The yo-yo is down again.. 88 new cases, 8 deaths.

Digging dog

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I would like to know the age range of those that have died in MS and how many had underlying health issues....
I’m thinking a whole lot of other issues are getting labeled as Covid death. Numbers of heart attacks, pneumonia, & flu deaths are surprisingly down.
 

Dawg1976

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I would like to know whether it is mainly older folks dying as well. Nothing to do with what you suggest as I am one of the older guys.
 

EagleDawg97

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My understanding is if you pass away and test positive for Covid, there is a good chance you get classified as a Covid death. Basically if they think Covid was a contributing factor you get put in that category.

If Mississippi’s data matches that of the rest of the country it will be 90% of Covid deaths are 60+ with preexisting conditions. Yes, younger healthier people are still dying from this, but it’s pretty rare.
 
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They do matter but the cause of death is important. Some of these deaths are labeled Covid19 deaths even when the patient died of a heart attack or other issues. What came first, the chicken or the egg?
 

Hump4Hoops

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I think it's actually the opposite

People that die with COVID19 symptoms without getting tested are not tested post-mortem, and don't count toward the statistics.
 
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Click the link and scroll down. lots of new info and breakdowns

So, 58 of the 67 deaths were over 60, I wonder how many of these people had underlying conditions? And no, I think all deaths matter, dip-****, I have a dad who is 80 that I'm worried about you %$%$.....The last part is for Humps4, not you Bigsheep...
 
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johnson86-1

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People that die with COVID19 symptoms without getting tested are not tested post-mortem, and don't count toward the statistics.

I think there's less of that happening now though. STill plenty of people not getting tested that have symptoms, but I think people with symptoms and in serious condition get tested to help guide treatment.

But then in places like New York, the number of people dying in their home has gone way up (like four times as many). Who knows how many of those are COVID related versus people who are scared to go to the hospital for early heart attack or stroke symptoms or whatever. Presumably more of the latter than the former, but surely some of the former also.
 

WutheringDawg

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For those that don't want to click

30-39 - 1 death
40-49 - 3 deaths
50-59 - 5 deaths
60-69 - 15 deaths
70-79 - 25 deaths
80-89 - 8 deaths
90+: - 9 deaths

Underlying conditions (kind of an estimate based on the way the data is presented)
No underlying conditions: 3 deaths
Hypertension: 21 deaths
Neurological/intellectual disability: 5 deaths
Immunocompromised: 11 deaths
Cardiovascular disease: 33 deaths
Lung Disease: 17 deaths
Diabetes: 28 deaths
Renal Disease: 12 deaths
Liver Disease: listed but no deaths
 

WutheringDawg

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If they die from Covid 19 then it should be counted as a virus death. Just like if someone with state 4 cancer dies in a car wreck on the way to treatment that would be an accident fatality. But I don't think they are attributed to virus mortality without a positive test from what I've seen.
 

Bucky Dog

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So yeah it seems like the mean age is trending in the mid 70’s range and I hear them say it’s diabetics whose blood sugars are out of control and generally are obese as well as having heart disease. I would guess that matches the graphs around seasonal flu deaths just as younger folks including infants can die of flu, just at a much less rate than those elderly and compromised.
 
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If they die from Covid 19 then it should be counted as a virus death. Just like if someone with state 4 cancer dies in a car wreck on the way to treatment that would be an accident fatality. But I don't think they are attributed to virus mortality without a positive test from what I've seen.
The point is, until now it would have coded as "complications related to cancer" or something similar if the patient had any other condition such as Influenza or pneumonia, and was too weak and debilitated to fight off the infection. But now everything is Covid 19.
 

RocketDawg

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Fauci or Dr Birx addressed that yesterday in the press conference. I beleive you are incorrect.
 

RocketDawg

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One statistic that gives pause and needs looking into is that a lot (maybe as many as 70%, from what I've heard) of the deaths are Blacks. And they make up only about 13-14% of the nation's population. Fauci and Birx are on top of that one to try to find the reason and hopefully fix it. I suspect it's tied to economics and education, as well as failure to follow distancing advice.
 

RocketDawg

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I wonder if the hypertension deaths are from untreated patients. In other words, are those who have high blood pressure considered "at risk"? I believe about 1/3 of Americans have high blood pressure.
 

deadheaddawg

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My understanding is if you pass away and test positive for Covid, there is a good chance you get classified as a Covid death. Basically if they think Covid was a contributing factor you get put in that category.

If Mississippi’s data matches that of the rest of the country it will be 90% of Covid deaths are 60+ with preexisting conditions. Yes, younger healthier people are still dying from this, but it’s pretty rare.

Not sure how MS is counting them, but some places, NYC for instance, is UNDER reporting the numbers. The opposite is happening there. The daily at home deaths have skyrocketed and ones with COVID symptoms are not being tested and counted. Its is some of both. Some places may be under reporting and some places are over reporting.
 

paindonthurt_

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This argument is so dumb.

If you don’t think age and health demographics fit into this discussion, you are dumb.

Conclusion: you are dumb.
 

L4Dawg

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One statistic that gives pause and needs looking into is that a lot (maybe as many as 70%, from what I've heard) of the deaths are Blacks. And they make up only about 13-14% of the nation's population. Fauci and Birx are on top of that one to try to find the reason and hopefully fix it. I suspect it's tied to economics and education, as well as failure to follow distancing advice.
That is almost certainly part of it, but African Americans are genetically more prone to hypertension and therefore all the other bad things that go with it. I learned that in physiology from the man who literally wrote the book on it back in the day.
 
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Thanks for letting me know. I haven’t been keeping up with the news lately since I’ve been working long hours.
 

Len2003

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The point is, until now it would have coded as "complications related to cancer" or something similar if the patient had any other condition such as Influenza or pneumonia, and was too weak and debilitated to fight off the infection. But now everything is Covid 19.

What is your source on this?
 

DeltaChicagoDog

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People that die with COVID19 symptoms without getting tested are not tested post-mortem, and don't count toward the statistics.

I know this to not be true, at least for the county I'm from in Mississippi. A close relative passed away Saturday before last. She was in her early 70's and exhibited all the symptoms including pneumonia and the overwhelming exhaustion that has been characteristic of covid19. The exhaustion was the most striking symptom because she'd always been incredibly buoyant, enthusiastic, and unwaveringly optimistic, all qualities that hadn't dimmed with age until she got sick a little over a month before passing. She tested negative for the flu and stubbornly refused to go to the hospital, despite her physician recommending her to do so on two occasions. Either way, a post mortem covid19 test had to be conducted before we could finalize any arrangements.
 
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