Starkville board and mayor pass resolution

[WrapItDog]

probably a third of the people in the store not wearing masks

SPD is going to need more tasers**

 

[Shooter McGavin.sixpack]

 

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

It is a slope in that the argument is - 'well if this is dangerous and banned, then what about these other things that could be dangerous and also could be banned?'

I personally have a tough time seeing anything banned that only affects the individual. You want to mainline sugar and become diabetic? Dumb, but OK. That only affects the individual(we aren't going down the rabbit hole of Healthcare here).
If someone does something that affects others, its an issue. You want to get hammered off tequila and drive? Nope, not OK. That affects others outside the individual.

Apply that here- you want to spend hours around strangers then go to stores and unknowingly infect others? Nope, not OK. Wear a mask.


This isn't a restriction of movement, it isn't a violation of rights, its just an official no shoes no service law. That **** isn't sanitary and requiring masks is simply saying there is an expectation sanitary minimum that must be met since you are interacting with others.
Even if its for show and doesn't actually work, its an expectation to give a minimum amount of **** and try.

So I guess you are in favor of government mandated flu shots ?

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Not overreactionary.

 

[Mjoelner]

SPD is going to need more tasers**

I'm expecting this with a masked Donald Sutherland of course.

 

[Requiem For A Dawg]

This isn't a restriction of movement, it isn't a violation of rights, its just an official no shoes no service law. That **** isn't sanitary and requiring masks is simply saying there is an expectation sanitary minimum that must be met since you are interacting with others.
Even if its for show and doesn't actually work, its an expectation to give a minimum amount of **** and try.

Big difference here.

There isn’t a no shirt, no shoes, no service law. That is a decision that individual businesses make for their store.

We’re discussing a law forcing individual businesses to have their patrons wear masks whether they want to or not.

I have no problem with private businesses requiring patrons to wear masks in their store if they decide to.

I do have a problem with the government forcing this on a private business.

 

[mstateglfr]

Big difference here.

There isn’t a no shirt, no shoes, no service law. That is a decision that individual businesses make for their store.

We’re discussing a law forcing individual businesses to have their patrons wear masks whether they want to or not.

I have no problem with private businesses requiring patrons to wear masks in their store if they decide to.

I do have a problem with the government forcing this on a private business.

The no shirt no shoes is business based, yes. Thats why I called it an official no shoes no service law. Official in that its not just based on store opinion.

Yes I get there is a difference between the store setting the rule and 'big gvt' creating a law.

You say the government is forcing this on private business, but are they? It seems they are actually forcing this on consumers. They aren't holding the business liable in that a fine won't go to the business.
Maybe I misread the law.

 

[mstateglfr]

So I guess you are in favor of government mandated flu shots ?

I guess you are in favor of jumping to conclusions.
Its a jump...to conclusions mat!

 

[Dawgtini]

Got a bandanna? Cowboy up.

 

[campshelbydog842003]

Bingo. There's a common quote used by libertarians that says something like "the right to extend my arm ends at where your nose begins". I found a good article by libertarian author Walter Williams that discusses the problems with seat-belt laws vs. laws requiring cars to have working breaks.

https://www.deseret.com/2005/6/15/1...ry-seat-belt-use-saves-lives-but-it-s-immoral

And that’s all good if you have the means to ensure everyone has access to proper equipment like we do with cars and seatbelts. With masks, we are going to have people who can’t find regulation masks wearing makeshift ******** that gets damp and catches a bunch of germs and does more harm than good to the person wearing it. If you can’t provide people with the correct equipment to use then you can’t reasonably enforce a law making them wear said equipment.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

So when will we get to a point where no mask is needed? curve has been flattened, but the goalpost keep moving.

 

[The Peeper]

No. The mayor even said today you can pull your T-shirt up to cover your mouth and nose and that would work

 

[BELdog]

So when will we get to a point where no mask is needed? curve has been flattened, but the goalpost keep moving.

Hell, we might not be able to tell if the chick at Wal-Mart is a butter face ever again if some of these chicken ***** have things their way.

 

[Hugh's Burner Phone]

And that’s all good if you have the means to ensure everyone has access to proper equipment like we do with cars and seatbelts. With masks, we are going to have people who can’t find regulation masks wearing makeshift ******** that gets damp and catches a bunch of germs and does more harm than good to the person wearing it. If you can’t provide people with the correct equipment to use then you can’t reasonably enforce a law making them wear said equipment.

