Tim Miles should get another year

[Harry Caray]

But I get the distinct feeling that some people here just don't want Miles held accountable for anything, and don't think he should meet any performance standards whatsoever.

I don't think that's true. I've been very critical of Miles. They only reason I didn't want him fired last year was because I didn't want Eichorst to hire another coach.

I'm just pointing out that people don't realize how bad the perception of Nebraska Basketball is in coaching circles. FWIW, Eichorst put feelers out to Tom Crean last year and he had no interest. He'd rather not coach for a year than take this job. If we fire Miles, we'll bring on the next mid-major coach. We might find the Dave Van Horn of basketball, or it could be another Barry Collier. But I don't think Moos has any desire to buy out another coach this year, hence why I said Miles will get one more year.

Also consider this: At his press conference, Moos had no idea that Nebraska Basketball had never won an NCAA tournament game. The guy that interviewed and accepted the AD job here had zero familiarity with the #2 revenue sport here. That says a lot about the perception of our basketball program.

 

[TrueBigRedFan]

If the season ended today and I think he will. I don't think there is a doubt after the performances in the last 3 games that this team will win some games this year in a down year for the Big 10. IMO if he finishes with a winning record and secures an NCAA/NIT bid Moos will give him year 7. This is the most athletic team I've seen at NU in quite some time. While last night hurt and not a fan of moral victories, but that was a team that could go toe to toe with Bill Self and co even if it is a down year for KU hoops.

I appreciate your thoughts here. Coach Miles, like Coach Riley are both very nice people.

But Coach Miles has been as Nebraska for a number of years now, and we know what we are going to get from his Coaching and Recruiting. And at this point it is not Good Enough.

Beating #13 Kansas and playing 2 or 3 good games does not make a Big 10 Championship level team, nor a Top 20 Team Nationally, and definitely not a NCAA Qualifying Team.

I like Coach Miles and am pulling for the Team to be successful and win. However at the end of the season, if we finish in the same position we have been now since we entered the Big 10, I believe it is time to strongly consider making a Coaching Staff change.

If we end the season with significant improvement, then IMO Mr. Moos and Coach Miles should have a discussion about keeping the momentum growing. And take the actions necessary to make that happen.

JMO, but its time to make changes if we don't end the season with Significant Improvement in the Win-Loss Columns. And Qualifying for the NCAA tourney. It's time to raise the Standard of what we will Accept at Nebraska Basketball. We've have accepted a Standard that is Way to Low for Way to Long.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

How exactly has Miles been held back by the transition from Osborne to Eichorst to Moos? Was Miles led to believe that T.O. was going to be his long-term AD, against all evidence to the contrary? I'm dying to hear how this "instability" in the AD's office contributed to three straight sub-.500 seasons and dropping 13 of their last 16 games last season.

I'm for setting very reasonable expectations for the NU basketball coach, and they don't include Final Fours, Sweet Sixteens or conference championships. But I get the distinct feeling that some people here just don't want Miles held accountable for anything, and don't think he should meet any performance standards whatsoever.

Husker fans actually believe that crap. It's hilarious

 

[schuele]

I don't think that's true. I've been very critical of Miles. They only reason I didn't want him fired last year was because I didn't want Eichorst to hire another coach.

I'm just pointing out that people don't realize how bad the perception of Nebraska Basketball is in coaching circles. FWIW, Eichorst put feelers out to Tom Crean last year and he had no interest. He'd rather not coach for a year than take this job. If we fire Miles, we'll bring on the next mid-major coach. We might find the Dave Van Horn of basketball, or it could be another Barry Collier. But I don't think Moos has any desire to buy out another coach this year, hence why I said Miles will get one more year.

Also consider this: At his press conference, Moos had no idea that Nebraska Basketball had never won an NCAA tournament game. The guy that interviewed and accepted the AD job here had zero familiarity with the #2 revenue sport here. That says a lot about the perception of our basketball program.

I agree with you on this, and I laugh when I see comments about NU getting a "proven Power 5 coach." No proven Power 5 coach is going to take the Nebraska job unless he's carrying some major baggage. But the fact that we're not going to get Dana Altman or Tony Bennett or Greg Marshall (who's not Power 5 but also way beyond NU's reach) can't be an excuse for letting the Boehm/Miles regime just jog in place forever. After all, we only got Dave Van Horn because Bill Byrne finally wanted to lay down some performance standards for John Sanders, and it made Sanders so irate he managed to get himself fired.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

I don't think that's true. I've been very critical of Miles. They only reason I didn't want him fired last year was because I didn't want Eichorst to hire another coach.

