Dak turning down 30 million?
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Why did that trigger you? If the cowboys have a top 5 paid qb and rb, that will be tough long term. I think them both wanting that type of money might make the cowboys choose 1 or the other.
ETA... fwiw, I have zero problem with both of them trying to get their money... that's why they play. It does put their organization in a tough spot. I hate the cowboys though, so frick em. Thank God, brees has made his money, and allowed the saints to pay him less to compete
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Jones family maybe leaked it to gauge fan reaction on a 30 million dollar offer.
If fans say “Dak’s nuts that’s a good deal” they go and offer the 30.
If fans rip the Jones’ for offering that and not something in the 25 range they go to Dak with the 25 offer, tell him fans will dislike him at 30 but he’s a hero at 25. More for Zeke and Amari who he needs and ultimately will get him much more on the endorsement end when theyre winners not 8-8.
If fans say “Dak’s nuts that’s a good deal” they go and offer the 30.
If fans rip the Jones’ for offering that and not something in the 25 range they go to Dak with the 25 offer, tell him fans will dislike him at 30 but he’s a hero at 25. More for Zeke and Amari who he needs and ultimately will get him much more on the endorsement end when theyre winners not 8-8.
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Cowboys are in a really bad spot with dak, zeke, and amari wanting elite money. The cowboys' offense was 22nd in scoring and total offense. WEI. Offense had the cowboys 24th. Their offense would be awful without that trio, but it wasn't that good with them
Does that include the first nine games where there was no Amari? Because they had the worst WR Corps while also juggling bad tight ends so Dak has no one to throw to.
I know I'm a Dak Prescott fan first and foremost. That said,
The Cowboys organization has enjoyed the absolute, 100%, best value in a quarterback since Green Bay first signed Brett Favre.
Pay the man. He's been the starter for three 17in years. Got em back to the playoffs. 3 year numbers are behind only Tom Brady. Leadership skills-off the charts. Team player. Great character. The current face of the franchise. Been there every freaking day for every team function and scrimmage, treated the offense to a week long retreat 1st class all the way.
17ing pay the man. /off soapbox.
The Cowboys organization has enjoyed the absolute, 100%, best value in a quarterback since Green Bay first signed Brett Favre.
Pay the man. He's been the starter for three 17in years. Got em back to the playoffs. 3 year numbers are behind only Tom Brady. Leadership skills-off the charts. Team player. Great character. The current face of the franchise. Been there every freaking day for every team function and scrimmage, treated the offense to a week long retreat 1st class all the way.
17ing pay the man. /off soapbox.
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Yes, I didn't separate. Feel free to give up last 7 game stats for the nfl, but it would be sorta tough to put too much in it with teams resting starters at the end and teams making youth movements
Man, hope it doesn’t back fire on Dak. 30 mil a year seems extremely reasonable from both sides. If this is true, anyway.
30 million would put him in top 5 QB salaries in the league. Not sure how much more he wants if true.
The Eagles just gave a statistically worse, less accomplished, and injury prone QB in Wentz 32 million/year. Any offer less than that is an insult to Dak.
You can't compare Dak's situation with Brady's. Brady has made $200,000,000 in his NFL career not counting endorsements and has a wife who may have made more money than he has. Dak has made $2,700,000. That said, if we wants to win Super Bowls in Dallas, he doesn't really need to be turning down $30,000,000.
The eagles doing something doesn't mean the cowboys should. The pats and saints are paying brees and Brady 23 million this year. Should dak be flattered the cowboys are willing to pay him 30.4% more than the saints and pats pay 2 HOFs?
Since when is being a top 5 QB a prerequisite for being paid elite money?
Signed,
Matthew Stafford
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Matthew Stafford
I hardly think offering dak 30 million is insulting. I think that's a good deal for both parties
Great reading.
Is this one true, "I’ve heard on
@1053thefan
he’s trying to get at least $36 mill/year"?
