anyone know if bill is calling it quits after today's game, here in southern Nebraska been hearing some rumblings it might be his last game
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Could be. I bet he pulls a Bo Ryan and quits before the start of the season so his son get the HC job.
He is KSU, there would never be any discussion about KSU football if not for Bill Snyder. I am always perplexed how many Nebraska fans spaz out about how Coach Snyder inserts himself into much of the direction of the KSU program but have no problem with the way Osborne has always inserted his little paws into the Nebraska program?
Never been to Southern Nebraska. What’s the climate like there?
Right now a balmy 1 degree
While I agree there is no KSU football without Snyder. But there are many Nebraska fans that are unhappy about how much influence he had and the decisions he made after he stopped coaching.
The issue most people have is that Snyder is holding KSU hostage to get is son the job. Which is really crappy since they have two highly sought after alumni’s that want to come back and coach. Who knows if they’ll have that window again. They’ve already seen how fast their program can crumble with the wrong coach.
How so?
1. He is a K State guy.
2. He understands the program. the fans, the expectations.
3. He was an All-American player for K State.
4. He bleeds, purple and white.
5. He has been there and knows what has worked and not worked the last 26 years.
What makes taking a former player and coach such a bad deal?
because TO would never sabotage the program to get his son hired....also...there is this guy named Bobby D. he actually invented Nebraska football.
Except Frost has been a coach at multiple places. Had success at multiple places and has been a HC. He sounds more like Solich than Frost.
If KSU didn’t have two high profile candidates expressing interest, I don’t think this would be as big of deal. But they may miss their opportunity.
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This. I live in KC and I have yet to run into a KSU fan that is really excited about Sean Snyder as their next head coach. Most are completely against the idea.
Frost is an apples to oranges comparison. He played professionally under Gruden, Parcells, and Belichick. He played in college under Walsh and Osborne. He was a successful recruiter and coach at KSU and Northen Iowa. He helped Kelly build one of the most high powered offenses, and won multiple conference championships and coached a team that played for a national title. Then he went on to UCF, took a 0-12 team to a bowl game in his first year, and then to a 12-0 regular season and a conference championship in year two.
He’s had significant success as a coach outside of the cozy umbrella of Nebraska. Not to mention the fact he was highly sought after this past month by us, Florida, Florida State, and Miami. Sean Snyder has spent his career at KSU and has no outside experience. No one is going to be knocking down his door to hire him as an HC because his experience is comparatively limited. He’s a pretty big risk, and most KSU fans know their margin of error is significantly less than Blue Chip programs. Texas can miss for 2 decades. Nebraska can miss for 2 decades. USC, Tennessee, Florida, etc can miss for decades and make their way back with the right hire. KSU has a limited opportunity, and they know the wrong hire sets them back significantly more than other programs.
So now Iowa fan is taking up the cause for KSU? This has to be the first sign of the apocalypse.
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Coaches take all sorts of different paths. Look at Osborne, he didn't need to go anywhere else and got it done.
Nobody knows what will happen 5 years down the line, but we all hope for the best.
Well, Snyder was Hayden Fry’s OC for 10 years and helped Iowa actually win something. And the KSU Powercat is eerily similar to the Hawkeye logo. And guess what, if KSU hires Sean Snyder they will essentially a head coach that will guarantee them mediocrity for the entirety of his career. So for this Herky I guess it takes one to know one.
True. But 1) I just think the game has really changed since TO took over, and I would venture to say if we looked at a sampling of coaches, the most successful ones more often than not have more experience similar to Frost. TO was probably the outlier, not the status quo. 2) It’s completely anecdotal, but when the fan base isn’t behind it, I just think it’s telling as to how the HC will do. College Head Coaches have a very difficult job in terms of buy in. The administration has to buy in, the regents, the players, the fans. It’s money driven, but not to the same extent as the NFL, so the buy in factor in the NFL isn’t what it is in college. The passion just runs deeper and therefore the buy in is more difficult. Personally I can honestly say I’m more bought in (and it seems to me most Husker fans are) to Frost than any other coach since TO. In my experience that is not the case with KSU and Sean Snyder.