I'm just pointing out that people don't realize how bad the perception of Nebraska Basketball is in coaching circles. FWIW, Eichorst put feelers out to Tom Crean last year and he had no interest. He'd rather not coach for a year than take this job. If we fire Miles, we'll bring on the next mid-major coach. We might find the Dave Van Horn of basketball, or it could be another Barry Collier. But I don't think Moos has any desire to buy out another coach this year, hence why I said Miles will get one more year.

Also consider this: At his press conference, Moos had no idea that Nebraska Basketball had never won an NCAA tournament game. The guy that interviewed and accepted the AD job here had zero familiarity with the #2 revenue sport here. That says a lot about the perception of our basketball program.

Totally false on Crean. Good try though

 

[oldjar07]

That's not the perception in coaching circles. They are all well-liked and highly-regarded by other coaches, and they've all failed here.

Sure, as die-hard Husker fans, we believe the job has many positives. But you have to put yourself in the shoes of coaches who have no ties to Nebraska. To them, the program is the equivalent to KU Football. A basketball wasteland. The right coach could change that perception. But you're not going to convince a proven great coach to take this job.

There's a reason why we had to give Tim Miles a 7-year contract to take the job.

I don't want a proven coach. Take a chance on an up and comer. If he works out, great. If not, get rid of him. I don't think Tim Miles was a bad hire. We've kept him for far too long when it's been proven all of his success was due to his assistant.

 

[Harry Caray]

Totally false on Crean. Good try though

Separate sources told The World-Herald they had second-hand knowledge of NU “reaching out” in some form to intermediaries of Indiana’s Tom Crean and Nevada’s Eric Musselman to gauge interest.

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/mens-b...cle_97c79ff2-046c-11e7-8963-63fb7cb6188e.html

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Separate sources told The World-Herald they had second-hand knowledge of NU “reaching out” in some form to intermediaries of Indiana’s Tom Crean and Nevada’s Eric Musselman to gauge interest.

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/mens-b...cle_97c79ff2-046c-11e7-8963-63fb7cb6188e.html

Yes I know about that BS article. Barfy is nothing more than a Miles-apologist lying piece of trash. He has been wrong so many times. Moos will soon find out how much of a snake Barfy is when he starts blaming Moos because poor Timmy can't perform unless he is getting his haircut.

 

[chicolby]

WRONG!!!

One appearance in the NCAA? Big Wow? Did the Huskers win a game? No. Best team since Danny Nee? Double Big Wow? How many NCAA Tournament games did Nee's teams win? ZERO. I am not basing it on one game but on the overall performance and accomplishments of the team under Miles. Keep banging your head against the wall.

The reason this first claim of comparing Miles to Riley is wrong is because Nebraska basketball simply hasn’t shown success in the past....ever. As where football obviously had many years of success, even comparably in recent years over the Riley era.

There is simply no comparing the two situations.

I’m not claiming Miles is the best guy for the job. Simply stating that outside of 10 or so blue bloods, every team thinks they should be able to compete at a higher level, but several fail to break through.

I believe with the fan support and facilities that our expectations should be higher than finishing in the bottom 4 of the B1G, but turning around any program with no history of success is easier said than done.

Add to the crooked nature of many successful programs it’s even harder to do it.

I’m not an apologist, but I do recognize the talent that’s been assembled here under Miles.

 

[huskerfan1414]

Miles was one of the hottest up-and-coming coaches when we hired him. He had turned around every program he'd coached. Sadler is one of the most well-liked guys in coaching circles. Barry Collier built the Butler program. That's 3 guys who had promising coaching careers ruined by taking this job.

Facilities can only get you so far. Every major-conference program these days has facilities. We have zero tradition and zero in-state recruiting base. We are the KU Football of College Basketball.

So why did these guys take the Nebraska job then? All these up and comers, miles hottest young coach even after collier and sadler came...

YOURE WRONG.

 

[meo1960]

It is just like Riley. The same people who wanted Riley to have another year now want Miles to have another year. It's just Sad. Miles has never done anything at Nebraska to justify he continues as the men's basketball coach.

Does Nebraska basketball have some sort of history I'm not aware of?
I'm a casual fan but this is the best I've ever seen them look. Sure it's been slow, but I see us on an upward trajectory.

