Milton listed at 5-11, 177
Gebbia listed at 6-3, 185
I have a feeling he could put on 10 pounds by next year.
Scott Frost Physical?
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Milton listed at 5-11, 177
Gebbia listed at 6-3, 185
I have a feeling he could put on 10 pounds by next year.
Out of HS, Gebbia was listed as 6'3' 180lbs. Some similar sized duel threat QB's, coming out of HS:
Mackinzie Milton 5'11 160
Teddy Bridgewater was 6'2 180
Alex Smith 6'3 190
Marcus Mariota 6'4 190
There we go! No doubts left on the board, but let the best man start
Frost uses a 158 pound RB on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1's in shotgun every time and opts to leave his 245 pound monster Cordarrian Richardson (Mr. Football Tennessee) on his bench. You guys are gonna see a brand a football you've never seen before.
That's the truth. And Nebraska fans aren't exactly patient, trust the coach types, either.
I was 60/40 he stays before. Now I'm 10/90. I still don't believe his style of football will ultimately work at Nebraska along with recruiting there. I think he takes Nebraska to 7-5 and maybe 8-4 but that's it.
Hope you are wrong about his future record here. Obviously. I have higher hopes.
Good luck in your coaching search.
Oh, and for what it is worth, I think it is easier to recruit to Nebraska than people think.
Winning here isn't as hard as Riley made it look. Pelini was an average coach and won 9-10 games a year, for 7 years in a row, using a no-huddle, zone read offense. Recruiting here also isn't as tough as you guys like to think. We consistently have a national recruiting ranking in the 20's, have a big influence in KC, STL, Denver, etc and recruit Texas, California and Florida. It takes time and travel, but the brand still attracts recruits. I, personally, love the idea of Frost's offense in the B1G. We need to get teams like Wisconsin, Iowa and Minnesota in a track meet and stop playing their game. Good luck moving forward, you guys are loaded with young players and should attract some good HC candidates.
It's my humble opinion that Frost is making a mistake leaving UCF for Nebraska for ONE reason; his style of play/recruiting. Would I personally leave for my alma mater if I was a championship QB there? Yes, I would. Although, I'd be making a mistake too.
UCF is 2-5 years away from P5 in my opinion. It's upside is larger than TCU, Boise St, etc etc. It has the #1 largest student population in the US. It's located in Central Florida, the recruiting hub of the US. It's a top 20 TV market (#1 in US city-Orlando that doesn't have an NFL team). It has better facilities than UF, FSU, and Miami already.
The ONLY thing it does not have is a P5 title. Once it does get a P5 title, I truly believe UCF will be the most elite football school in Florida.
Therefore, with his style of athletes he can recruit there for the Chip Kelly offense, I think Frost is making a mistake in leaving. He could have 2-3 more undefeated seasons and usher in UCF football to P5 the way Bobby Bowden did at FSU.
I just don't see his style of play translating to Nebraska.
Either way, UCF went 13-1 and was #9 in the country in 2013 winning the Fiesta Bowl. We are 11-0, #12 in the country in 2017. We will be fine with whoever is coach; our QB is a soph. Our RBs are fresh and soph. 3 of our top 4 WRs are soph and fresh. Whoever our coach will be is inheriting a top 15 team.
Even though I don't think it will work out at NU, I wish you guys best of luck. At least you're not UF.
First thing we need to be physical and attaching and fundamentally sound on defense and stop the running games of Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota and NW
Not worry about SF producing offence we need to stop teams on defense and right now were dogs sh€££ on defense.
This is such a clueless discussion. Can the rest of the BIG be fast enough to keep up with Frost is the better question? BIG teams get wrecked by southeastern physicality. BIG also gets wrecked by spread offenses (duke beat NW by 30).
Football isn't physical anymore. There's targeting called every play. Football is about speed, stretching the field, throwing across the middle for targeting calls.
Lining up in shotgun on 3rd & 2 tells the other team they might run it here or they might throw deep. Lining up under center is not +ev. Football has evolved people.
