Jason Whitlock is calling LeBron James a bigot

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johnson86-1

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It was absolutely a pr issue for the nba in China. That messaging was directed at the Chinese market. That message wasn’t directed at Americans. That was a beg and plea to China not to kick them out. Like when Trump compliments Putin. That’s aimed at Russia, not America and it serves a strategic purpose.
I don't know, but I doubt that the NBA or NIKE was worried about the Chinese public. I suspect that they were worried about their relationship with the Chinese government. But maybe the Chinese public is more nationalist than I realize.
 

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Blake had “unverified” arrest records and a “unverified” arrest warrant for criminal trespass, domestic abuse and third degree sexual assault...
 

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They don't want to wait until the full story comes out. They want to get out in front and claim that it's all about race to further divide the country. They want it to be about race so that the looters and rioters can burn down cities and assault law enforcement and innocent people while doing so

Social media has played a large role in this too. Social media is one of the worst things that's happened to us as a society. It drives a lot of the division.
 

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Something no one wants to talk about is the fact that our police face an armed citizenry. That is not the norm in most developed countries.
 

mstateglfr

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Is bigot the correct word?

I saw James stumble thru his ramble during the post game on-court interview and never thought it was bigoted. I felt it was ignorant and I eloquent, but I didn't think of bigoted.
 

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Titling the article, “Lebron James is a bigot” is far right, not disagreeing with his point. Just as is saying Trump is a white supremacist. This isn’t hard.

In 2005 Kanye said on air GB didn’t care about black people and the country gasped. That’s was incredibly controversial. 15 years later and that’s about as mild as it gets. If you don’t see the breakdown of rhetoric in this country you’re kidding yourself.

Ha ha ha ha ha, I had forgotten about this.
Mike Meyers was 17ing stunned when it happened. Ha ha, good stuff.
I cant believe I long for those days as they are better than the current climate.
 

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Something no one wants to talk about is the fact that our police face an armed citizenry. That is not the norm in most developed countries.
Bwahahaha. You should run for office...

Dear law abiding citizens, give up your rights so criminals might be more successful in their attempts to escape arrest.

Genius!
 

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Bwahahaha. You should run for office...

Dear law abiding citizens, give up your rights so criminals might be more successful in their attempts to escape arrest.

Genius!

You mean like the peaceful people that just tried to seal the door with concrete and burn police in the building alive?

That was not nice of the police to not die. They were being mean by getting out.
 
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Dawgg

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Few things are more cringe-worthy than coming to SPS and reading a debate about the expendability of a person of color with priors or what they should do if they don’t want to die.

Downvote away, bitches. I got no 17s to give.
 
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Few things are more cringe-worthy than coming to SPS and reading a debate about the expendability of a person of color with priors or what they should do if they don’t want to die.

Downvote away, bitches. I got no 17s to give.

You know what’s cringe-worthy? Cowards who criticize police for enforcing the laws that keep them safe. If a cop tells you to freeze and you decide to ignore him and reach in your car, you’ve just declared yourself expendable. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
 
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Titling the article, “Lebron James is a bigot” is far right, not disagreeing with his point. Just as is saying Trump is a white supremacist. This isn’t hard.

In 2005 Kanye said on air GB didn’t care about black people and the country gasped. That’s was incredibly controversial. 15 years later and that’s about as mild as it gets. If you don’t see the breakdown of rhetoric in this country you’re kidding yourself.
Kanye was right
 

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I’d like to read y’alls thoughts on to why southern cities have escaped 99% of this mob? What data can be interpreted through the docile nature of Dallas, Jackson, Nashville, Memphis, Jacksonville, Birmingham and New Orleans....amongst most others southern multi cultured areas?

Is it local leadership? State leadership? Why hasn’t the hate mob targeted Baton Rouge?
 

Bulldog Bruce

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Manners. Whether it is because religion is still important here or just the culture of southerners people in the south still teach their children manners.
 

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That is a sure fire truth, and the only thing I’d add is that it’s not limited to sports figures. I’d love to read a psychiatrist’s study on people making a boatload of money via acting, shooting a basketball, or modeling clothes, and then suddenly deciding that they have the entire world figured out.

You’re absolutely correct that it’s highly common, and it’s also nothing new
 

Dawgg

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You know what’s cringe-worthy? Cowards who criticize police for enforcing the laws that keep them safe. If a cop tells you to freeze and you decide to ignore him and reach in your car, you’ve just declared yourself expendable. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

I was born in the United States of America, a country founded on the idea that criticizing and questioning authority was not only acceptable, but necessary. You can 17 right off with that blind subservience ****. If you want to give up your rights under the veil of “keeping us safe”, you can go to North Korea or Russia or any other despot-ruled nation who uses those same lines to enact authoritarian measures.

And “play stupid games, win stupid prizes” when talking about a man being shot in front of his children is just the type of cringe-worthy comment I’m talking about.
 