I see where you're coming from but there are plenty of examples of society doing the same thing a 1000 times a day. I'll use your car example. If your turn signal or brake lights went out you legally had to have those to drive, but it wasn't the govt.'s responsibility to provide those repairs to you. If you're coming home from the hospital with your new baby you legally have to have a carseat, but you were responsible for providing that yourself. The list goes on and on.

 

[campshelbydog842003]

I see where you're coming from but there are plenty of examples of society doing the same thing a 1000 times a day. I'll use your car example. If your turn signal or brake lights went out you legally had to have those to drive, but it wasn't the govt.'s responsibility to provide those repairs to you. If you're coming home from the hospital with your new baby you legally have to have a carseat, but you were responsible for providing that yourself. The list goes on and on.

All of that stuff is readily available for you to purchase. Masks are not right now. The ones that actually work don’t need to be consumed by the public because health care workers need them. The mayor is telling people to make their own. That’s BS.

 

[dawgstudent]

So every business needs a bouncer?

 

[jethreauxdawg]

So every business needs a bouncer?

Don’t worry, the government will be sending them around soon. It’s for your safety.

 

[Shamoan]

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[The Peeper]

You ever heard of Medicare and Medicaid? Do you have any idea how much money in MS goes into those 2 programs to fight obesity, smoking, alcohol abuse in MS? Those obese idiots "slamming down five big gulps and a box of Twinkie's for a morning snack" doesn't only hurt them as you say, its hurts your pocket book and mine daily.

 

[TNT.sixpack]

Memphis announced the same thing today. Will probably be required throughout most of the country

I'm going to Memphis Friday. what is the requirement exactly?

 

[paindonthurt_]

Maybe I’m overlooking it but what am I forced to do daily for the greater good?

I mean I obey traffic laws which is for the greater good but it’s also abt me.

What else am I missing?

 

[GloryDawg]

If there is a football season, I think there will be, and if they allow fans in the stands, which I think they will, all season ticket holders will probably receive cloth mask in the mail from the school. They will probably have some kind of Miss State logo on it.

 

[Tomdh3]

I'm going to Memphis Friday. what is the requirement exactly?

There is no requirement in Memphis. I am not sure why someone on here said that. There is apparently a proposal though.

 

[CoolDawg]

Vote was 5-2. Starkville has 7 wards, each represented by 1 alderman. Mayor only gets a vote if one alderman abstains and there is a tie vote among the other 6. I have a good idea why so many of you are attacking the Mayor, though.

I suspect the reason everyone is attacking the mayor is because she called a clandestine meeting of the Board of Alderman with the resolution to require masks already prepared for them for their consideration. This has nothing to do with public health. If so, masks would have been required a month or more ago. Sales tax revenues are way down, and no students so no DUI's; this is simply a way for the City to make a little money off of people that aren't wearing masks.

 

[hatfieldms]

At this point, I'm starting to think of masks like motorcycle helmets. We shouldn't have to legislate wearing them. You'd think people would have the sense and be thoughtful enough of others to wear them. But after a walk around my neighborhood, I'm beginning to think otherwise. Plus, it not like masks only work one way. If worn correctly, they can be personally protective.

You say you notice it while walking around the neighborhood. Why would people be wearing them while out walking around outside? Are your streets that crowded that you cannot stay more than six feet away while walking around?

 

[L4Dawg]

I saw a good simple analogy recently. If everyone walked around naked and some guy started uncontrollably peeing, those in the line of fire get wet. Now if you are wearing pants, a lot gets through, but some doesn't. If HE is wearing pants, he is the one who gets wet.

 

[VegasDawg13]

All of that stuff is readily available for you to purchase. Masks are not right now. The ones that actually work don’t need to be consumed by the public because health care workers need them. The mayor is telling people to make their own. That’s BS.

Not only that, but you also have 9 months to figure out the carseat situation, not 16 hours.

 

[goodknight]

Guess they could also pass a resolution on any clothing requirement the right for any reason! Not sure that’s stand up in court.

 

[Joe Schmedlap]

I can assure you that she does not have a husband with a mask selling business...

Frequents the “Y”, eh?

 

[DAWG61]

Maybe he's the husband

 

[Len2003]

“Those who would give up essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither Liberty nor safety”
Ben Franklin

Was he talking about the Rona?

 

[BELdog]

Was he talking about the Rona?

Na. He was talking about stuff much more dangerous than the bat flu.