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drummerdawg

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Decent plan but fortunately for us we have 5,000+ fans who were willing to drop $1,500/ticket for a 10-year reservation fee.

Come 2028 when that contract expires and it is time to renew, they will have 10 years of data and can make a decision at that time on which way to go. However, as long as people are willing to pony up that kind of cash, the athletic department will continue to sell the season tickets, 100% guaranteed. Only option would be to expand the stadium, and those might sell out too. At that point, there is no solution, unless you want to build a third deck.

I get it. So, that's $150 dollars per seat for the year on top of the ticket price. I talked to a friend of mine and they paid $400 per ticket for a chairback seat. That's only $550 per seat per year we would need to make up. I counted 36 home games on the schedule and that only comes out to $15.27 per seat for a game. You could charge 20 bucks per seat on a first come first serve basis and make more money than what we are now. Unless I'm missing something, math wasn't my strength. That way you wouldn't lose money AND you'd put butts in seats. Now, I'm not saying we should totally do away with season tickets but we could reduce the number without losing money.
 

PineGroveBully

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Anyone that stayed home Saturday just bc they could watch it on television really needs help. You couldn't ask for a better weekend weather wise to watch a baseball game. Abner Doubleday invented baseball for days like Saturday.*
 

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I get it. So, that's $150 dollars per seat for the year on top of the ticket price. I talked to a friend of mine and they paid $400 per ticket for a chairback seat. That's only $550 per seat per year we would need to make up. I counted 36 home games on the schedule and that only comes out to $15.27 per seat for a game. You could charge 20 bucks per seat on a first come first serve basis and make more money than what we are now. Unless I'm missing something, math wasn't my strength. That way you wouldn't lose money AND you'd put butts in seats. Now, I'm not saying we should totally do away with season tickets but we could reduce the number without losing money.

Curious how you would decide who gets to be unlucky enough to take their season tickets away from them. Let's make it only people who live in Starkville, that way we will be sure that those seats will be filled. I live in Stark so I get to keep mine so that works for me. The young man who sits a few rows below me but drives from Brandon every weekend might be upset though. But then again, he can't come to weekday games so screw him. There's that older couple who live in Columbus and have had season tickets for 25 years but they are getting up there in years and can't make the games as often as they used to. Let's take theirs away. I mean a 25 year tradition means nothing in comparison to having that seat filled by some random people EVERY weekend. While we are at it, we should make sure that the left field lounges come up for reassignment at least every couple of years. I mean when I was at the game Sunday there were a number of those that weren't occupied.
 
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ezsoil

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Yeah I’ve been buying off stubhub when chair backs are decently priced. Sometimes not. So I have have had a pretty good idea the amount of tickets being resold. When I get there to the game there are tons of empty seats that were not on any of the third party markets meanwhile lots of people packed in berms and SRO. That would or they are staying at home because they don’t want to pay quadruple ticket price for a resold chairback or they don’t want to stand for 5 innings.


This is is what bothers me the most....whether it be basketball or baseball...the problem is the better seats are owned by Bulldog club members with an average age of 70 plus...either they lack the technological skills to place tickets on the secondary markets or they are just plain lazy, leaving the seats empty. I can't see them ever getting over 13,000 with the current set up.
 

deadheaddawg

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I have no problem with the grandstand tickets we have now. We need the rich people to buy those seats.

The stadium looks amazing on TV. All the reports have been outstanding. It seems like every tv broadcast they are bragging. I'm glad we built this amazing place.

Unfortunately I have 3 kids and a wife that has had multiple back surgeries. I used to go to a 2-3 sec series a year. I am not even going to attempt to go to a SEC weekend game now. Hopefully I can take a day off next year and drive down to a mid week game.

I wish they would have just thought of us a little more in the design. Maybe make the grandstands bigger, or designed the berm areas more for fan comfort than for asthetics. I understand that would not maximize profit though

It is what it is. I want the program to be successful. If that means I have to now be a TV fan, there isn't much I can do about it. I do hope they address it one day.

The thing that makes me the saddest is my kids will not be able to experience State baseball like I did. I fear they may never love it the way I do
 

Pilgrimdawg

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Sounds like you need to keep yo *** on the couch!
Not cool Diggin. Remember, these little kids that are not getting to attend games are our future students, fans, and alumni. THe experiences I had as a kid attending games at State made me a life long Bulldog and because of the way I then raised my kids, my now adult children and my Grandkids are all also life long Bulldogs. It has been the domino affect if you will. If these kids don’t get to go or they go but don’t have a good time, perhaps they don’t become life long Bulldogs and end up as students, fans, and alumni of a different school. Are our ticket and seating issues creating long term damage for future generations? I don’t know, but I think that it is definitely a risk.
 

