Would this be the most palatable solution....

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You retire the current flag.

In the interim you use the state seal flag.

Put several flags on the ballot in November and let the people decide including the Stennis Flag, the magnolia flag, and the seal flag.
 

JungRebel

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No to the seal flag period. It is antagonistic to all non-Christians in this state. It shouldnt be that hard to design a sharp, innocuous flag.

We should play up the Hospitality State angle.
 

Bulldog from Birth

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I think that’s the best idea but I would just go flagless until November. No sense in having an interim flag.

You retire the current flag.

In the interim you use the state seal flag.

Put several flags on the ballot in November and let the people decide including the Stennis Flag, the magnolia flag, and the seal flag.
 

Go Budaw

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You retire the current flag.

In the interim you use the state seal flag.

Put several flags on the ballot in November and let the people decide including the Stennis Flag, the magnolia flag, and the seal flag.

It would be OK by me, although I have no strong opinions on the specific “best flag” for replacement. The interim flag and ballot flags can be decided later. The most important thing now is to retire the current one. I honestly don’t care if we have no flag at all between now and November....there is no reason why we can’t be flag-less for a little while as there isn’t really an urgent time table on picking the new one.
 

DoggieDaddy13

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Dude,
We Trust in God to keep us Hospitable. If our flag ain't pissin' somebody off, what the hell's the point??
 

MeridianDog

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I think that’s the best idea but I would just go flagless until November. No sense in having an interim flag.

BUT - how would the state survive without a flag until November? That kind of thinking would see it being OK to not have a flag until January or March, or that the state wouldn't crumble away in catastrophic failure if we had no flag at all. *******
 

mstateglfr

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No to the seal flag period. It is antagonistic to all non-Christians in this state. It shouldnt be that hard to design a sharp, innocuous flag.

We should play up the Hospitality State angle.

I just looked at it- why would I be antagonize by it?
...if I lived in MS, Im confident I would feel the same way I do now- nothing.
It has 'in god we trust'...is that the antagonistic part?

Maybe I should feel triggered, but I dont. Historically, thst saying is everywhere. Its just something thats best to accept and move on. I don't care if people put their trust in an invisible being that is all powerful and ever existing, as long as the people act well.

Funny that the words were added 6 years ago in an effort to defend religious freedom. That seems odd, but its perfectly mississippi.
https://web.archive.org/web/2014040.../documents/2014/pdf/SB/2600-2699/SB2681PS.pdf


Anyways, that saying has been on money, basically said in the pledge, etc. Its been found by courts to not be religious, but rather historic in nature.

There are just so many other things it seems like people should be antagonized by before this.
 

Drebin

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No to the seal flag period. It is antagonistic to all non-Christians in this state. It shouldnt be that hard to design a sharp, innocuous flag.

We should play up the Hospitality State angle.

Is paper money also antagonistic to non Christians in this state? Why do we always have to find a reason to be offended by something?
 

PineGroveBully

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Being offended is a religion to a small sector of this country, even if it’s being offended for someone else
 

JungRebel

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It's a motto that was adopted in 1956. It's hardly historic in that sense. It has appeared on money since around the Civil War. As I said the other day, I'm willing to compromise between that and our current flag, but 15 to 20 percent of this state doesnt trust in said god. It is illegal to this day in Mississippi to hold public office if you deny the existence of a supreme being. It's a stupid thing to put on the flag and seals on flags are ugly. Forgive me if having an opinion based on principles counts as triggered.
 

Shmuley

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I wonder what it would be like to be the only state that does not have a flag?
 

JungRebel

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Is it possible to have a contrary opinion about what should represent the state without being 'offended?' We just disagree. It's possible to point out something is antagonistic without being offended. I'm willing to compromise.
 

QuaoarsKing

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I'd prefer the Stennis flag or something even simpler, but I'll take In God We Trust (seal flag) over In Satan We Trust (confederate flag) any day if that's what it takes.
 

wpmusm

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Bitching about "In God we Trust" is so new atheistic and stupid to me. I prefer a wordless design, but it's not a deal-breaker. Anything is better than what we have now. Plus, Mississippi wouldn't be the first state with IGWT on our flag.
 

RocketDawg

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No to the seal flag period. It is antagonistic to all non-Christians in this state. It shouldnt be that hard to design a sharp, innocuous flag.

We should play up the Hospitality State angle.

Are you offended enough to turn down paper money and coins? Probably not.
 

AnonymousUser

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No to the seal flag period. It is antagonistic to all non-Christians in this state.


If some atheists get their parties all ruffled so what. This is still a majority Christian country. If it bothers someone that much then they can move somewhere else.
 

mstateglfr

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It's a motto that was adopted in 1956. It's hardly historic in that sense. It has appeared on money since around the Civil War. As I said the other day, I'm willing to compromise between that and our current flag, but 15 to 20 percent of this state doesnt trust in said god. It is illegal to this day in Mississippi to hold public office if you deny the existence of a supreme being. It's a stupid thing to put on the flag and seals on flags are ugly. Forgive me if having an opinion based on principles counts as triggered.