Football isn't physical anymore. There's targeting called every play. Football is about speed, stretching the field, throwing across the middle for targeting calls.
Lining up in shotgun on 3rd & 2 tells the other team they might run it here or they might throw deep. Lining up under center is not +ev. Football has evolved people.
Disagree the B1G is a physical conference,on defense the teams that are more physical by stoping the run are the most successful teams that win in the B1G...
Maybe you just haven't noticed it because we have been terrible on defense for too many years.
Scott has some material to work with. That Ruder kid would be a fine commit as would Duggan, plus the whole Terry Wilson JUCO situation...we may well end up with 2 QBs and then Gebbia/POB. That's certainly a better situation than we had 3 years ago when it was TA and then nothing. Vedral may even transfer, we could have as many as 5 legit QB's next fall.
Florida is not the only state with small, fast guys. Nebraska doesn't have a ton of them, but they almost always have a couple of guys that are fast but undersized. This year it would be Sarbagh and Moses Bryant. So in any given 4 year period, you are going to have say half a dozen guys handling the ball on your roster that you didn't even leave town to secure, and then you still have the whole rest of the country that you are fishing out of.
NU is pretty good about importing talent, guys like Abdullah get turned down all the time in the SEC at RB because they aren't prototypical size and Frost won't have any hesitation about snapping them up and many of them accept because they don't want to be a backup DB in the South.
Its not like top tier talent won't come to NU from other places, Williamsx2 pretty well showed they can recruit more players than we can get legitimate touches to in a game. Including the nation's top athlete in Josh Moore.
Florida is not the only state with small, fast guys. Nebraska doesn't have a ton of them, but they almost always have a couple of guys that are fast but undersized. This year it would be Sarbagh and Moses Bryant. So in any given 4 year period, you are going to have say half a dozen guys handling the ball on your roster that you didn't even leave town to secure, and then you still have the whole rest of the country that you are fishing out of.
NU is pretty good about importing talent, guys like Abdullah get turned down all the time in the SEC at RB because they aren't prototypical size and Frost won't have any hesitation about snapping them up and many of them accept because they don't want to be a backup DB in the South.
Its not like top tier talent won't come to NU from other places, Williamsx2 pretty well showed they can recruit more players than we can get legitimate touches to in a game. Including the nation's top athlete in Josh Moore.
Maybe he will force the Big Ten to adjust their style of play? Remember when most of the teams in the Big 12 were running teams back in the day????
I disagree with the notion that you have to wear out a team to beat them. Giving maximum effort and focus on each play seems more important than rushing through plays just to make the other team "tired".
McKenzie Milton's are a dime a dozen. It's Scott Frosts system that allowed Milton to be successful.
And what Frost did at UCF this year was no fluke. He can still recruit speed here, but that talent is going to be even more polished because we can get players UCF can't.
He's not going to have a lot of time 17 days from Sunday to the first signing date...
Of course he still will have time after that what ever players haven't signed yet to convince them to get on board...
Heard now we may have room for 19 or 20 in this class.
Why would the stats get worse? He's going to be able to recruit much better players here, especially on the defensive end. I don't see any reason why both his offense and defense couldn't be even better here when the players are likely going to be in his system longer than they were at UCF.
It's not like we don't have any speed already on the roster. We have Lindsey and Spielman who were considered very fast coming out of high school. We probably have some speed demons buried somewhere on the roster that will get a chance to shine in Frost' s system. I don't see why Frost couldn't take a chance on a guy with elite speed who isn't getting a ton of offers right now.
Too be honest with you I'm more worried about our Recruiting offense linemen and Defense linemen not nessasary interior line but rush ends... Very evident we are lacking in these areas to win this division and conference.
On 3rd and 2 what I like to see is a coach who makes the 2 yards. I could give a crap how we get it but that we do. A lot of ways to skin a cat.