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It’s a fair question. If we’re to base it mostly on the word referring to someone who is intolerant of other opinions, that‘s not quite how I see LeBron. I see LeBron as being someone that is too lazy to make any attempt to even listen to other opinions, much less understand them.

I do think there a difference, and considering LeBron’s position with tens of millions of social media followers around the world, I find his lazy approach to actually be worse than being an actual bigot.
 

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Perhaps that's it. But, I'd really like to hear from someone who has lived both north of the Mason Dixon line and in the South. Maybe that's you Bruce, I don't know. I've always felt while the South is painted as a Racial Dystopia it is much more integrated than the North. As in we all grew up together, having different experiences of course, but still in the same schools, churches, neighborhoods, localities (malls, the cruising strip, etc.) jobs, et al, relatively speaking.

I fully admit I could be way, way off here.
 

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One of those "more cringe-worthy" things is little dip **** attention whores like yourself coming on here with absolutely moronic takes to draw attention to yourself.
 

Lettucexxxx

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Manners. Whether it is because religion is still important here or just the culture of southerners people in the south still teach their children manners.

I also think we have a mutual respect here that the north does not. We mingle more rurally in the south, making it a more personal experience. Lots of 1 to 2 person encounters. This leads to being familiar with your neighbor.....which leads to comfortability....which leads to respect.

Which leads to knowing someone’s name and likenesses....which leads to more love.

It’s easier to hate a nameless face. In the south, it seems, everyone has a name. Everyone has a face.
Accountability. Pride. Religion. Space. = Southern Culture.

We would kill a lot of the division if we destroyed social media.
 

thatsbaseball

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So preferring that a criminal thug gets shot rather than a policeman doing his job is "authoritarian" ? You are an absolute idiot.
 

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I was born in the United States of America, a country founded on the idea that criticizing and questioning authority was not only acceptable, but necessary. You can 17 right off with that blind subservience ****. If you want to give up your rights under the veil of “keeping us safe”, you can go to North Korea or Russia or any other despot-ruled nation who uses those same lines to enact authoritarian measures.

And “play stupid games, win stupid prizes” when talking about a man being shot in front of his children is just the type of cringe-worthy comment I’m talking about.


Great post. These anti-American bootlicking thugs are all too happy to wipe out the 4th, 5th, and 14th Amendments. Makes you wonder which other parts of the Constitution they want to dispense with.
 

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I’m not bashing your opinion, just asking a question... if an armed man of any race breaks into your house with your family there, and the police arrive, will you be ok with him “questioning authority” as the cops try to handle the situation?

I’m just pointing out that failing to comply with police in tense, oftentimes highly dangerous situations is very different than questioning a senator or CEO’s decision. It has never been and likely never will be optional
 

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Now enforcing our laws is anti-American ? Sounds like you need to look for another country.
 

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So I’ve spent the last 16 years working for a company based out of a combination of Minneapolis and Cleveland, and while I’ve physically spent most of my time in the South, 90% of the people that I’ve worked with during that time are either north of the Mason Dixon line or else over on the west coast.

Anyway, one of the reasons that I’ve stuck with the company for so long is that I can sit here and honestly say that we seem to always hire good people. That said, I’ve seen very different career and personality trends depending upon whether people are working in one of our Southern plants or a Northern plant/office. Down here, turnover is slow, people’s careers progress within a single facility, and I’m working with a lot of the same people that were here when I signed up in 2004. Up north, people are constantly moving, roles change every 6 months, and there is literally no one in our Minneapolis HQ of 350 people that was there when I first came on board.

I bring all this seemingly random stuff up because I think in the South, regardless of race/creed, there has always been a deeply ingrained “reap what you sow” education from parents. You want riches, you better work hard. You got a black eye for running your mouth? You earned it. Someone stole your lunch money? Get it back. I just didn’t grow up hearing all this “the world’s out to get me” kinda talk. With several of my northern co-workers on the other hand(and I’m talking about the white ones), it’s just different... “I’m not being utilized effectively”, people working for 5 companies in 5 years, “I didn’t get job XYZ because of discrimination”.

I’m not trying to say all northerners are jerks and all southerners are perfect women/gentlemen by any stretch, but I’ve definitely witnessed a very different set of outlooks regarding accountability over the years, and I think that plays a part. As our boy JoMo said many times, we tend to point the thumb. A lot of these others are just looking for who to blame next
 

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He didn't run PR for the NBA. It wasn't a PR issue for the NBA. The issue for the NBA was managing their relationship with Nike and China. He literally ran PR for China because China was catching flak for its treatment of Hong Kong. He ran PR for China because it furthered his business interests. When he is worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

How much business does your company do with China?

Would you speak out against the companies largest client as a company spokesman?

Or would you toe the company line?
 

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I don't know, but I doubt that the NBA or NIKE was worried about the Chinese public. I suspect that they were worried about their relationship with the Chinese government. But maybe the Chinese public is more nationalist than I realize.

