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[My Bru]

Now provide some evidence for that?

Also provide some evidence on how what is going on right now is helping that one 17ing bit.

I cannot fix your problems or any other persons problems (black or white). I can help.

BUT IF YOU DONT TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITIES OF YOUR PROBLEMS YOU ARE DOOMED UNTIL YOU DO.

What you mean "evidence"?? Just reasons, bro

 

[Hump4Hoops]

No, "defunding the police" is supported either by lunatics

or people that are using that (terrible) slogan to push reforms and prioritizing budgets towards other community support programs instead of burdening the police with a bunch of situations they shouldn't be involved in (which is an idea I hadn't thought of, and doesn't sound too bad to me).

Something I have a huge problem with is the militarization of the police forces. As I understand it, a big part of why that happens is that it makes financial sense to equip them with military surplus - which may even be an issue with *under* funding in some places. I'm also opposed to awful police policies like no-knock raids that kill innocent people year after year.

Police training is also a problem. Read this if you want an interesting inside perspective of what that involves, and why cops seem unable or unwilling to hold each other accountable: https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard-cop-bb14d17bc759

 

[Drebin]

Learn to reply correctly and we can talk.

Your knowledge about how the mobile view works is about on par with your knowledge about everything else you comment on.

 

[SheltonChoked]

He lost me with Colin Kap and social injustice and the flag.

Stopped right there. Won’t watch again Bc it’s not true.

Then you'll never understand the issue because you don't care...

And that is the problem. Too many people don't care.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

 

[SheltonChoked]

Dorn, I'd like to hear an explanation of how the above post is "high-test casual racism."

Others have asked for an explanation too.

Are you going to explain it?

Do you legitimately need to be explained to you how blaming black people for slavery in America is racist?

 

[dog12]

It's not a grenade to lob; it's a factual description. It has long been a racist trope to suggest Black people are somehow equally culpable in their treatment in America.

What is "it?"

(The first "it," not the second "it.")

 

[My Bru]

or people that are using that (terrible) slogan to push reforms and prioritizing budgets towards other community support programs instead of burdening the police with a bunch of situations they shouldn't be involved in (which is an idea I hadn't thought of, and doesn't sound too bad to me).

Something I have a huge problem with is the militarization of the police forces. As I understand it, a big part of why that happens is that it makes financial sense to equip them with military surplus - which may even be an issue with *under* funding in some places. I'm also opposed to awful police policies like no-knock raids that kill innocent people year after year.

Police training is also a problem. Read this if you want an interesting inside perspective of what that involves, and why cops seem unable or unwilling to hold each other accountable: https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard-cop-bb14d17bc759

Thank you for at least saying this. Discussions can be built off of that, rather than the venom dorndawg spews.

Police work is dangerous and attracts adrenaline junkies and many times ex-military guys. It's not for the faint of heart. To me we need to pay them more if you want better performance.

 

[My Bru]

Then you'll never understand the issue because you don't care...

And that is the problem. Too many people don't care.

Wrong. He needs to respect the country first.

 

[My Bru]

In simplistic terms, it’s not abt racism. It’s abt the socioeconomic standing of black people as a group.

You hit the nail on the head here. This goes for every other disadvantaged group too.

 

[SheltonChoked]

Now provide some evidence for that?

Also provide some evidence on how what is going on right now is helping that one 17ing bit.

I cannot fix your problems or any other persons problems (black or white). I can help.

BUT IF YOU DONT TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITIES OF YOUR PROBLEMS YOU ARE DOOMED UNTIL YOU DO.

Read about the Tulsa massacre for what happens when black people "surpassed their education options and suddenly had more money and opportunity and changed their situation for the better."

White people killed them all and burned it to the ground. Then built a highway over it.

The evidence that this is helping? Really? Might want to look around some.

We are not asking for "you to fix anyone else's problems" We are asking for you to stop being the problem.

 

[dorndawg]

Do you legitimately need to be explained to you how blaming black people for slavery in America is racist?

Apparently.

 

[00Dawg]

Close. He ordered Bastogne to be held.

Arguably an even more pivotal decision. Getting to the end-goal ports was almost impossible, but a German drive that doesn't have Bastogne in its rear is going to have more success, potentially a lot more.

