So many scared kittens on this board

[Red_Symptoms]

Worried that we might lose some recruits because the AD is fired

You think recruits are going to make Riley a winner? That guy is a career .500 coach.

You think if we bring in a great new head coach those recruits won't be excited?

So maybe we lose a few. Long term, getting the right guy is more important than a few recruits.

You gotta grow some big balls and make big boy decisions sometimes. Kudos to the University for firing the guy that will be known as the guy who hired Mediocre Mike.

 

[MegaTronsBro]

Not sure why recruits would ever care about an AD for the most part. If Riley is on the hot seat, who replaces him? You can't just keep playing musical Coaches.

 

[Wasker77]

Not sure why recruits would ever care about an AD for the most part. If Riley is on the hot seat, who replaces him? You can't just keep playing musical Coaches.

So is your answer to just keep the status quo which translates to continue to have a bad team or be bold and FINALY hire a good coach?

 

[jflores]

I'm not that worried about recruits. If we won less than 8 games, we probably weren't holding the best ones anyway.

I actually kinda like the timing here, if you don't hire an AD till December, then you basically have committed to Riley for 2018.

If we're going to make a change on what looks to be a subpar season, we'll at least have the advantage of having a leadership team on the front end of the wave.

 

[NorthWillRiseAgain]

So is your answer to just keep the status quo which translates to continue to have a bad team or be bold and FINALY hire a good coach?

The status quo in nebraska IS firing coaches.

 

[rrthusker]

Worried that we might lose some recruits because the AD is fired

You think recruits are going to make Riley a winner? That guy is a career .500 coach.

You think if we bring in a great new head coach those recruits won't be excited?

So maybe we lose a few. Long term, getting the right guy is more important than a few recruits.

You gotta grow some big balls and make big boy decisions sometimes. Kudos to the University for firing the guy that will be known as the guy who hired Mediocre Mike.

Nobody moves forward by treading water.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

I'm not that worried about recruits. If we won less than 8 games, we probably weren't holding the best ones anyway.

I actually kinda like the timing here, if you don't hire an AD till December, then you basically have committed to Riley for 2018.

If we're going to make a change on what looks to be a subpar season, we'll at least have the advantage of having a leadership team on the front end of the wave.

But you don't think keeping Riley around for a lame duck 2018 will affect recruiting and how 2019 goes? I am not a fan of firing only the AD if the football program is the main reason he is getting fired. Looks to me like Eichorst is the sacrificial lamb. The optics are that Riley is now on the hot seat. If you don't have a new AD before December then you are keeping Riley for 2018. That means the 2018 recruiting class is going to suck. The new AD fires Riley November 2018 and gives the new coach two months to recruit for 2019 signing class. Now you have 2 empty recruting classes, a new coach and presumably 2 new systems.

If the 1-2 start and lack of confidence in Riley is why Eichorst was fired, then have some balls and fire Riley too. At least at that point you only have one empty recruiting class.

 

[Red_Symptoms]

The status quo in nebraska IS firing coaches.

From 1990 (After Bo Schembechler) Michigan went through 4 head coaches to get to Harbaugh, their 5th coach in 2015.

Since 1998 we've gone through 3 head coaches to get to Riley, our 4th in 2015.

Seems to me, we're right on pace with Michigan to get a winner with our 5th coach hopefully.

To make a statement that the "status quo" is firing coaches is a ridiculous statement. First off, few programs have the prestige and expectations we have. Second, the statement isn't even accurate, as we are no different than any other major power that is trying to get back to where they are (see Texas for another example).

If you can't make a difference within 3-5 years to at least compete for a conference title...bye bye

 

[jflores]

But you don't think keeping Riley around for a lame duck 2018 will affect recruiting and how 2019 goes? I am not a fan of firing only the AD if the football program is the main reason he is getting fired. Looks to me like Eichorst is the sacrificial lamb. The optics are that Riley is now on the hot seat. If you don't have a new AD before December then you are keeping Riley for 2018. That means the 2018 recruiting class is going to suck. The new AD fires Riley November 2018 and gives the new coach two months to recruit for 2019 signing class. Now you have 2 empty recruting classes, a new coach and presumably 2 new systems.

If the 1-2 start and lack of confidence in Riley is why Eichorst was fired, then have some balls and fire Riley too. At least at that point you only have one empty recruiting class.