Passing judgement on an NFL contract offer knowing nothing more than the average yearly payout is pointless. NFL contracts aren’t guaranteed. If the guaranteed money isn’t right, then it could be a horrible deal for Dak, regardless of the reported average annual salary.
Dark wants to be a Cowboy for a long time. It is not the $30 mil. It is the terms. Dude led them to best record in NFL his first season making $360,000. At the end of this year it will be $2.7 mil. NFL players, heck, all professional athletes are woefully OVER paid. But the leagues created the monster, and the fans are willing to pay for it. So Dak needs to get 6 years at $32 mil per year guaranteed.
Dak...
2016: qbr = 78.8, rating = 104.9
2017: qbr = 69.5, rating = 86.6
2018: qbr = 58.6, rating = 96.9
Wentz...
2016: qbr = 49.4, rating = 79.3
2017: qbr = 77.2, rating = 101.9
2018: qbr = 64.9, rating = 102.2
That's their numbers. Again though, not sure what the eagles paying wentz has to do with the cowboys and dak.
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Just because the eagles gave their QB bad contract doesn’t mean the cowboys automatically have to
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Dak is better than Wentz in the following career stats:
wins, playoff wins, completions, completion percentage, passing yards, yards per attempt, TD/interception ratio, interceptions (fewer), QB rating (which doesn't include any impact of rushing), and everything related to rushing. Also no injuries of any kind compared to Wentz going down for the season twice. And Dak has had worse coaching, a more meddlesome owner, a front office less committed to winning.
wins, playoff wins, completions, completion percentage, passing yards, yards per attempt, TD/interception ratio, interceptions (fewer), QB rating (which doesn't include any impact of rushing), and everything related to rushing. Also no injuries of any kind compared to Wentz going down for the season twice. And Dak has had worse coaching, a more meddlesome owner, a front office less committed to winning.
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He either wants more guaranteed money, a longer deal, or for the deal to start right away. Again, this is an extension. If he gets 5 years / $30 million as an extension, that’s essentially only a 6-year / $20 million per year deal in average compensation for the next 6 years. Only if they rip up the last year of his rookie contract does he get to actually make anything close to comparable money to the other recent contracts signed by Wentz, Wilson, Cousins, etc. And again, even if you take the $30 million at face value, its still less than what Wentz got, who is a comparable player.
No and the rams were dumb to pay Gurley like that with all of his health concerns.
Well here is something that is becoming less common on this board - a voice of reason.
From a business point of view, Dak needs the Cowboys every bit as much - if not more - than the Cowboys need him.
Now that football season is upon us, he is all over our TV sets pitching all sorts of products and services. Does anybody think he would have that many deals if he was the QB in Detroit and not Dallas?
They will work a deal out, but not until it works for both sides.
Correct. There is no way to take a random tweet about $30M/yr and know whether it was a good or bad deal for Dak. If it was a 5-yr deal at $30M per, and the majority(80% or more) was guaranteed, I’d have to side with the media on this one. On the other hand, if it was presented more like a Garoppolo deal where the team can essentially tear the contract up after a couple seasons, I could see why Dak would want more guarantees.
I don’t know what will end up getting worked out, but I know that Zeke’s in Cabo, we can’t go a week without Antonio Brown bitching about something, and Dak is leading a team. All while he’s made less in his first 4 years combined than what Zeke or AB received as a signing bonus. It’s time for him to get paid
I don’t know what will end up getting worked out, but I know that Zeke’s in Cabo, we can’t go a week without Antonio Brown bitching about something, and Dak is leading a team. All while he’s made less in his first 4 years combined than what Zeke or AB received as a signing bonus. It’s time for him to get paid
If someone would like to offer me 30 million/yr, I promise I will accept without feeling insulted.***
Your point about endorsements being better in Dallas is legit, but Dak still had/has to perform on the field to get those deals. Quincy Carter wasn't ever on TV selling me yogurt. So in that vein, at least 25% of the NFL would line up to pay Dak - what is Dallas's plan B at QB?