You have to ask yourself the same question about Sean Snyder that you would about our last four head coaches. Would they be in consideration for the head coach at another school? If not, they shouldn’t be at Kansas State, Nebraska or any other Power 5 school for that matter.
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Snyder Jr. Is K-states Solich in many ways. Snyder may not be able to do the same Osborne can do though. Osborne has everyone convinced he wants no part of things, but somehow manages to have his fingers in the punch when he sees fit.
Knock, knock.
Who's there?
Dana Bible, Fred Dawson, Bummy Booth, Jumbo Stiehm and Ernest Bearg.
Oh, right.
:Cool:
(The Bobfather brought it back from the dead.)
Snyder should've been the coach pick after Solich. Nebraska would be sitting around with a few more Natties
Well remember, Sean Snyder spent one year at Iowa. So this is the same kind of close, personal, BFF relationship that leads someone to repeatedly refer to Bob Diaco as "Bobby" and claim that Bobby is going to land a much better job than the one he had at Nebraska.
IMO, no coach should have the authority to appoint the next Head Coach. Tom should not have had that power when he did it with Frank and Bill should not have it at KSU. It's is the coach's job to coach, and the AD's job to hire and fire.
IMO Bill is one of the top 10 best college coaches of all time for what he did at KSU so I mean no disrespect.
IMO Bill is one of the top 10 best college coaches of all time for what he did at KSU so I mean no disrespect.
This time I think though Tom may have the right recipe for the punch. I'm hopeful that we're done hiring head coaches for a long long time.
I think Snyder's got a good thing going at K-State. Who would be a better hire than Sean Snyder? I admit that I am not up on all of the issues surrounding the Wildcats. Bill Snyder has twice led a bad program back to respectability. If his son can replicate Bill's system and retain the rest of the staff, I think it's a good move.
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Word. If it doesn't work, it's gonna be REALLY hard for people to be objective and consistent.
Brent Venables and Jim Leavitt have both expressed interest in the job. They both look to be better candidates than Sean (who knows what they would pan out to be in reality). Out of Venables, Leavitt and Sean Snyder, which one is not like the others?
You can probably add Bret Bielema to the list of people who would be interested in the job.
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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None of it. You are the one who has no respect for TO and his opinions. That makes you a bad fan.
Time to get on board, Blo is gone and not coming back. The Husker train is back on the rails and moving forward. Time to get on, or lose your ticket.
This makes no sense. Of course I said nothing about Pelini or showed no disrespect for TO. Why do you say stupid things? Do you think they are not stupid?
OK. I can see how people would be excited about those two names. I guess the next question I would have is, what is Sean Snyder like? Is he close to a carbon copy of his old man? If so, then hire the guy. Or is he another in a long line of sons who cannot come close to measuring up to their fathers?
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I'm not the one constantly pining for Blo, your posting history here has shown that. Like I said, even Osborne knew he was the wrong hire and needed to go. You can always go to the YSU board if you want. Husker nation needs to move on from bad fans like you.
Yes, of course Sean Snyder also has never been a defensive/offensive coordinator during his time at KSU. While, that may not make him a bad Head Coach but to act like Nebraska hiring Frost is akin to KSU hiring Snyder is a bit disingenuous. How many other power 5 programs will be looking to hire Snyder as HC if KSU does not give him a chance?
Heck I don't know. Sean maybe just as good as his dad has been coaching the Wildcats. There is a big difference between Sean and Scott Frost. I believe Sean has spent his entire coaching career in Manhattan. Scott was a GA at both Nebraska and Kansas State. He was an assistant position coach at both Northern Iowa and Oregon. A coordinator, Co DC at Northern Iowa and OC at Oregon. Finally Scott has been a head coach at UCF for 2 years. I would think Scott's experience at different schools would be greater than one who stayed at one school. In the end the only thing that will matter is how well they do in the future.