In my view, Green has one very likely possibility, Riley wins 7 or less games. That alone will kill the class, and recruiting aside, will likely get him fired. So he has to plan on hiring a coach this fall most likely and killing just the one class. I don't see a large possibility of Riley going 500 and keeping his job with a "lost" class.

In the off chance we win 8 or 9 games, you *could* have a new AD and Riley moving forward more or less intact for 2018, but I don't know that anyone views this as a very likely scenario. If he did win 9 games, we save the class, and fire him next year if need be (killing the 2019 class instead of 18).

 

[Husker Sledge]

Yep, I'm all for firing Riley........then firing another guy in 4 years, then firing another 3 years after that. On and on and on we go! This is great!!!

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

In my view, Green has one very likely possibility, Riley wins 7 or less games. That alone will kill the class, and recruiting aside, will likely get him fired. So he has to plan on hiring a coach this fall most likely and killing just the one class. I don't see a large possibility of Riley going 500 and keeping his job with a "lost" class.

In the off chance we win 8 or 9 games, you *could* have a new AD and Riley moving forward more or less intact for 2018, but I don't know that anyone views this as a very likely scenario. If he did win 9 games, we save the class, and fire him next year if need be (killing the 2019 class instead of 18).

I guess. I just dislike the bull ****. If Eichorst was fired because of the football then fire the football coach too. sack up. Make Diaco interim and finish the season. At least at that point you can actively look for a replacement rather than sitting on your *** waiting and hoping for a guy to fail.

 

[Buicklife]

Worried that we might lose some recruits because the AD is fired

You think recruits are going to make Riley a winner? That guy is a career .500 coach.

You think if we bring in a great new head coach those recruits won't be excited?

So maybe we lose a few. Long term, getting the right guy is more important than a few recruits.

You gotta grow some big balls and make big boy decisions sometimes. Kudos to the University for firing the guy that will be known as the guy who hired Mediocre Mike.

I'm not so worried about the recruiting class ..... I'm worried mistakes are about to be repeated.

 

[big red23]

Nobody moves forward by treading water.

This is true, however we've been swimming to the ****** end of the lake since Solich. Timing was terrible here no doubt about it!

 

[rrthusker]

This is true, however we've been swimming to the ****** end of the lake since Solich. Timing was terrible here no doubt about it!

We can agree to disagree about the timing. The sooner we get the right AD on campus the better we will be.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

I am worried that TrueHuskerFan might now longer love the Huskers...

 

[SnohomishRed]

Eichorst was fired because the teams in the AD suck its not just football, although football by far is the most important. This guy is a bean counter when the conference is swimming in money. It was the right call, from Riley's standpoint certainly this puts him on the hot seat but he will get the season to turn it around. He is already on the hot seat anyhow and his recruiting class is already going to be fair game to other schools tactics so nothing has changed except his boss

 

[CC_Lemming]

It sure does take a lot of balls to point the finger and spend millions of dollars that aren't yours from a bottomless coffer. I don't know what could take more balls.

 

[jrhuskerdad_rivals491985]

From 1990 (After Bo Schembechler) Michigan went through 4 head coaches to get to Harbaugh, their 5th coach in 2015.

Since 1998 we've gone through 3 head coaches to get to Riley, our 4th in 2015.

Seems to me, we're right on pace with Michigan to get a winner with our 5th coach hopefully.

To make a statement that the "status quo" is firing coaches is a ridiculous statement. First off, few programs have the prestige and expectations we have. Second, the statement isn't even accurate, as we are no different than any other major power that is trying to get back to where they are (see Texas for another example).

If you can't make a difference within 3-5 years to at least compete for a conference title...bye bye

Didn't Michigan share a MNC in 1997?

 

[BadgerGrove]

From 1990 (After Bo Schembechler) Michigan went through 4 head coaches to get to Harbaugh, their 5th coach in 2015.

Since 1998 we've gone through 3 head coaches to get to Riley, our 4th in 2015.

Seems to me, we're right on pace with Michigan to get a winner with our 5th coach hopefully.

To make a statement that the "status quo" is firing coaches is a ridiculous statement. First off, few programs have the prestige and expectations we have. Second, the statement isn't even accurate, as we are no different than any other major power that is trying to get back to where they are (see Texas for another example).

