don’t recall him saying anything about ‘gun free’ zones, which makes your comment nothing if not a red herring.
there'll be a lot of hand wringing and opinions, but nothing's changing.
stay safe and buy guns.
maybe this will help remington out of bankruptcy.
stay safe and buy guns.
maybe this will help remington out of bankruptcy.
Good idea ignore the mental disorders we have in this country and just take away one of the tools for these people to do these acts of terror. Lets punish everyone else that legally owns weapons all because people refuse to teach their children right from wrong at a young age. This isn't a gun control problem its a mentally weak countries problem. I am not against better gun control than we have now but you are far out in left field.
At this time if you have children tell them that you love them tonight...
Ya never know when this can happen again.
Say a prayer for the victims family tonight as well.
Ya never know when this can happen again.
Say a prayer for the victims family tonight as well.
Perhaps they should pass legislation to make it illegal to commit murder in schools.
Go Blue!
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