Perry needs to grow up fast..

[fishwater99]

He has the size and skills, but is too timid around the basket.
Play like a grown man and go up and Dunk!!

Why does our McDonald's all-american not look like one?

 

[Yellowbob]

Two sets of eyes see differently.

 

[KentuckyDawg13]

Expecting a freshman to be dominant especially in the SEC is a stretch. Perry probably has the highest ceiling of any of our players, but he needs to learn to play within the system still. If anything, he needs to chill on the attitude a bit. Seems refs are not pleased with his behavior thus call tic tac crap on him.
Also, if anyone on our team should be playing like a grown man and dunking, it's Holman.

 

[Trojanbulldog19]

Two sets of eyes see differently.

agree. he and Woodard have been two of our best. We are just really short handed in that area. Ado is great defensively, but a liability on offense. He has really no offensive ability and looks lost. Holman is absolutely garbage on defense. His offense is lacking also as that we need a big to play big. He plays like euro tall guys and hangs on the perimeter. we already have to many jacking up 3's. that's the last thing we need him doing. If he does that, we have no one to rebound (not that he really gets in there and rebounds either). He just plays kind of soft. Reminds me of the guy in glory road that get's pushed around a lot. Perry and Woodard are our only two paint players that don't play soft. They play with aggression and hustle. We really just miss having two other post guys we should have to fill in. Our upper classmen just aren't cutting it in the post, and our freshmen are still young.

 

[mstateglfr]

Just posted this in a different thread, but its applicable here too.



Perry has to stop shooting 3s. He is 6 for 25 on the season which means he is making less than 25% of the shots. a big man who shoots under 25% from deep has no 17ing business shooting from there until he can consistently shoot it in contact practice.

Perry and Woodard were a combined 3 of 16 overall. Oh, and they were 1 of 5 from deep. Playing hard is good, but scoring points is great.

 

[Trojanbulldog19]

Just posted this in a different thread, but its applicable here too.



Perry has to stop shooting 3s. He is 6 for 25 on the season which means he is making less than 25% of the shots. a big man who shoots under 25% from deep has no 17ing business shooting from there until he can consistently shoot it in contact practice.

Perry and Woodard were a combined 3 of 16 overall. Oh, and they were 1 of 5 from deep. Playing hard is good, but scoring points is great.

they all need to stop jacking up so many threes. except Carter. He is about the only one that is semi-consistent.

 

[stateu1]

Just posted this in a different thread, but its applicable here too.



Perry has to stop shooting 3s. He is 6 for 25 on the season which means he is making less than 25% of the shots. a big man who shoots under 25% from deep has no 17ing business shooting from there until he can consistently shoot it in contact practice.

Perry and Woodard were a combined 3 of 16 overall. Oh, and they were 1 of 5 from deep. Playing hard is good, but scoring points is great.

I bet Perry's layup percentage is less than 25%.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

Perry and Woodard are the biggest keys for us to have success. They can play both ends of the court which is still our biggest issue on this team. I had hoped Ado would have developed more but it is very clear he needs another year or needs to be regulated to being a bench player. Holman should have worked as hard on defense as he did on scoring this offseason. He also needs to figure out how to move without the ball so he doesn't put up any more bagels. We can offset some of his defensive liability with Perry in the game and Ado subbing.

I still think we will have a better team next season if we can only lose Q and Holman.

We should be a bad matchup for Auburn, we just need to play better perimeter defense to get back in the win column Saturday.

 

[BonzoGoesToCollege]

Just posted this in a different thread, but its applicable here too.



Perry has to stop shooting 3s. He is 6 for 25 on the season which means he is making less than 25% of the shots. a big man who shoots under 25% from deep has no 17ing business shooting from there until he can consistently shoot it in contact practice.

Perry and Woodard were a combined 3 of 16 overall. Oh, and they were 1 of 5 from deep. Playing hard is good, but scoring points is great.

I agree that Perry needs to quit shooting 3's but I'll take Woodard and Perry over Holman and Ado at the 4/5 any day of the week. Our starting 4/5 tandem last night combined for 45 minutes and produced 0 points, 5 boards. Woodard only played 17 minutes and pulled down 13 boards. Perry was 8/8. They're young and still learning, but will be very good for us. You can't teach heart and effort like they bring.

 

[fishwater99]

I bet Perry's layup percentage is less than 25%.

Exactly, just go up strong and dunk, he had several opportunities last night.

Hell, even The Renardo Sidney Show would dunk in those situations.

 

[VegasDawg13]

Carter... is about the only one that is semi-consistent.

Objectively false.

 

[VegasDawg13]

Exactly, just go up strong and dunk, he had several opportunities last night.

Hell, even The Renardo Sidney Show would dunk in those situations.

Mississippi State big men refusing to dunk is a time-honored tradition dating back to Robert Jackson.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

I agree that Perry needs to quit shooting 3's but I'll take Woodard and Perry over Holman and Ado at the 4/5 any day of the week. Our starting 4/5 tandem last night combined for 45 minutes and produced 0 points, 5 boards. Woodard only played 17 minutes and pulled down 13 boards. Perry was 8/8. They're young and still learning, but will be very good for us. You can't teach heart and effort like they bring.

^^This is why I think we could be a better team next season.

 

[StarkVegas Steve]

Perry and Woodard combined for 21 rebounds last night, our 2 starters........combined for 5. I think it's Ado and Holman that need to grow up. Or more importantly MAN THE 17 UP.