If you can't make a difference within 3-5 years to at least compete for a conference title...bye bye

They did have a coach named Lloyd Carr during that time frame who was revered and successful.

 

[inWV]

Riley has recruited QBs to fit his system. Say Frosty was hired. Of our three QBs, which one could competently operate a Frost offense? Gebbia?

 

[NorthWillRiseAgain]

From 1990 (After Bo Schembechler) Michigan went through 4 head coaches to get to Harbaugh, their 5th coach in 2015.

Since 1998 we've gone through 3 head coaches to get to Riley, our 4th in 2015.

Seems to me, we're right on pace with Michigan to get a winner with our 5th coach hopefully.

To make a statement that the "status quo" is firing coaches is a ridiculous statement. First off, few programs have the prestige and expectations we have. Second, the statement isn't even accurate, as we are no different than any other major power that is trying to get back to where they are (see Texas for another example).

If you can't make a difference within 3-5 years to at least compete for a conference title...bye bye

Michigan won a "championship" in 1997, there's no magical 5 coach rule. Harbaugh also was a proven winner, an a+ hire which many here don't think Nebraska can find. I'm sure eventually nebraska will find that golden egg, but can you tell me who that'd be at this point?

Riley probably isn't the answer, but he could be the guy to get us to that person. You time it at the wrong time, and you end up in the hires since 2004 that Nebraska has had.

 

[inWV]

Participating in the coaching carousel can lead to the coach that takes you to the promised land (the Bobfather), or another spin on the carousel. Problem is that you generally don't know which is which.

 

[NorthWillRiseAgain]

Participating in the coaching carousel can lead to the coach that takes you to the promised land (the Bobfather), or another spin on the carousel. Problem is that you generally don't know which is which.

When your in rich recruiting land, it's much easier to find riders for the carousel too.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Michigan won a "championship" in 1997, there's no magical 5 coach rule. Harbaugh also was a proven winner, an a+ hire which many here don't think Nebraska can find. I'm sure eventually nebraska will find that golden egg, but can you tell me who that'd be at this point?

Riley probably isn't the answer, but he could be the guy to get us to that person. You time it at the wrong time, and you end up in the hires since 2004 that Nebraska has had.

this is more like Oklahoma that Michigan.

Gibbs
Schnellenburger
Blake
Stoops

We just have an extra miss. They got lucky with their 4th hire.

 

[NorthWillRiseAgain]

this is more like Oklahoma that Michigan.

Gibbs
Schnellenburger
Blake
Stoops

We just have an extra miss. They got lucky with their 4th hire.

I agree, I've always likened it to them. Problem is, it was also a shot in the dark there with Stoops. I just hope that luck hits here before we're Minnesota.

 

[SnohomishRed]

And their Stoops hire was an unproven DC - Yes that can happen here, do I expect to win a MNC in year 2 of course not. There is no reason however that with good coaching we can put a good product on the field quickly

What I saw in the press conference today was that the University wants to win, all the speed stops are off all the restrictions monetarily or otherwise are no longer a part of this.

It is not guaranteed for sure but I do believe this was a positive step

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

And their Stoops hire was an unproven DC - Yes that can happen here, do I expect to win a MNC in year 2 of course not. There is no reason however that with good coaching we can put a good product on the field quickly

What I saw in the press conference today was that the University wants to win, all the speed stops are off all the restrictions monetarily or otherwise are no longer a part of this.

It is not guaranteed for sure but I do believe this was a positive step

Again with the monetary restrictions. Throwing money at it doesn't make it better. People making $4 mil a year don't leave a comfortable job for $5mil a year at win 10 plus or your fired job. They do use the threat of a new job to get a raise though and put themselves at $5mil at a comfortable job.

 

[SnohomishRed]

Again with the monetary restrictions. Throwing money at it doesn't make it better. People making $4 mil a year don't leave a comfortable job for $5mil a year at win 10 plus or your fired job. They do use the threat of a new job to get a raise though and put themselves at $5mil at a comfortable job.

Again I do not think the whole budget is for the head football coach. There are assistants, other sports and a host of other potential things money can do including a strong cast of analysts. I do think we will be spending the money on the AD as opposed to gifting to students

 

[TheBeav815]

Not sure why recruits would ever care about an AD for the most part. If Riley is on the hot seat, who replaces him? You can't just keep playing musical Coaches.

