What a way to end it!

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So now you want to know the odds we'll have another case of fielders running into each other on an easy fly ball in a specific at bat? Are you serious?? What next...you gonna ask us to factor in a, "what if there were suddenly a 100 mph gust blow in at the moment we're about to make a catch"? Or, "What if, just at the moment our guy is about to make the catch, the Bluebird of Happiness flies by and craps in his eye, causing him to lose site and drop it"?

Just keep digging. Unreal.

I see your jimmies are sufficiently rustled. The reason why you are an ******* is that you are the only one speaking in absolutes, and you straight up can’t handle any opposing viewpoints (even ones presented respectfully) without lashing out like an insecure ***** at anyone who will listen. I’ve said already on the thread that I didn’t even think the steal was bad in general, but SITUATIONALLY it was not a great time to do it on that pitch. In my opinion. Maybe the baseball gods think I’m wrong. Maybe not. I honestly don’t give a ****, but oh man do you seem to be losing sleep over it. You are over here acting like you always have to steal there, damn the torpedos, on any count, no matter what is going on in the game based on what some damn spreadsheet is telling you, and that level of universal truth doesn’t exist in baseball. If Wes Rea was 3-3 on the season in stolen bases against SWAC teams, would you run him there? Of course the 17 not. Context and situation matters. You fail to grasp that.
 
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TrueMaroonGrind

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No kidding. Can’t believe they gave away the last out like that. 4 out of 5 runs with two outs, and Maineri takes the bat out of his player’s hands.

C'mon, man. Don't you see the entertainment value? It's a spirited debate and it is tied to the topic, not a hijack. I think it's fun.

It never gets old. Too bad it got buried under a statistics slapfest thread highjack.

Such a shame. Sometimes you win, sometimes you get stuck in the middle of a t-ball dad fight.
 

blacklistedbully

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Just more ignorance and straw-man BS. Lashing out like an insecure *****? Lol. I'm simply countering your horribly wrong contentions, which despite all evidence and proof you are wrong, you keep coming back and trying to defend. Every time you bring more BS, I call it out and provide a reasoned explanation of why you are dead wrong.

You're the one who simply can't bear being proved wrong. Your repeated attempts to justify an ignorant opinion get more and more desperate with each post. You're incapable of making a reasoned argument...and incapable of attacking the points.

You now accuse me of, "acting like you always have to steal there, damn the torpedos, on any count, no matter what is going on in the game based on what some damn spreadsheet is telling you", when that's utter BS. I explained in detail why it made sense to steal in that situation. Among the details I considered were 2 outs, 9th inning, down 1 run, having my last batter available with an average above .238 at the plate, this batter being a singles hitter with just one extra-base-hit ALL YEAR LONG, guy on deck 0-fer, guy in-the-hole 0-fer, pitcher dealing in a way that makes stringing two hits together or 2 walks and a hit MUCH less likely than Duplantis getting thrown out stealing 2nd, knowing the best pinch hit candidates have already been used, etc.

But you keep coming up with stupid **** like, "he could bring in a LH pinch-hitter", when there are no left-handed pinch-hitters left, or suggesting their odds might be better hoping for another error because we'd already made 2, or suggesting the odds Gordon would throw away the game on a wild pitch were better. You say **** like this without even considering how much longer the odds are of those things happening than are the odds Duplantis steals 2nd successfully.

Nobody here, including me has suggested it's never, ever a good idea to consider other factors than just the stats. For instance, if I've got a guy on the bench who has a low batting average, but I know he's been seeing and hitting the ball really well the last few games, just right at somebody...I would for sure consider going against the stats that say not to use him. But this was a case of "other factors" not coming close to making a good case.

Everybody is wrong plenty of times. No doubt I've posted some stupid or ill-informed stuff on this board before. But I've also been willing to admit I was wrong when I'm shown I am. You continue to bring up ridiculous BS in an attempt to prove you are right. In this case, you are not. It's just a shame you couldn't realize it, accept it, and move on before it become this long drawn out, humiliating exercise for you. At least get more informed and factual before you decide to do battle like this. Might have kept you from posting things like, "they could bring in LH pinch-hitters" when they're aren't any left, or, "haven't you heard of pinch-hitters" when the only guys left to use don't seem capable of hitting themselves out of a wet paper bag.

How can you not grasp that LSU was down to their last hitter that at .304 was their best chance to get a single before then needing a guy that was .238 or worse coming in needing to get a hit? How can you not grasp that the guy at the plate is a singles hitter...has been all year, so the odds of him getting extra bases were slimmer than Duplantius stealing 2nd? How can you not get that the odds of that .304 guy getting a hit/walk and the .238 or worse guy coming in and getting a hit are much lower than Duplantis successfully stealing 2nd? How can you not get the odds are even longer the .304 guy can get on, then the .238 guy walks, even though he has struck out 13 times vs 2 bb this season, and then 0-4 .241 guy gets a hit?