Chinanders 3-4 will fix the need for a 90s style rush end. They’ll be a bit stockier build
I remember when we entered the B1G, it was our speed that was going to turn the league upside down and be the difference maker. Then we get burned by the speed and power of Wisky and OSU, not to mention MSU and Iowa, they all made us look slow. Frosts system is not magic. Anyone who watches a minute of film knows what he is doing, these coaches are not idiots. There are no secrets. Football is still about running faster, hitting harder, tackling and outsmarting the other team. It has become more of a game of deception with the spread option. Spread out the other team, create a mismatch you hopefully can take advantage of. Option football has always been that way. The old option you had everyone in tight, now it is just the opposite. You don't need to pure brute force or power like teams formerly did, you need players who can move some mass quicker and get better angles on the D. We do want to be like Wisconsin who is strong and well disciplined. We also want to be like OSU with the combination of athleticism and speed. It isn't one or the other.
That being said, the D is where the true difference is going to be made. They have to be prepared to stop an O like Frost will run and an O like Wisconsin runs, Michigan, MSU and the rest. I am more concerned about what product we put on the field on the D side. Make all the excuses you want for UCF about the O being too fast and whatever else. You can't make those excuses or you will never get to an elite status. The D owns their stats, pure and simple. The other side of it is a fast pace O that can get out early tends to make a team one dimensional, so there is that.
That being said, the D is where the true difference is going to be made. They have to be prepared to stop an O like Frost will run and an O like Wisconsin runs, Michigan, MSU and the rest. I am more concerned about what product we put on the field on the D side. Make all the excuses you want for UCF about the O being too fast and whatever else. You can't make those excuses or you will never get to an elite status. The D owns their stats, pure and simple. The other side of it is a fast pace O that can get out early tends to make a team one dimensional, so there is that.
TruHusker, I've been saying the same thing, the first thing we need to fix is the defense the quicker we accomplish that the faster we will win the West..
Have confidence in Frost and his offense staff to put plenty of points on the board it's the defense that has along way to go by what we painfully witnessed this season.
Defense wins championships.
Have confidence in Frost and his offense staff to put plenty of points on the board it's the defense that has along way to go by what we painfully witnessed this season.
Defense wins championships.
bahaha I can assure you. It's the other way around. You can't get the players UCF has speed wise. I'm talking 4.2 guys. Wake me up when you do.
LOL, you don't have guys that run 4.2's. And we have some guys that can fly: Spielman, Lindsey, etc. Joshua Moore and more are on the way. Enjoy the Peach Bowl and stop being so butthurt.
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You're wrong. Breshard Perriman was the fastest man at the NFL combine. 4.24 and 4.27
Josh Robinson led NFL combine at 4.33
Adrian Killins is the fastest kid in college football right now.
Ask someone in the industry. Your speed doesn't compare at all to UCF's.
So you're saying Nebraska cant recruit better than UCF?
You are wrong. You claim to have multiple players running 4.2’s, but then use a player from 2015 as an example. There were two sub 4.3 times at last year’s combine, neither UCF guys. But you think you have multiple players on your roster faster than anyone at the combine? LOL. You may need to ask someone in the industry, because you seem pretty clueless.
Here is the link to last year’s combine.
http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers
The perfect QB fit, Adrian Martinez, is on campus visiting this weekend. Remains to be seen if he will commit or not. Supposed to be an early enrollee so he'd be here for this upcoming Spring practice if he decides to come.
Dude.....Adrian Killins and Mike Hughes on THIS year's team both ran 4.2 40's this season. Killins was the FASTEST kid in all Florida High Schools- state champ track. Hughes is projected to go 2nd-3rd round of this year's NFL draft- corner and PR.
You don't have UCF team speed. Not even close. Don't worry though....Frosty will start recruiting faster kids for you shortly.
Also #7 on there was Griffin, a 4.38 UCF guy. Don't really need to prove anything to you. I know what Florida speed looks like.
JD Spielman and Tyjon Lindsey might not be quite Killins fast but trust me, they are plenty fast!