MaroonBelle

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I have no problem with the grandstand tickets we have now. We need the rich people to buy those seats.

The stadium looks amazing on TV. All the reports have been outstanding. It seems like every tv broadcast they are bragging. I'm glad we built this amazing place.

Unfortunately I have 3 kids and a wife that has had multiple back surgeries. I used to go to a 2-3 sec series a year. I am not even going to attempt to go to a SEC weekend game now. Hopefully I can take a day off next year and drive down to a mid week game.

I wish they would have just thought of us a little more in the design. Maybe make the grandstands bigger, or designed the berm areas more for fan comfort than for asthetics. I understand that would not maximize profit though

It is what it is. I want the program to be successful. If that means I have to now be a TV fan, there isn't much I can do about it. I do hope they address it one day.

The thing that makes me the saddest is my kids will not be able to experience State baseball like I did. I fear they may never love it the way I do

I never, ever went to State baseball games as a child. Can't remember one. Went to basketball and football every year but we didn't have season tickets because we always lived several hours away. When I was a student at State I came to a few games and sat in one of the fraternity lounges but it wasn't a large part of my student experience the way football and basketball were. When my parents retired to Stark 18 years ago the first thing they did was get season tickets (2 for basketball (m&w), 2 for baseball, 3 for football). I came to all SEC home football games and made a couple of baseball and basketball games every year. But I always had a distance sense of appreciation for the baseball program and its history and really started following it closely in 2012. Even though I lived so far away I couldn't make games, social media gave me a real feeling of connectivity to the team (this was before SEC started televising all games). When I moved to Stark, I picked season tickets for myself (added it to theirs for Bsktball and was able to find one single solitary seat that was in their row for baseball that no one had any idea wasn't already claimed) In the ensuing time baseball has become, by far, my favorite sport. I love the game, I love socializing with the fans around me and heckling the ump, I love homeruns, strikeouts, diving catches and double plays, just everything.

I say all this to say that not being able to attend games doesn't preclude them from falling in love with MSU baseball. It is so very, very easy to love and the players are so likable and they are on TV all the time and are all over social media showing their personality which your children will probably be way more tuned in to than you. They actually have more access to the program now even from a distance than you did making an occasional game as a child. And when you are able to go with them to a game, if you are exposing them to the team through tv, they will already feel a kinship and an excitement for it.
 
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deadheaddawg

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That true. It's still possible to learn to love it via TV, but I think baseball is magical in person.

You don't get the smells and sounds and sunshine unless you are there. I know I am nostalgic for my childhood, and my kids can grow up different and still love it.

And again, if this is the price we pay for a elite program I'm fine with it. CWS titles are more importantly than my singular family.

So if this is the only way, I'm ok. I do hope they find a way to improve the GA experience at some point in the future though. And I do feel some sadness for not being able to share the stadium experience with my kids like my parents did with me

But we are season ticket holders for state football. We live in Memphis and catch Redbirds games. So I can't complain too much
 

bruiser.sixpack

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I just built a man cave dog cave. Thanks to ESPN and SEC+, I have an option. If I want to go by myself, I’ll figure out a place to stand or sit. The wife ain’t goin if she don’t have a seat. I think that is more the issue. Wives and kids “standing”.
 

paindonthurt_

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No one that visits this site regularly should ever ***** abt not having a seat again.

I started 2 threads and bumped both multiple times abt tickets.

Sold Friday and Saturday but not Sunday.

There are tickets to be found if you really want them.
 

paindonthurt_

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$35 to $40 is roughly what it cost a season ticket holder per ticket for the year.

Asking for what you put into it for such a “high demand” item is pretty fair.
 

paindonthurt_

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How much do you think a chairback costs per game?

It’s between $35 and $40 per seat.

I’ll be damn someone wants to make their hard earned money back vs giving them away. I’ll be damned.
 

RocketDawg

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This is is what bothers me the most....whether it be basketball or baseball...the problem is the better seats are owned by Bulldog club members with an average age of 70 plus...either they lack the technological skills to place tickets on the secondary markets or they are just plain lazy, leaving the seats empty. I can't see them ever getting over 13,000 with the current set up.

But don't they count tickets sold instead of actual attendance? The attendance numbers are listed as if there actually are people sitting in all the empty seats you see between 1st and 3rd bases.
 

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Instead of taking away seats, If you have season tickets and are coming to a game, turn them back in to the ticket office and get some number of bulldog club points. This will give people more incentive to go to the trouble of turning tickets in.

Ok how about this: instead of sending people their season tickets all at once before the season, give them the opportunity to go online and download their game tickets a few days or maybe a week before kickoff or first pitch.