You are not that stupid or ignorant to "not know how nationalistic the Chinese people are"

But you are known to just make up lies when you back yourself in a hole with a dumb argument.
 

johnson86-1

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Great post. These anti-American bootlicking thugs are all too happy to wipe out the 4th, 5th, and 14th Amendments. Makes you wonder which other parts of the Constitution they want to dispense with.

This is idiotic. The 4th, 5th, and 14th amendment have never provided that it is unconstitutional to arrest someone. Even if you are being wrongfully arrested, the neither the law nor the constitution provides you the right to use force against police, nor do they provide that if you are in the process of being arrested, and refuse to comply, physically resist arrest, and then reach for something out of the cops view, that the cops have to wait to see if you are pulling a gun to shoot.

This is basically the exact same situation as the incident (in Pennsylvania, I think?) whose video made the rounds a month or so ago. Police tried to arrest, tried to subdue with physical force, tried to use taser, and then the arrestee reached for something in his car. The only difference is in this situation it was the arrestee that was shot rather than the policemen, because this policeman didn't wait for the arrestee to shoot first. I kind of find it hard to fault him for that.

ETA: the video of the incident, and it was in Pennsylvania:

https://www.facebook.com/AshleighBanfield/videos/533147153809829
 
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dorndawg

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This is idiotic. The 4th, 5th, and 14th amendment have never provided that it is unconstitutional to arrest someone. Even if you are being wrongfully arrested, the neither the law nor the constitution provides you the right to use force against police, nor do they provide that if you are in the process of being arrested, and refuse to comply, physically resist arrest, and then reach for something out of the cops view, that the cops have to wait to see if you are pulling a gun to shoot.

This is basically the exact same situation as the incident (in Pennsylvania, I think?) whose video made the rounds a month or so ago. Police tried to arrest, tried to subdue with physical force, tried to use taser, and then the arrestee reached for something in his car. The only difference is in this situation it was the arrestee that was shot rather than the policemen, because this policeman didn't wait for the arrestee to shoot first. I kind of find it hard to fault him for that.

ETA: the video of the incident, and it was in Pennsylvania:

https://www.facebook.com/AshleighBanfield/videos/533147153809829


Did you take con law at trump university? Attempted murder is a pretty clear violation of due process.
 

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You know what’s cringe-worthy? Cowards who criticize police for enforcing the laws that keep them safe. If a cop tells you to freeze and you decide to ignore him and reach in your car, you’ve just declared yourself expendable. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


TIL that disobeying a police officer is a Capital Offense.

But killing black people in church gets you a hamburger https://abc7.com/dylann-roof-south-...g-emanuel-african-methodist-episcopal/801013/

And if it's over not wearing a mask, you get shot in the leg https://www.boston.com/news/crime/2...k-47-after-refusing-to-wear-a-mask-police-say
 

johnson86-1

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You are not that stupid or ignorant to "not know how nationalistic the Chinese people are"

But you are known to just make up lies when you back yourself in a hole with a dumb argument.

Ok, so tell me. How invested are the typical chinese buyer's in their government's domination of Hong Kong? Where do you find reliable data for that? I'm under the impression that it's not a great idea to be in China and be very vocal about how you disagree with the Communist party. Does the average potential NBA customer in China really care about Hong Kong?
 

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I lived in NY my first 18 years of life. Still have family there. The difference is the amount of people. When I came to MSU one of my first culture clashes was the standard greeting when meeting someone new. I would be in a group and we would meet some folks and the greeting generally went.

So where you from?
I am from Pearl.
Oh, I know someone from Pearl, Do you know Tom Smith?
Oh sure, he is a second cousin on my mothers side. (the worst case would be that he knew his people. There is like 1.5 degrees of separation between people in Mississippi)

When it came to me I would respond

I'm from New York.
Oh I know someone from New York, do you know John Jones?
I would then explain there were 12 million people in the greater New York area (at the time) and I absolutely did not know him.

This density doesn't mean people aren't nice its just that you don't have the time to acknowledge everyone you see during the day. You basically learn to ignore all that is happening around you.
 
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Not sure how much this has to do with it, but we don't seem to have a ton of entitled white brats from affluent families that are ready to burn **** down. To the extent that's part of it, that of course just raises the question of why we don't?

Maybe growing up in the south, those entitled brats are more likely to get their *** kicked when they act like jackasses in jr high and high school? Maybe our education system is not as corrupt and spends less time indoctrinating studenst at the JR High, High school, and college level? And the ones that do get indoctrinated, can't wait to leave the south to be with people more like them?

My second guess is that potential rioters and looters know that not only will people be armed, they will shoot, and if they ever stand trial, they'll be at least one if not a majority of jurors that would refuse to convict them?

Pretty much just shooting in the dark though on both those guesses.
 

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Now enforcing our laws is anti-American ? Sounds like you need to look for another country.

We have laws against using excessive force during an arrest and shooting unarmed civilians in the back seven times too so those citizens trying to make sure those laws are enforced would be by your definition acting very much American.
 
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