Did you hear what Brett said. It is impossible to to compare Pat Tillman and Colin Kap. It's like comparing me an Brett. I never played quarterback.
Brett lost all my respect.
Brett lost all my respect.
Brett Farve
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Since this first post is confusing and says very little, here is some actual info.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.es...epernick-lauded-hero-pat-tillman?platform=amp
Farve said he could see Kap being viewed in a positive light for his impact off the field. He then said the only other guy he could think of who did a similar thing(sacrificed his football career for something bigger) is Tillman who is seen as a hero.
As usual, sixpack has slightly misinterpreted something just enough to get all bent out of shape.
Farve didn't say Kap is as heroic as Tillman or anything like that.
I swear- comparisons are just a potential landmine because do many people to misinterpret them.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.es...epernick-lauded-hero-pat-tillman?platform=amp
Farve said he could see Kap being viewed in a positive light for his impact off the field. He then said the only other guy he could think of who did a similar thing(sacrificed his football career for something bigger) is Tillman who is seen as a hero.
As usual, sixpack has slightly misinterpreted something just enough to get all bent out of shape.
Farve didn't say Kap is as heroic as Tillman or anything like that.
I swear- comparisons are just a potential landmine because do many people to misinterpret them.
I’m saying this. Colin Kap is no where near the hero Pat Tillman is and was.
If someone thinks so, you are a stupid POS. I might even consider meeting you behind the vet school.
If someone thinks so, you are a stupid POS. I might even consider meeting you behind the vet school.
He's repaid part of it. Supposed to repay all. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brett-favre-mississippi-welfare-scandal-repay/
Exactly. Farve isn't making some far fetched comparison when you allow yourself to think about how Kap is viewed by some.
I dont see myself viewing Kap as a hero 30 years from now, but i could see others viewing him in thst light.
If everything continues as is, I think Kap will be discussed as a public spark that helped light a movement, but then his handling the controversy will always be mentioned which will keep him from being viewed more highly.
I understand that people view Kaepernick as a hero and even though I don’t see it that way, others can certainly view things however they want.
That said, I just don’t see the Tillman comparison at all. Kap may have lost out on future earnings but banked $43 million in his NFL career and later signed a multi-million dollar deal with Nike for taking the stand that he’s taken. Pat Tillman walked away from the NFL and ended up dying in war.
One guy lost out on a few years of his career but is still making good money and may get another shot in the NFL, the other guy lost his life at 27 years old. I’m sorry, but those aren’t remotely the same things.
ETA: don’t have a problem with anybody viewing both guys in a positive light, just think it’s two incredibly different situations.
That said, I just don’t see the Tillman comparison at all. Kap may have lost out on future earnings but banked $43 million in his NFL career and later signed a multi-million dollar deal with Nike for taking the stand that he’s taken. Pat Tillman walked away from the NFL and ended up dying in war.
One guy lost out on a few years of his career but is still making good money and may get another shot in the NFL, the other guy lost his life at 27 years old. I’m sorry, but those aren’t remotely the same things.
ETA: don’t have a problem with anybody viewing both guys in a positive light, just think it’s two incredibly different situations.
They’d be extremely wrong. He didn’t sacrifice anything. He was just making a statement and eventually was cut. Who here thinks an NFL team who wants to win and make money wouldn’t offer him a position if he was good enough? Especially given that he could bring some positive SJW cred to their team.
No, I dont see him as a hero
I dont see him as a villain either though.
He is just a guy that had a stage and decided to send a message.
That message has been co-opted by others, corrupted by others, and confusing(by him at times).
I dont view his actions at the time or since then as heroic.
They’re not the same. I get what Brett was trying to say, but I disagree.
I would respect Kap a lot more, even though I disagree with his method of protest, if he hadn’t started it when he couldn’t beat out Blaine freakin’ Gabbert for the starting job.
I would respect Kap a lot more, even though I disagree with his method of protest, if he hadn’t started it when he couldn’t beat out Blaine freakin’ Gabbert for the starting job.
That’s what mother fixed for our Father’s Day lunch. I ate two for lunch then two more for supper from leftovers, so I ate enough for the both of us.
The closest Kap comes to a hero is if he orders a sub sandwich, but that’s just my opinion.
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Look, I think we agree here. I listen to espn radio all the time, and Kap is basically their martyr for social justice In a similar way Catholics see at Paul or Peter. I said I don’t agree because Kap was complete garbage on the field and I’m record as saying if he was good enough he would still be playing....BUT it’s pretty common to see him as a victim instead of the opportunistic willing victim that I think he plays. I interpret Brett to say some people see him as the victim. These are the same people that want to talk about impact on society and not completion percentage and qbr or basically any other performance measures. Kap was good for a couple of seasons then turned to trash when defenses figured him out. Brett was saying exactly that in much kinder language imo.
Clarification, Pat Tillman was killed by friendly fire after beginning to make it known he hated the war and was strongly against it. Felt betrayed by his country that we were fighting it and was considering coming out with those beliefs. I always like to add this to people who use Tillman as a propaganda piece to drum up patriotism.
I respect the hell outta Tillman for what he did, but every time he is mentioned it should be mentioned what his opinion was about that’s at after he joined it and got there.
I’ve searched through multiple articles since you posted this.
I don’t see anything saying abt “he hated the war” or. “He felt betrayed”.
I don’t see anything saying abt “he hated the war” or. “He felt betrayed”.
Even so, “died in Afghanistan” is a whole lot different than “unemployed for three years”.
Just for clarification, you now don't respect someone you used to respect because they have an opinion you disagree with?
It doesn't help him that he kinda went off the rails a bit all around the same time. I think that if he could have articulated the message without the crazy, it MIGHT have gone better for him?
He still ought to be proscuted for it. Let a healthcare provider do that with Medicaid and see what happens. It may take a while, but you lose your liscense, pay it back, and very probably go to jail. Because it's Brett he get to just pay it back without being charged.
Did you even read what Farve really said? All he said was that Kapernick could be looked at in a positive light and you somehow morphed it to hero which is what he called Tillman not Kap. My goodness you guys working hard to hate someone.
Hero. Does this word mean anything anymore?
Peaceful protest is one thing. To revere Fidel Castro and wear socks with pigs dressed as cops is another.
Peaceful protest is one thing. To revere Fidel Castro and wear socks with pigs dressed as cops is another.