Arrogant Dak on Twitter...
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The sacks had a lot to do with the WR corps and Linehan. Dallas had the most predictable offense in NFL history.
On to the greater question.. should Dak get a top 10 contract... Let's look at facts:
1: Contracts are paid for future performance, not past... So Brees, Brady, Rivers, Big Ben, and Rodgers will all be retired in 5 years.. So they are not worth mentioning. For this purpose. Of course they are better. 3 of the 5 best ever are in that group.
2. Dak took a shitload of sacks last year. We can argue about why, but the biggest reason was the play calling/ beat up OL/ and **** WR seperation until Cooper showed up. These sacks killed his QBR, but he still finished the season ranked 17 in QBR. He was 4th in 2017 and 3rd in 2016. The Cowboys know they screwed him and have fixed it by trading for Cooper, firing the O-line coach in the middle of the season, and **** canning Linehan at the end of the year.. Even with the bad sack total last year, he averages 8th in QBR over his first 3 seasons. For a better look, check out this breakdown...
https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2019/6/11/18658454/ranking-nfl-qbs-by-total-qbr-tells-us-more-about-what-the-cowboys-should-pay-dak-prescott
3. Lets take Wentz, Goff, and Mahomes and put them in Scott Linehan's offense for the last 3 years. ( Look at Goff as a rookie under a similar offense before McVay.) Now put Dak under McVay, Andy Reid, or Peterson's offense that is so good you can win a Superbowl with Nick Foles.. Notice Linehan is still unemployed. The fact is Dak has put up middle to upper tier numbers, even though other teams new what was coming.
4. Intangibles matter.
5. Did I mention what happened when they finally got Dak a legit receiver last year... Even with Linehan's **** play calling? Player A is Dak after Cooper, Player B is Brady en route to the Superbowl during the same time period.
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Is it homerism for me to want Dak to get paid as much as the market will permit?
You expressly said, "I hope Dak doesn't get paid like a top 10 QB." That's a ****** thing for a Mississippi State fan to say, in my opinion.
So paid like a #6 would now be okay with you? He must’ve shown you a lot since a few hours ago when you deemed him unworthy of top ten money.
You saying he isn't a top 10 QB is one thing, but as a State fan, to say "I hope Dak doesn't get paid like a top 10 QB bc he's not one", is dumb. Any State player that does well in the NFL, or pro sports in general, and gets paid handsomely for doing it helps our school/program. You do realize that, no?
I don't want to make a bet against former MSU players and certainly not Dak. You people act like I hate him or something.
I agree my original wording was poor. He should be paid like a top 10 QB. I should have said he shouldn't get paid like a top 5 QB in my OP. I do think there's 10 NFL QBs who are at least as good as him RIGHT NOW. When it comes to how much his contract would be, it isn't as cut and dry like I thought where you have older players with the mega contracts expiring in a few years.
The more the convo went on I started looking at the contracts and realized you can't really make a good apples to apples comparisons to players like Rogers and Big Ben because their future value is falling considerably and you have to take them out of the equation like you said. I started making a chart earlier, but stopped fairly quickly because of this factor. Lots of the bigger contracts start rolling off in 2022-2023 and those guys certainly won't be the highest paid QBs and will start going year to year or 2 year contracts like Brady and Brees.
My original post about "not being paid like a top 10" was off. I'll admit that. When you start looking at the actual contracts of the highest paid QBs RIGHT NOW, it makes more sense about where he should fall on his next contract.
2-3 years out, Dak's contract, assuming he continues to progress like he has, should put him in that 4-7 range of highest paid QBs IMO.
2-3 years out, Dak's contract, assuming he continues to progress like he has, should put him in that 4-7 range of highest paid QBs IMO.
It is just where he falls on the new contract scale. When the best quarterbacks renew their contracts they will be above him and his money won’t look out of line. He is on par with Wentz and Goff and should get paid like them.
He should get paid like them, but I think they've shown they are better QBs at this point. Sure, they have better pass protections and LA certainly has better WR, but they did win a Super Bowl too.
Goff hits a lot of deep balls. Hopefully Dak proves he can do that a lot more this year with better WR.
I think Dak is right behind those guys, so basically right outside the top 5 in terms of getting paid at the QB position.
I remember Big Ben's first cpl years when they barely let him throw it. Off the top of my head I think he completed 9 throws in the SB win over the Seahawks. And Brady was t exactly slinging it his first cpl years. The kicker had as much impact in winning those first cpl Super Bowls.
A Russell Wilson vs Dak comparison first 3 years.
A lot of guys sit on the bench for a year or two. Dak got thrown into the fire. He's still learning.
I suspect when you compare Dak to other QBs first 3 years he will measure up OK.
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A lot of guys sit on the bench for a year or two. Dak got thrown into the fire. He's still learning.
I suspect when you compare Dak to other QBs first 3 years he will measure up OK.
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A. Anyone who would suggest the line was good last year obviously skipped the DAL @ ATL game. Go back and watch it and you’ll see how much of a sieve it was.
B. So Dak isn’t as good as Tom Brady? Man that’s some cutting edge analysis.
Dak is very good. My gestalt feeling is that he ranks somewhere just outside the top 10 QB's in the NFL. I want to see him get paid! He will, too. The Dallas front office may want to lock up Amari Cooper 1st, then see what salary cap remains to sign Dak. It's all gonna work out fine.
Are you trying to get a nickname? We just fought this battle. Maybe I’m not understanding your fancy word correctly. If you say Dak is maybe not a top 5 QB, you can be considered an analyst. If you say he is not a top 10 QB, you are an anal cyst. And your an dumass
Whether you hate him or not, if there's a way for sure money, why not take it? That's what I think I am doing. No way Tua will be better than Dak. No way. Not even in the same discussion. I feel I have insulted Dak by putting Tua in the same sentence.