 

[schuele]

Does Nebraska basketball have some sort of history I'm not aware of?
I'm a casual fan but this is the best I've ever seen them look. Sure it's been slow, but I see us on an upward trajectory.

Huskers also looked good and appeared to be on an upward trajectory last January. Then they dropped 13 of their last 16, including several games in which they didn't look like they gave half a crap.

Maybe this team will be different. Palmer has, at least so far, been a very big addition. Copeland looks like his injuries have taken a toll on him, but he's still a good player. When given the opportunity, Allen has shown why he had an impressive offer sheet. But all of this needs to translate into wins - enough wins to climb out of the bottom-feeder division of the Big Ten.

 

[Baxter48_rivals204143]

Does Nebraska basketball have some sort of history I'm not aware of?
I'm a casual fan but this is the best I've ever seen them look. Sure it's been slow, but I see us on an upward trajectory.

NU basketball has been pretty mediocre at best for years, Danny Née brought a spark to it for 8-10 years. They've been giant killers pulling of some upsets throughout the year's. I think there only conference title came in the 1950s

 

[Baxter48_rivals204143]

Does Nebraska basketball have some sort of history I'm not aware of?
I'm a casual fan but this is the best I've ever seen them look. Sure it's been slow, but I see us on an upward trajectory.

NU basketball has been pretty mediocre at best for years, Danny Née brought a spark to it for 8-10 years. They've been giant killers pulling of some upsets throughout the year's. I think there only conference title came in the 1950s

 

[hddude55]

If I was a Jaysker, I would post lots of pro-Miles propaganda. I can only assume that is happening on this board. Heaven forbid if we ever got a coach who could consistently beat up on Creighton, as we should.

 

[schuele]

If I was a Jaysker, I would post lots of pro-Miles propaganda. I can only assume that is happening on this board. Heaven forbid if we ever got a coach who could consistently beat up on Creighton, as we should.

If the new tax reform bill passes, I wonder if Miles can still claim Greg McDermott as a dependent?

 

[legomanyacts]

Thoughts

 

[stonesak]

Thoughts

Bill Moos is a smart man. Don't comment on a season until it's over.

 

[artguy68]

It is as if the only thing to talk about when it comes to Husker sports is firing or not firing coaches. NEW TOPIC, PLEASE!

 

[MikeRileyGBR]

I don’t follow Nebrasketball too closely but I like these standard “Miles should get another year” threads followed by the usual “Miles should have been fired last year” thread that’ll pop up shortly after in the following week

 

[huskerfan1414]

NCAA or bust,
Keep winnin

 

[meo1960]

Thoughts

Fire Miles!

We should have beaten Wisconsin by 20 at their place and playing 4 games in 8 days, or whatever it was, was an unfair advantage for us. We didn't have any rust to knock off like Wisc did. And just look at all the fouls called on us. That's the sign of a poorly coached team if ever I saw one. The B1G is really down this year and there's no excuse for us not winning a conference title this year.
Nope, it's title this year or Miles has to go and I'll drive the U-Haul. Winking

How'd I do? I learned all that just by reading these basketball threads.

 

[big red23]

It is just like Riley. The same people who wanted Riley to have another year now want Miles to have another year. It's just Sad. Miles has never done anything at Nebraska to justify he continues as the men's basketball coach.

Yep just like Riley... People like you need to be called out, and that is exactly what I am doing!

 

[schuele]

Posted this in the wrong thread, but I'll repeat here:

I thought Miles needed an upper-half finish in the conference this season to keep his job. Not the highest standard in the world, but one that seemed fair to all parties. He'll almost certainly get that done, and has a top 4 finish within reach. So good on Miles - he was on the hot seat and he and the team have responded. And by "responded" - I don't mean they were picked 13th and finished 11th. They're putting together a solid season.

 

[inWV]

NU is currently fourth in the B1G with a win over Michigan, the other 4 loss team in the league. They could get 5 of the next 6. For those who want to fire Miles, they will have to wait until next year.

 

[newAD]

Lets say, just for s***s and giggles, Nebraska makes the dance this year, actually wins a game, everyone on the roster stays, make the dance next year, win a game, maybe 2, that Miles might leave on his own? What if Nebraska gets there this year, wins a game, and say Palmer and/or Copeland decide to test the pro market? Does Miles look to go elsewhere if he has an opportunity? I'm not saying he will, just wondering.

If Miles is lucky enough that everyone stays to play next year, March/April of 2019 might be his best chance to ever move on if anyone comes calling.