In this situation you're not just advocating going against the stats a little. You're advocating pie-in-the-sky, abandon all reason, poke and hope, spit-in-the-eye of every useful stat there is stuff.

Also, suggesting an 0-1 count is a bad one to attempt a steal is BS. It's actually a good count. Your hope is to have your runner at 2nd before your last decent hitter is stuck having to approach the at-bat guarding the plate, etc. Want to know another one of the best times to attempt a steal of 2nd?
With two outs when a good hitter is at the plate, but one without a lot of power and a single is most likely. That's exactly what LSU had.
 
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She Mate Me

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Just more ignorance and straw-man BS. Lashing out like an insecure *****? Lol. I'm simply countering your horribly wrong contentions, which despite all evidence and proof you are wrong, you keep coming back and trying to defend. Every time you bring more BS, I call it out and provide a reasoned explanation of why you are dead wrong.

You're the one who simply can't bear being proved wrong. Your repeated attempts to justify an ignorant opinion get more and more desperate with each post. You're incapable of making a reasoned argument...and incapable of attacking the points.

You now accuse me of, "acting like you always have to steal there, damn the torpedos, on any count, no matter what is going on in the game based on what some damn spreadsheet is telling you", when that's utter BS. I explained in detail why it made sense to steal in that situation. Among the details I considered were 2 outs, 9th inning, down 1 run, having my last batter available with an average above .238 at the plate, this batter being a singles hitter with just one extra-base-hit ALL YEAR LONG, guy on deck 0-fer, guy in-the-hole 0-fer, pitcher dealing in a way that makes stringing two hits together or 2 walks and a hit MUCH less likely than Duplantis getting thrown out stealing 2nd, knowing the best pinch hit candidates have already been used, etc.

But you keep coming up with stupid **** like, "he could bring in a LH pinch-hitter", when there are no left-handed pinch-hitters left, or suggesting their odds might be better hoping for another error because we'd already made 2, or suggesting the odds Gordon would throw away the game on a wild pitch were better. You say **** like this without even considering how much longer the odds are of those things happening than are the odds Duplantis steals 2nd successfully.

Nobody here, including me has suggested it's never, ever a good idea to consider other factors than just the stats. For instance, if I've got a guy on the bench who has a low batting average, but I know he's been seeing and hitting the ball really well the last few games, just right at somebody...I would for sure consider going against the stats that say not to use him. But this was a case of "other factors" not coming close to making a good case.

Everybody is wrong plenty of times. No doubt I've posted some stupid or ill-informed stuff on this board before. But I've also been willing to admit I was wrong when I'm shown I am. You continue to bring up ridiculous BS in an attempt to prove you are right. In this case, you are not. It's just a shame you couldn't realize it, accept it, and move on before it become this long drawn out, humiliating exercise for you. At least get more informed and factual before you decide to do battle like this. Might have kept you from posting things like, "they could bring in LH pinch-hitters" when they're aren't any left, or, "haven't you heard of pinch-hitters" when the only guys left to use don't seem capable of hitting themselves out of a wet paper bag.

How can you not grasp that LSU was down to their last hitter that at .304 was their best chance to get a single before then needing a guy that was .238 or worse coming in needing to get a hit? How can you not grasp that the guy at the plate is a singles hitter...has been all year, so the odds of him getting extra bases were slimmer than Duplantius stealing 2nd? How can you not get that the odds of that .304 guy getting a hit/walk and the .238 or worse guy coming in and getting a hit are much lower than Duplantis successfully stealing 2nd? How can you not get the odds are even longer the .304 guy can get on, then the .238 guy walks, even though he has struck out 13 times vs 2 bb this season, and then 0-4 .241 guy gets a hit?

In this situation you're not just advocating going against the stats a little. You're advocating pie-in-the-sky, abandon all reason, poke and hope, spit-in-the-eye of every useful stat there is stuff.

Also, suggesting an 0-1 count is a bad one to attempt a steal is BS. It's actually a good count. Your hope is to have your runner at 2nd before your last decent hitter is stuck having to approach the at-bat guarding the plate, etc. Want to know another one of the best times to attempt a steal of 2nd?
With two outs when a good hitter is at the plate, but one without a lot of power and a single is most likely. That's exactly what LSU had.

 

blacklistedbully

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Good one, though I curse you for planting that damn song back in my mind. With 2 daughters, I had to listen to that song several times a day for far too many days. Might be more effective than water-boarding. I'd finally gotten it out of my head.
 
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