The committee has always said they don’t take into consideration where teams finish in conference. Or how many teams each conference make it. Iowa finished fourth on the Big Ten one year but didn’t make it in. The fifth and sixth place teams made it I believe.
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If it wasn't evident already, the Huskers have to win out and get at least one win in the Big Ten tourney to control their destiny. If we finish 24-9 with two wins against UM, I don't see how the committee can leave us out.
Anything less than that and we're leaving it up to Selection Sunday dart throws with hopes that other bubble teams falter down the stretch.
Anything less than that and we're leaving it up to Selection Sunday dart throws with hopes that other bubble teams falter down the stretch.
I disagree that NU needs to win out AND beat Michigan in the quarterfinals. That would guarantee NU a bid, but I think winning out and losing to Michigan in the quarterfinals could land NU in the First 4.
If NU loses any of the remaining 4 regular season games, they are definitely going to have to advance at least to the semifinals of the B1G tournament.
Edit: Sorry - just reread, we’re saying the same thing.
If NU loses any of the remaining 4 regular season games, they are definitely going to have to advance at least to the semifinals of the B1G tournament.
Edit: Sorry - just reread, we’re saying the same thing.
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketbal...ball-top-16-reveal-what-sundays-rankings-mean
Watch this podcast about the top 16 seeds by the committee as of yesterday, and listen to their criteria and how many times Rasmussen says "Quadrant 1". There will be a lot of critical thinking and looking at all facts for the bubble teams.
Katz says something similar to, "Conference affiliation only matters to who you play, not where you stand at the end of the season." Rasmussen nodded. So as I have said, being the #4 seed at the end, doesn't automatically mean Nebraska would be taken if the BIG gets 4 teams in.
I am encouraged by the fact that The BIG has 3 in the top 16 (when the BIG is listed #7 in conference RPI), but.....still very nervous.
Watch this podcast about the top 16 seeds by the committee as of yesterday, and listen to their criteria and how many times Rasmussen says "Quadrant 1". There will be a lot of critical thinking and looking at all facts for the bubble teams.
Katz says something similar to, "Conference affiliation only matters to who you play, not where you stand at the end of the season." Rasmussen nodded. So as I have said, being the #4 seed at the end, doesn't automatically mean Nebraska would be taken if the BIG gets 4 teams in.
I am encouraged by the fact that The BIG has 3 in the top 16 (when the BIG is listed #7 in conference RPI), but.....still very nervous.
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Of course finishing 4th doesn't guarantee Nebraska a spot in the field - I've never said otherwise. That's why I didn't agree with the people who were rooting for Michigan to lose yesterday - finishing ahead of Michigan just because Michigan stumbles down the stretch does nothing for Nebraska. But if Michigan wins its remaining games and Nebraska still finishes ahead of them, that means the Huskers kept winning, which is the only factor NU really controls. It also, in my opinion, gives Nebraska an advantage if those two teams end up in a #4 vs. #5 matchup in the conference tournament. Those are the reasons I want Nebraska to hang onto the #4 spot - not because it's a magic ticket to the dance.
I wasn't calling you out. I was pointing out that the schedule is more important than the regular season conference standings. Some on here have been hung up on numbers for wins and being in the top 4 seed being a ticket to the dance.
I said after the Ohio State game that Nebraska could win out the regular season (23-8 regular season), and still be left out of the dance. I still say that is entirely possible when you listen to Rasmussen say why certain teams got the nod over others in the top 16.
Right now I am just hoping for a trip to Dayton and then let the chips fall where they may.
Right now Nebraska has only one guaranteed way into the dance. Anything else is speculation. We could get to the CCG, but have an absolute nightmare scenario where say Illinois beats Michigan, and have to play them. Then what if a Northwestern beats Ohio State in the quarters? Nebraska could get to the final without getting a top 50 neutral court/Quad 1 victory.
The most important questions to the committee seem to be, "Who have you played?" "Who have you beat?"
Some people keep talking about Michigan, but right now, Maryland still has hopes for a spot in the dance (remote, but beating Nebraska would be a Quad 1 win for them). And who would have thought, Penn State is not out of consideration yet.
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If you believe Joe Lunardi, here are the teams Nebraska is in competition with for the final spots, and who we want to have a bad rest of February and March:
Last Four Byes
Last Four In
First Four Out
Next Four Out
Last Four Byes
Last Four In
First Four Out
Next Four Out
My experience with Polish people is that they are very trustworthy
I'd love if Nebraska had the chance to play any of the teams ahead of them. Nebraska (in my opinion) is every bit as good as those teams, probably better. They had a bad situation in that the top 3 teams in the conference all happened to be games fairly early in the season (sans Ohio State) and on the road. If any one of those teams were playing in the Vault now, I'd give Nebraska more than a puncher's chance of winning.
This team needs to keep its edge, because while all four of these final games are winnable, they are also games that can be lost. Maryland is no slouch. Penn State is playing at a much higher level now that the whole team is healthy. Any game on the road takes work. And Indiana has some athletes on their team.
If they finish the regular season with nine straight wins, I'd certainly be disappointed if they were left out. I know criteria changes each year, but the committee used to always look at teams who were playing well down the stretch. You can't play much better than winning the final nine.
I agree on all. I believe on 1620 this morning they were talking about how the committee used to be big on your last 10 games or whatever the criteria was. I'd be a lot more confident if that was still in the criteria.
Hey I was Polish for a day!! My roommate in college was from Boelus. I was in his wedding. I believe I was the only guy who's name didn't end in ski or sky. Plus I had too many vowels!!! So they gave me an honorary Polish name for the weekend.
That's the most fun I've ever had at a wedding. Dance was at the fairgrounds in Loup City. No AC. Drank a case of beer, sweated it all out on the dance floor and felt completely sober afterwards.
That was polka on steroids!!!
I also remember that. The last part of the season carried more weight especially if they were the hot team coming in.
http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/mens-basketball-selections-101-selections
It's not a listed factor. It may be something one of the members could bring up in discussion, but as the first bullet says:
- An extensive season-long evaluation of teams through watching games, conference monitoring calls and regional advisory committee rankings;
One case of beer at a Polish wedding? Were you the designated driver?
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Being a German at a Polish wedding, someone had to be the intellectual one!!
At this point we need to Michigan to win because they are 8 RPI spots away from being a Quadrant 1 win for us! Really that is all that is missing is that type of win. We are sitting at 0-6 in Quadrant 1 which means we could win out and get passed up by teams that have worse records but have Quadrant 1 wins. The committee is putting a lot of focus on Quadrant 1 wins (quality wins) this year as made clear on their recent 16 projections.
Win out, and grab a win or two in the Big 10 tourney and take the decision away from the committee. This team is built for tournaments and stretches because of the depth they have, so they can handle business in the Big 10 tournament. Maryland has worred
Win out, and grab a win or two in the Big 10 tourney and take the decision away from the committee. This team is built for tournaments and stretches because of the depth they have, so they can handle business in the Big 10 tournament. Maryland has worred