 

[dorndawg]

Good on them for the update. Don't you agree?

 

[Shamoan]

where does this end? do we demolish the grant library because USG owned a slave named William Jones in 1859?

 

[SheltonChoked]

Apparently.

I'm not sure how to explain the color "Red" to someone that cannot see, or Music to someone that cannot hear.

 

[SheltonChoked]

Wrong. He needs to respect the country first.

No, he doesn't.

Pain asked to hear their side. But he doesn't really.

It's an uncomfortable situation. I didn't like all of what he said either. It showed me ways in which I contribute to Systemic Racism

And that's the point. Now that I know, I can change. But remaining Ignorant because it hurts your feelings, makes you part of the problem.

 

[Bcash2]

To be fair, re: “defunding the police”, from what I can tell it almost always refers to giving less money to the department and more more to some other place. For example, I think in LA people are calling for 5% cut to the $3 billion dollar police budget. It doesn’t mean “give the cops no money”

 

[SheltonChoked]

He lost me with Colin Kap and social injustice and the flag.

Stopped right there. Won’t watch again Bc it’s not true.

Try this one.
https://youtu.be/CwiY4i8xWIc

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

or people that are using that (terrible) slogan to push reforms and prioritizing budgets towards other community support programs instead of burdening the police with a bunch of situations they shouldn't be involved in (which is an idea I hadn't thought of, and doesn't sound too bad to me).

Something I have a huge problem with is the militarization of the police forces. As I understand it, a big part of why that happens is that it makes financial sense to equip them with military surplus - which may even be an issue with *under* funding in some places. I'm also opposed to awful police policies like no-knock raids that kill innocent people year after year.

Police training is also a problem. Read this if you want an interesting inside perspective of what that involves, and why cops seem unable or unwilling to hold each other accountable: https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard-cop-bb14d17bc759

I agree, and I think almost everybody agrees, funding and increased police training seems to be the a good step forward.

On the no-knock raids, I would assume those are for targets that are considered armed and dangerous, and the element of surprise is essential in successful raids. Innocent people are killed in them ,though. It’s a high adrenaline situation. More training in those scenarios would help, I would hope.

 

[SheltonChoked]

To be fair, re: “defunding the police”, from what I can tell it almost always refers to giving less money to the department and more more to some other place. For example, I think in LA people are calling for 5% cut to the $3 billion dollar police budget. It doesn’t mean “give the cops no money”

And routing that money to areas the police currently do, but SHOULD be done by others...

The fire department, for instance, may be the ones to deal with drug-overdose calls. Mental health professionals could respond to distress calls more effectively. The money diverted from the police departments may then be allocated toward social and youth programs, health issues and job-creation efforts.

Just like this guy said in 2016
https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/07/11...e-asking-cops-to-do-too-much-in-this-country/

“We’re asking cops to do too much in this country” said Brown.
“Every societal failure, we put it off on the cops to solve” said Brown. He listed mental health, drug addiction, loose dogs, failing schools as problems the public expects ‘cops to solve.’

 

[My Bru]

No, he doesn't.

Pain asked to hear their side. But he doesn't really.

It's an uncomfortable situation. I didn't like all of what he said either. It showed me ways in which I contribute to Systemic Racism

And that's the point. Now that I know, I can change. But remaining Ignorant because it hurts your feelings, makes you part of the problem.

Disagreement all the way around. I'm not ignorant, I'm not part of this "problem".

The George Floyd was proof of one thing - that some cops killed George Floyd in a criminal way. It did not make me any more or less racist from where I was before that (which was 'not racist'). It did not represent anybody except those cops.

Back to the point - American citizens still need to respect America. The flag represents that. Until Kapernick does that, he will not be listened to by a large part of America.

 

[My Bru]

And routing that money to areas the police currently do, but SHOULD be done by others...



Just like this guy said in 2016
https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/07/11...e-asking-cops-to-do-too-much-in-this-country/

If this is really what you want, you guys have a strange way of asking for it (rioting).

 

[Bcash2]

Delete. Difficult to reply on mobile.

 

[My Bru]

Read about the Tulsa massacre for what happens when black people "surpassed their education options and suddenly had more money and opportunity and changed their situation for the better."

White people killed them all and burned it to the ground. Then built a highway over it.

