Go ahead and explain how a gun free zone improves the situation wrt criminals intent on murder.
OT another school shooting
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While one is too many, this is one of those completely propagandized statistics. Of those 18 "school shootings" :
Four involved simply a bullet passing through the window of a dorm or school window, likely not originating on the school grounds and none of them caused injuries. One was in fact an accidental discharge in the Grayson College Criminal Justice Center, but was counted as a "school shooting."
One involved a student firing a gun on the school grounds in Mobile, Alabama with no specific target, and one case was a drive by that occurred in the parking lot of a Dearborn, Michigan school. No injuries or deaths in either case.
One involved a 3rd grader pulling the trigger on an officer's sidearm in Minnesota, and one involved a shot being fired in a New York school with now injuries or deaths.
NONE of these are good incidents, but claiming there have been 18 school shootings in a month and a half is only true if you use a ridiculous, completely insane definition for the term, and that is done in this case to push an agenda. Those are just the eight I looked into, and that is already half that don't fit what most people would actually consider a "school shooting."
Thank you for responding to my post, and I appreciate the civility regarding a very touchy topic.
One thing I want to address quickly is the "lax culture" statement. I don't know where you got that impression, but people in the firearms enthusiast community tend to be some of the most obsessive when it comes to safety, myself being counted among them. That is not to say that there aren't idiots out there and people don't do stupid things, but the "culture" around the firearms community tends to be the exact opposite of what you suggest.
I'll try to respond to the rest later tonight or tomorrow, got a really quick break in while working to check HOL. Gotta love corrections.
We're not here to talk about your mental abilities.
That would be a REALLY slow cooker!
Amazing how we can't even morn as a country anymore without politics coming into things. Instead of trying to improve things, let's be sure to not budge an inch when it comes to gun control. That approach is working so well.
Unfortunately, legislation can only do so much. Something is wrong with the soul of America. If you respect others, you do not kill them - with a guns, knifes, bats, fists - anything. How did we lose respect for human life?
You guys? So now we are criminals? Why would anyone limit their means of self defense? You sir, are too much of an emotional disgrace to even get involved in this topic.
You did not explain your claim. You came back with another strawman argument.
As for budging an inch we have background checks, waiting periods, permit requirements etc. Our rights have been infringed too much.
Shoot, sorry, is this like telling a 6 yr old Santa isnt real?
He was over 18 I suspect. the fact that he was kicked out of school for being unstable etc and no prefessional, that we know of, ever analyzed the kid is crazy to me.
99.9999999% of gun owners did not shoot anyone today. By any standard that is an overwhelming success.
Stricter gun laws would help but the main issue is mental health identification and services. When you have a school of 3000 there are so many students with a history of abuse and neglect that are going through puberty and are realizing at the same time that they do not fit into this game of American life. We have a highly competitive culture, combined with a me and what have you done culture, that ignores sexual and physical abuse, views programs of physical and mental health as weak and obstructive, and then we let kids get access to high powered assault rifles. There were 1 million AR-15s solid in America last year. Whatever the background checks there are millions of high powered guns just floating around. As a teacher in a school of 2300+ , I too am surprised this doesn't happen more often...and it is the love that teachers and adults give daily that keep it from being a more regular occurrence.
It is law enforcement. Multiple reports of very negative behavior, weapons, resistance stances and heavy gun involvement. Who should investigate, someone should don't you think. Who is responsible for the insane and diagnosing it?
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