When you go online you have a choice to respond in 72 hours and either:

1. Claim your e-Tickets, download them and see you at the game, or...

2. Send them to the BDC online exchange in hopes the university resells them and you get the money (or BDC points) in your BDC club account, or...

3. You don’t do anything. You have no tickets for the game and those seats are either sold on the exchange or donated. I’d offer them area youth groups, schools, businesses, churches, what have you, so that they will likely be used, even when State is playing South Nebraska Tech or the like.

This way there wouldn’t be any season ticket holders getting to the game and discovering their tickets had been sold, because you obviously never went online and got them. You have the right to claim those tickets, but not the right to do nothing with them.
 

cowbell88

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Was disappointed with the crowd on Saturday and Sunday. Considering all that was at stake on Saturday, I was expecting at least 13K. Several lounges were even vacant, and even more so on Sunday.

I did meet a nice couple on Sunday. They have a left field lounge and seats between plate and our dugout. The lady said some of the seats around them have been vacant all year, and some have had different people almost every game.

On a side note, they have been to Omaha 38 years in a row. Said they have friends that meet them there. Some were even from overseas.
 

Ishmael

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That true. It's still possible to learn to love it via TV, but I think baseball is magical in person.

You don't get the smells and sounds and sunshine unless you are there. I know I am nostalgic for my childhood, and my kids can grow up different and still love it.

And again, if this is the price we pay for a elite program I'm fine with it. CWS titles are more importantly than my singular family.

So if this is the only way, I'm ok. I do hope they find a way to improve the GA experience at some point in the future though. And I do feel some sadness for not being able to share the stadium experience with my kids like my parents did with me

But we are season ticket holders for state football. We live in Memphis and catch Redbirds games. So I can't complain too much

This is basically my situation too and you’ve summarized my feelings about it exactly. For a variety of reasons, I won’t be able to take my family to a game this season, but have made an SEC weekend in most years past and hope to in the future. Hopefully there will be actual seats available for purchase when I do (and $40 per ticket doesn’t seem that unreasonable for an SEC game in that setting). But, I understand why they made the decisions they did in building the stadium.
 

drummerdawg

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Curious how you would decide who gets to be unlucky enough to take their season tickets away from them. Let's make it only people who live in Starkville, that way we will be sure that those seats will be filled. I live in Stark so I get to keep mine so that works for me. The young man who sits a few rows below me but drives from Brandon every weekend might be upset though. But then again, he can't come to weekday games so screw him. There's that older couple who live in Columbus and have had season tickets for 25 years but they are getting up there in years and can't make the games as often as they used to. Let's take theirs away. I mean a 25 year tradition means nothing in comparison to having that seat filled by some random people EVERY weekend. While we are at it, we should make sure that the left field lounges come up for reassignment at least every couple of years. I mean when I was at the game Sunday there were a number of those that weren't occupied.

I guess it would have to be something like they did with the "lifetimers". There's always a way around it. Could wait 9 more years which honors their commitment and just redo the system at that point but I'd hate waiting that long. I'm sure there are some that will not renew their season tickets each year and instead of selling those as season tickets you could just sell those seats as a game by game ticket until we get to the magic number we want. I'm on board with helping everybody as possible. I respect season ticket holders and what they contribute. I just don't like leaving out the everyday fan or family that randomly decides to go to a baseball game but can't because the stadium doesn't fit with their situation. Let's just say F-U to all families, elderly, people with certain physical difficulties and disabilities, etc. because they can't buy season tickets for whatever reason (isn't always about money). I personally know several people who are not going to games because of the lack of seating. If you enjoy half empty grandstands and making less money then fine. I prefer a packed house that accommodates everyone and makes a ton of money. The newness will wear off before long and less and less people will return after they experience it. Word is now out there about the lack of seating and it is and will be a problem. Most everyone I've spoken with that has visited the stadium has the same impressions. They say it's BEAUTIFUL but they hate the not having a seat. These same people are not planning to go back and I think that is a shame. Nearly $70 million spent on a new stadium and we can't get this right. Things can be done, just have to be creative.
 

paindonthurt_

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This is already an option and people ***** abt the cost.

$40/ticket is the cost per game for season ticket holders.
 

thekimmer

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Just one problem with that scheme....

I get it. So, that's $150 dollars per seat for the year on top of the ticket price. I talked to a friend of mine and they paid $400 per ticket for a chairback seat. That's only $550 per seat per year we would need to make up. I counted 36 home games on the schedule and that only comes out to $15.27 per seat for a game. You could charge 20 bucks per seat on a first come first serve basis and make more money than what we are now. Unless I'm missing something, math wasn't my strength. That way you wouldn't lose money AND you'd put butts in seats. Now, I'm not saying we should totally do away with season tickets but we could reduce the number without losing money.
Those numbers are predicated on selling out the stadium for every game. That will not happen.
 