When I said its a historic term, I was referring to what I remember from a court case on the issue. I think the term was decided as OK because it isnt religious based, but rather historically based.

I agree its stupid to put on stuff.

No need to ask for forgiveness on having an opinion, and i didn't view your post as you being triggered.
 

JungRebel

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Its amusing to see how many people interpret a difference of opinion as offense. How about I replace 'is antagonistic to' with 'intentionally does not represent,' am I still triggered, offended, bitching etc.? Or do we then just have a difference of opinion? A flag with In God We Trust doesnt represent me. It doesnt offend me, I wont stop using paper money, I dont avoid believers; the phrase just doesnt represent me. It doesn't represent a lot of people. And again, if it comes down to that or the old flag I will consider that as, not a victory, but a win.
 
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GhostOfJackie

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It's a motto that was adopted in 1956. It's hardly historic in that sense. It has appeared on money since around the Civil War. As I said the other day, I'm willing to compromise between that and our current flag, but 15 to 20 percent of this state doesnt trust in said god. It is illegal to this day in Mississippi to hold public office if you deny the existence of a supreme being. It's a stupid thing to put on the flag and seals on flags are ugly. Forgive me if having an opinion based on principles counts as triggered.
Jesus Christ dude
 

CreekFishin

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All Others Pay Cash. I don't think IGWT on the flag is a big deal. Currency, other states use it.

I worry more about people's religious beliefs being codified a lot more than a motto.
 

msstatelp1

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If some atheists get their parties all ruffled so what. This is still a majority Christian country. If it bothers someone that much then they can move somewhere else.

Such a nice Christ like attitude. Wonder why less and less people are.attending church?
 
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bruiser.sixpack

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As a practicing Christian(not just in name only), I love to be antagonistic towards non-believers. I consider all Ole Miss Rebels non-believers, so they are an easy target. Jung is just a pawn in the Chess Game. I always felt like Satan was an Ole Miss Rebel!
 

GloryDawg

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Personally I think they should let Mississippians send in designs. Have a committee to chose top three or four. Have an election that allows everyone 12 years or older a chance to vote for the new one. Just my opinion.
 

tenureplan

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I'm all for "In God We Trust". We should make it a requirement for any flag choice. And our 5 resident Marxist downvoters can eat a dick.
 

bruiser.sixpack

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I'm all for "In God We Trust". We should make it a requirement for any flag choice. And our 5 resident Marxist downvoters can eat a dick.

Well, I cannot put it quite as eloquently as you did tenure, but I am in total agreement with the “In God We Trust!” And they can make GOD in humongous letters. That’ll put a burr in their saddle.
 

horshack.sixpack

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I’m not in favor. I don’t want the state in my churches business therefore I don’t want my church in the states business. I don’t believe a single soul will be saved because of the language on the flag. It’s more likely to push people away. I’m also skeptical that of all the Christian themed billboards likely not a single person has ever had a life changing experience because of one.
 

GhostOfJackie

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Well, I cannot put it quite as eloquently as you did tenure, but I am in total agreement with the “In God We Trust!” And they can make GOD in humongous letters. That’ll put a burr in their saddle.

A burr in whose saddle? We just changed the flag a few hours ago and we are already trying to stick it to to someone else?

I’m all for having in god we trust but not because I want to “stick it to” anybody. I happen to think that was just inserted to get the last few votes to change it anyway. I think making that a requirement is kind of stupid, and we should maybe just have that as one of the options.
 

mstateglfr

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As a practicing Christian(not just in name only), I love to be antagonistic towards non-believers. I consider all Ole Miss Rebels non-believers, so they are an easy target. Jung is just a pawn in the Chess Game. I always felt like Satan was an Ole Miss Rebel!

I could see this about you since you are a raging 17 stick with the comprehension and logic of a 6 year old.
 

Bullycon

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Of course In God We Trust must be on the flag. Mississippians aren't happy unless they are excluding some group of people. Not allowed to target blacks or gays anymore, so they'll settle for atheists.
 

L4Dawg

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No to the seal flag period. It is antagonistic to all non-Christians in this state. It shouldnt be that hard to design a sharp, innocuous flag.

We should play up the Hospitality State angle.

So when are you going to change your offensive handle, seriously.
 

EngDawg

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I’m not in favor. I don’t want the state in my churches business therefore I don’t want my church in the states business. I don’t believe a single soul will be saved because of the language on the flag. It’s more likely to push people away. I’m also skeptical that of all the Christian themed billboards likely not a single person has ever had a life changing experience because of one.
Somewhat agree with this, but it’s all a mute point because that language was needed to secure enough votes to get rid of the old flag.