The evidence that this is helping? Really? Might want to look around some.

We are not asking for "you to fix anyone else's problems" We are asking for you to stop being the problem.

This ain't 1921. And I'm not the problem.

 

[SheltonChoked]

This is the problem though. No one really wants to get to the root of the problem. Then once they actually have a good statement/thesis, no one wants to ask WHY.

In simplistic terms, it’s not abt racism. It’s abt the socioeconomic standing of black people as a group.

When asked why most people scream racism.

YOU CANT FIX RACISM. Some people are racist and some aren’t. Black, white, Hispanic, asian, etc.

Why are blacks committing more crimes than any other race in America? Bc the Majority are low income/poverty level.
Why are blacks mostly lower income? 2 things can be fixed by black people with very little help and even with systemic racism.

1. Don’t have children early and when you do make sure you are married. This is pretty much a statistical fact.

2. Graduate high school.

Why isn’t everyone starting with the low hanging fruit? The easy ****?

BC ITS NOT ABT HELPING BLACK PEOPLE.

Here is someone that will talk about the root of the problem...

 

[SheltonChoked]

If this is really what you want, you guys have a strange way of asking for it (rioting).

It worked....

And it's spelled protesting, but it seems it takes breaking **** to get you to pay attention.

 

[Phil Wenneck.sixpack]

The day that happens, my diploma will be mailed back in and all allegiances to MSU will be forfeited. Let the woke pick up the tab on my donations.

 

[SheltonChoked]

This ain't 1921. And I'm not the problem.

Yeah it's 2020, Show me where a similar neighborhood is now for Blacks, and yes you are

 

[SheltonChoked]

Disagreement all the way around. I'm not ignorant, I'm not part of this "problem".

The George Floyd was proof of one thing - that some cops killed George Floyd in a criminal way. It did not make me any more or less racist from where I was before that (which was 'not racist'). It did not represent anybody except those cops.

Back to the point - American citizens still need to respect America. The flag represents that. Until Kapernick does that, he will not be listened to by a large part of America.

I'm not calling you racist. I'm saying you don't care about Racism because it doesn't affect you personally. Which is the problem.

I'm glad you see Flags as symbols of something. Now do the Mississippi Flag. And Confederate Statues.

 

[My Bru]

I'm not calling you racist. I'm saying you don't care about Racism because it doesn't affect you personally. Which is the problem.

I'm glad you see Flags as symbols of something. Now do the Mississippi Flag. And Confederate Statues.

What do you want me to do? Just simply, "care". OK, assume I do. What now?

 

[My Bru]

It worked....

And it's spelled protesting, but it seems it takes breaking **** to get you to pay attention.

No, it takes breaking **** to convince me that ya'll are crazy. Beforehand, I only had you pegged as a misguided idealist who was mad about being picked on or something, because DAD!!!

 

[SheltonChoked]

What do you want me to do? Just simply, "care". OK, assume I do. What now?

Here is a list:

 

[thatsbaseball]

There are some very nice "black" neighborhoods around the Jackson area.

 

[SheltonChoked]

No, it takes breaking **** to convince me that ya'll are crazy. Beforehand, I only had you pegged as a misguided idealist who was mad about being picked on or something, because DAD!!!

Liar.

You ignored it, and blamed it on them being disrespectful, and inappropriate and ruining your enjoyment of sports....

Matter of fact, you still are going all those things...

 

[SheltonChoked]

There are some very nice "black" neighborhoods around the Jackson area.

Not in comparison to "Greenwood in Tulsa"....

 

[thatsbaseball]

How do you know ?

 

[My Bru]

Here is a list:

So I'm supposed to have a conversation where I subtly pretend I'm really racist because reasons? Sorry not gonna happen.

 

[My Bru]

Liar.

You ignored it, and blamed it on them being disrespectful, and inappropriate and ruining your enjoyment of sports....

Matter of fact, you still are going all those things...

I'm not a liar.

 

[Bcash2]

Now provide some evidence for that?

Are you asking for evidence of racist policies in the past that contributed to the current socioeconomic position of blacks in this country?

 

[Negative Waves]

Virtue signal on social media and pay no attention who's really causing racism

What do you want me to do? Just simply, "care". OK, assume I do. What now?

in this country.