Go Budaw

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$35 to $40 is roughly what it cost a season ticket holder per ticket for the year.

Asking for what you put into it for such a “high demand” item is pretty fair.

Except that one of the major things that factors into that cost is having a seat for regionals and super regionals. Almost none of the single regular season games has an actual demand of $40 per ticket for a chairback seat, with the notable exceptions of SBW (Friday / Saturday only), or in the Friday-Saturday games in even numbered years when we play OM at home. If that demand was there, people would pay it instead of going the GA and non-attendance routes.

As far as what is “fair” for season ticket holders to ask price wise on the secondary market, it’s fair for them to ask whatever the hell they want. It’s their tickets. But, it is both to their best interest and the buyers for them to ask what they are worth on a game-by-game basis. That way the occasional attendees can get seats at a reasonable price, and the season ticket holders don’t have to eat the cost of unused tickets for games they aren’t attending. That clearly isn’t happening right now on a large enough scale to draw in more fans. It’s a very inefficient market at present time.
 
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CochiseCowbell

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I think that is more the issue. Wives and kids “standing”.

Since I finally made the 12 hour round trip to attend, I'll actually weigh in on this thread. I think you are correct here, bruiser.

I "acquired" (a favor swap for tickets to a particular event in my home town) 2 chair backs for both the Friday and Saturday games. I also had a LFL invitation. This was my first time in the lounges and the girlfriend and I went to our seats after the 4th inning, Friday. The hosts were gracious and hospitable but, we felt a little awkward or that we were standing in a regular's spot. We found our section (212) and just sat on the second row in vacant seats; ours were probably 6 or 7 rows up.

Saturday, we didn't leave the LFL. There were significantly fewer people, I found out my cooler would fit, so I had my own baseball water, etc. We stood the whole game at the fence. The gentleman segue I had to the lounge is 75 with a bad back, and he makes the trip up from Meridian most SEC series; doing the same all three games. He buys a GA ticket every game.

I mention all that to say this:

Not everyone has a LFL invite. This is the first time I EVER have. That said, if I lived closer, I'd buy GA tickets all the time and stand at the drink rails, or the Adkerson Plaza. There were a lot less people on the latter than I thought there'd be. With wives and kids that probably wouldn't fly. Question: Could I still consume my baseball water from a cup at the drink rails or the Plaza?
 

kired

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Where are you people seeing $40 tickets online? I checked stubhub Sunday morning and there were a few listed for $60 each, not including fees. Think it was over $70 each if you added fees.

For comparison --- I've bought Cardinals, Pirates, and Rockies tickets off Stubhub over the last 2 years. Had good seats but haven't paid more than $35 each with fees included. About $40-$50 would be my limit for just about any baseball game.

But I'm fine with GA tickets because my kids don't want to sit anyway.
 

jdbulldog

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This is is what bothers me the most....whether it be basketball or baseball...the problem is the better seats are owned by Bulldog club members with an average age of 70 plus...either they lack the technological skills to place tickets on the secondary markets or they are just plain lazy, leaving the seats empty. I can't see them ever getting over 13,000 with the current set up.

Or they are just plain rich.
 

paindonthurt_

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I’ve sold quite a few in the $25 to $35/ticket/game range

That’s not far off of $40

Also when selling on stub hub they are trying to make the demand plus a fee I assume.

I don’t screw with stub hub.
 

paindonthurt_

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You can drink your beer almost anywhere in the stadium if it’s in a cup and you don’t act like a fool.
 

Go Budaw

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I’ve sold quite a few in the $25 to $35/ticket/game range

That’s not far off of $40

Also when selling on stub hub they are trying to make the demand plus a fee I assume.

I don’t screw with stub hub.

I guess what I am getting at when I say “demand price” is what is the price that at least 50% of potential buyers are willing to pay for a ticket to any given game? You may sell some here and there for $35. There are certainly some people out there who have a little change in their pocket (or are coming from way out if town and will spare no expense) that will pay that out of convenience, or some that don’t but just don’t want the headache of finding a different option for less. But I think those folks are the exception rather than the rule. And of course, the chances of you selling your tickets increase greatly with the amount of effort you put into it. If you live in Starkville and know some folks, it’s a bit easier. But just throwing them up on StubHub and hoping for the best doesn’t neccessarily require a great effort.

To summarize, let’s assume that the grandstands are generally 60% full, which I believe to be a fair assumption based on TV games and first hand accounts. That’s 2,000 open seats. Do you think that you are going to find 1,000 fans per game for every SEC contest that are willing to pay $35-$40 per ticket to watch a college baseball game? I just don’t think so. And a lot of folks on these numerous threads seem to agree. But maybe your experience is different.
 
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