Wet Counties

Trojanbulldog19

All-American
Aug 25, 2014
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Just saw something where all MS counties will be wet by default starting 2021. They will have to vote to change it dry. Long overdue.
 

FQDawg

Senior
May 1, 2006
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Now if we could just get wine sales in grocery stores, we'll really be in good shape.
 

FreeDawg

All-Conference
Oct 6, 2010
4,117
1,121
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At this point I want to stay just because it creates local jobs and money. All package store owners live in MS. They spend money in MS. If we switch to grocery stores corporations now get that money. Piss on Kroger.
 

Rebeldude

Redshirt
Aug 22, 2012
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At least you can now buy wine from a winery and get it shipped to your local package store. They have to pay the state taxes on it and can charge you a fee, but it doesn't have to go through the state warehouse. Not sure on exact implementation date, but it passed and was or is expected to be signed by the Tot.
 

jb1020

Freshman
Jun 7, 2009
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It would put a lot of people out of business. for just a small added convenience to our daily lives. But damn Costco has some cheap booze.
 

Villagedawg

All-Conference
Nov 16, 2005
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Do we really think this would put liquor stores out of business?

Now if we could just get wine sales in grocery stores, we'll really be in good shape.

I am definitely not an expert, but I really don't see wine going to grocery putting liquor stores out of business. I don't think I've ever seen a liquor store go out of business for any reason.

ETA: What percentage of a liquor store's sales in in wine rather than liquor? I suspect the real reason we can't get this changed is that it would cut out the state and their absolute monopoly on liquor and wine prices and sales.
 
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johnson86-1

All-American
Aug 22, 2012
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At this point I want to stay just because it creates local jobs and money. All package store owners live in MS. They spend money in MS. If we switch to grocery stores corporations now get that money. Piss on Kroger.

You can make the same argument for why we shouldn't allow walmart, costco, etc.

The current set up is better for me personally, b/c selling in grocery stores will likely result in a more limited selection past the barefoot, yellowtail type wines just because of limited shelf space in existing stores. But I don't think it's reasonable to continue. They should, however, give a long lead time to give existing package store owners a chance to plan. It would be ****** to let them rely on the current set up for decades, sign long term leases, make investments, etc., and then yank it out from under them on 60 days notice. They should give at least a five year lead in time for it.
 

dorndawg

Heisman
Sep 10, 2012
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Can confirm, states with grocery wine sales still have liquor stores
 

CoastTrash

Senior
Aug 22, 2012
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Terrible article. Only thing that changes is now possession is legal in dry counties. Rankin County is still dry for sale of spirits. Until HB1087 it was technically illegal to buy wine in Jackson and bring it to your home in Flowood. Crazy how misguided that article is.



 

My Bru

Redshirt
Feb 7, 2020
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Terrible article. Only thing that changes is now possession is legal in dry counties. Rankin County is still dry for sale of spirits. Until HB1087 it was technically illegal to buy wine in Jackson and bring it to your home in Flowood. Crazy how misguided that article is.
Agreed. But at worst, it's a step forward.
 

Jeffreauxdawg

All-American
Dec 15, 2017
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Terrible article. Only thing that changes is now possession is legal in dry counties. Rankin County is still dry for sale of spirits. Until HB1087 it was technically illegal to buy wine in Jackson and bring it to your home in Flowood. Crazy how misguided that article is.




I see the Northeast Mississippi Meth Lobby is still strong. Been trying to take out Lee County for a long time.
 

CoastTrash

Senior
Aug 22, 2012
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Why does Rankin show dry? Even in the county, many gas stations (in the Rez area) sell beer.

Rankin is wet for beer but dry for wine/spirits. Of course, wine and spirits are sold "by-the-glass" in many Rankin restaurants that have resort status. However, you will not see a package store in Rankin County as that's not permissible. Last vote to comeout from dry county status for Rankin County (spirits) was in 2004. Maybe it's time for another vote.

https://www.facebook.com/RankinLiberty1/
 

johnson86-1

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Aug 22, 2012
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I am definitely not an expert, but I really don't see wine going to grocery putting liquor stores out of business. I don't think I've ever seen a liquor store go out of business for any reason.

ETA: What percentage of a liquor store's sales in in wine rather than liquor? I suspect the real reason we can't get this changed is that it would cut out the state and their absolute monopoly on liquor and wine prices and sales.

It would definitely put a lot of liquor stores out of business. It would definitely not put all of them out of business. Affluent and/or populous areas will be able to support both. In places that are neither, you might see a strategy of liquor stores similar to dollar generals, where they locate on the outskirts and try to pick up the business of people that don't want to run all the way into town for a grocery store (unless they allow gas stations to have a wine and liquor sales).
 

mcdawg22

Heisman
Sep 18, 2004
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Lot’s of liquor, a Naval Air Base, and 2 Air Force bases are key ingredients.
 

Bulldawg77

All-American
Dec 1, 2019
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In downtown Brandon it's open container. Walk across 80 with liquor or beer. Two restaurants and bars coming into area as well.
 

Villagedawg

All-Conference
Nov 16, 2005
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I believe what you are pointing out is a result of a different regulation. Not wine in grocery stores. If I'm not mistaken, Mississippi does not allow multiple licenses for liquor stores, or you would already see Wal Mart Liquor stores here.
 

BiscuitEater

Redshirt
Aug 29, 2009
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You can make the same argument for why we shouldn't allow walmart, costco, etc.

The current set up is better for me personally, b/c selling in grocery stores will likely result in a more limited selection past the barefoot, yellowtail type wines just because of limited shelf space in existing stores.

Wal*Mart here sells several $20-30 range wines and Costco sells many, $20-50 range.

Meanwhile, ABC stores are thriving. Local Beer sales are up over 20% thanks to Covid. Most grocery stores have good selection of wines and craft beer. Most have walk-in coolers.
 

johnson86-1

All-American
Aug 22, 2012
15,210
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Wal*Mart here sells several $20-30 range wines and Costco sells many, $20-50 range.

Meanwhile, ABC stores are thriving. Local Beer sales are up over 20% thanks to Covid. Most grocery stores have good selection of wines and craft beer. Most have walk-in coolers.

When did they start allowing wine in grocery stores? And what products did the grocery stores typically stop selling to make space for a good wine section?
 
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