What's the other choice, just continue to be an average football team forever because you're scared to start over?

That's like staying with a woman who makes you miserable because you're afraid to be single.

 

[inWV]

Again with the monetary restrictions. Throwing money at it doesn't make it better. People making $4 mil a year don't leave a comfortable job for $5mil a year at win 10 plus or your fired job. They do use the threat of a new job to get a raise though and put themselves at $5mil at a comfortable job.

Not sure why some people don't get this concept.

 

[Headcard]

Riley has recruited QBs to fit his system. Say Frosty was hired. Of our three QBs, which one could competently operate a Frost offense? Gebbia?

Gebbia or POB would do great. Look at Herbert at Oregon, Mayfield at OU. They aren't exactly RGIII and they do a great job in similar offenses.

 

[Blackshirt30]

We can agree to disagree about the timing. The sooner we get the right AD on campus the better we will be.

I agree 100%...especially with an early signing day. Unless a miracle run happens, Riley will be done after this season. He will have to be replace ASAP so the new HC can get some of his recruits in here before the December signing day.

 

[Blackshirt30]

Riley has recruited QBs to fit his system. Say Frosty was hired. Of our three QBs, which one could competently operate a Frost offense? Gebbia?

Gebbia for sure.

 

[regibson1]

I guess. I just dislike the bull ****. If Eichorst was fired because of the football then fire the football coach too. sack up. Make Diaco interim and finish the season. At least at that point you can actively look for a replacement rather than sitting on your *** waiting and hoping for a guy to fail.

For all we know this could happen after Saturday's game. If it did, I don't think that Diaco would become the interim coach.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

For all we know this could happen after Saturday's game. If it did, I don't think that Diaco would become the interim coach.

Somebody would have to

 

[inWV]

For all we know this could happen after Saturday's game. If it did, I don't think that Diaco would become the interim coach.

If Riley gets run in season or after, the Diaco departure will likely be a disappointing result. I would like to see what he could do with these players.

 

[bmguy88]

If the AD comes in and feels it necessary to replace the head football coach, there better be a in-depth search of talent that can come in and win. We desperately need an AD who can attract and hire the best of the best, if not we will be in the same spot we are today in 3-4 years. The trend of ****** AD's hiring mediocre coaches that fail to meet goals must come to an end.

 

[HuskerHusaria]

Worried that we might lose some recruits because the AD is fired

You think recruits are going to make Riley a winner? That guy is a career .500 coach.

You think if we bring in a great new head coach those recruits won't be excited?

So maybe we lose a few. Long term, getting the right guy is more important than a few recruits.

You gotta grow some big balls and make big boy decisions sometimes. Kudos to the University for firing the guy that will be known as the guy who hired Mediocre Mike.

I'll remember him as "the assassin who got assassinated".

 

[Wasker77]

To be a good coach does not mean just to coach the kids well. A good coach has to be a good recruiter, too. Therefore I am not worried about losing recruits. If the Huskers hire a good coach everything else will fall in line. That "if" is a doozey. Every team has their down time. Nebraska is no different. I just hope the next hire (Riley is gone) will come only after lots of thought has been put into it. (and not another 60 plus year old coach who was on the hot seat at another school, Les Miles).

I think Eichorst was fired because he was Big Ten first (Barry Alvarez's influence), the snafu over not playing on Black Friday in the future, how he handled the Tim Miles situation at the end of last season and the results of his biggest hire, Mike Riley.

Living here in the Northwest I've been telling you guys since the start of the Mike Riley era that he was being forced out at Corvallis and was thrown a lifeline by Eichorst. And for more money, too. I have also written dozens of times that it was only a matter of time before Riley was back at his home on the Oregon coast counting his rather large treasure chest of Nebraska dollars. It is looking more and more like I had a crystal ball (Or maybe it was because it was pretty obvious hiring a 61 year old coach who only won .54% of his games was not going to work)

 

[Wasker77]

I agree, I've always likened it to them. Problem is, it was also a shot in the dark there with Stoops. I just hope that luck hits here before we're Minnesota.

I don't know how old you are but Bob Stoops was a pretty successful DC at K-State and then Florida. He could have been the head coach much earlier at a lesser school, but was patient. Waiting for the right offer. He pounced on the OU job when it came around. There was not much concern on whether he would succeed. He was that good of a coach.