 

[mstateglfr]

Mississippi State big men refusing to dunk is a time-honored tradition dating back to Robert Jackson.

CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP!

 

[RiverCityDawg]

Perry and Woodard were a combined 3 of 16 overall. Oh, and they were 1 of 5 from deep. Playing hard is good, but scoring points is great.

Holman and Ado combined for ZERO points on 0-2 shooting and 5 rebounds. They're not playing hard consistently or smart OR scoring OR rebounding. It's just one game, sure. But Perry and Woodard rebound every damn game, which is almost completely an effort stat. I'd rather roll with that and hope the scoring comes along than what we've been getting from the other two lately.

 

[kired]

I miss Charles Rhodes

 

[mstateglfr]

I agree that Perry needs to quit shooting 3's but I'll take Woodard and Perry over Holman and Ado at the 4/5 any day of the week. Our starting 4/5 tandem last night combined for 45 minutes and produced 0 points, 5 boards. Woodard only played 17 minutes and pulled down 13 boards. Perry was 8/8. They're young and still learning, but will be very good for us. You can't teach heart and effort like they bring.

When the team shoots 31% overall and the other team shoots 44% overall, there are a 17ton of rebounding opportunities. Woodard and Perry certainly took advantage of the opportunity to rebound. Thats being serious- they had a combined 9 offensive rebounds which is great to see.
Woodard has athleticism and gives effort. His shooting wasnt great last night, but maybe that was just an off night from what we can expect once he gets a lot of minutes. I doubt it though, based on his FG% for the year.


Related note- Woodard and Perry are a combined 8 for 42 from deep. Thats 19% from deep. 19%. Why did they take a combined 5 shots from deep? Holy balls thats some terrible shooting %s.



I would pump the brakes on calling for Holman to be benched. He had a bad game and has struggled in the recent week. He also our second most consistent shooter from deep, has the 3rd best overall FG%, rebounds the most, and has the most blocks.
Benching him and replacing him with a couple of guys who shoot under 20% from deep is not really a recipe for winning.

 

[Trojanbulldog19]

went back and looked at stats. I was wrong on that. Statistically Nick has been the best overall percentage and he hasn't jacked up a lot. Still doesn't seem like that though. Seems like we have way too many attempts that aren't good attempts.

 

[fishwater99]

I miss Charles Rhodes

I miss me some Charles Rhodes!!!

Woodard can Dunk though, need to get Perry on that train!!!

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[PineGroveBully]

I absolutely hate to say this about a bulldog but Holman is playing as if he has a pulled ******. I just don't see how a player that has his size and ability with a lottery ticket just dangling in front of him and 50-60% of the time he seems to give exactly 2 17's out on the hardwood. It's a little late for him it seems but I'd give anything to get Holman and Perry locked in a gym with Charles Rhodes and Lawrence Roberts for a weekend. Call it "Playing like you have a set in the paint 101". I can't stand this pussyfooting around. If Holman would have already learned this lesson then he'd be a much better mentor for Perry.

 

[coach66]

He's playing like he's just trying to not get hurt and make it to the draft.

I've been watching him and it's ugly.

 

[KentuckyDawg13]

He does play like he is trying to be careful. I thought a few weeks ago when he was jogging gingerly that he may be injured and they haven't shared the news. Just something he has to deal with..?
It's really a shame though. If I was 6'10", I would be a freaking dunking monster. That's what is so frustrating with Ado. He has a body for the NBA but a mindset for middle school.

 

[Bulldogg31]

Does Holman really have the size for the NBA? I know he’s listed at 6’10 225, but I’m not sure he’s that heavy. Incidentally that’s the exact same height/weight he was in high school. Do our players not get bigger/stronger/faster while they’re here?

Anyway, seems like PF’s in the NBA average more like 240-250 lbs, but I’m admittedly not an NBA guy.

 

[fishwater99]

He does play like he is trying to be careful. I thought a few weeks ago when he was jogging gingerly that he may be injured and they haven't shared the news. Just something he has to deal with..?
It's really a shame though. If I was 6'10", I would be a freaking dunking monster. That's what is so frustrating with Ado. He has a body for the NBA but a mindset for middle school.

We need more Dunks!!!

 

[philduckworth]

Does Holman really have the size for the NBA? I know he’s listed at 6’10 225, but I’m not sure he’s that heavy. Incidentally that’s the exact same height/weight he was in high school. Do our players not get bigger/stronger/faster while they’re here?

Anyway, seems like PF’s in the NBA average more like 240-250 lbs, but I’m admittedly not an NBA guy.

Holman will not be in the NBA. Maybe he can make some money playing overseas.

 

[philduckworth]

I don't think I like playing the 2 freshmen together. and I don't like playing Peters and Nick together as much as we do.

Here's what I would do, I would start:

PG: Nick
G: Carter
G: Q
F: Perry
C: Ado

I would bring Peters off the bench for a scoring spark and I would try to stagger he and Nick a little bit better than what Howland does.

Woodard would get more minutes for me, but he's sort of a Dennis Rodman type player right now. He would need to understand his role is rebounding, energy, defense and not really scoring except for dunks and put backs.

Holman would play a little at the 4 and a little at the 5, but he would only be getting 10-15 per game for me.

 

[fishwater99]

Bump.

Another big step taken tonight.

#hailstate

 

[DAWG61]

Bump.

Another big step taken tonight.

#hailstate

Congrats you made yourself look stupid twice

 

[klong-dog]

Peter's is a starter. He's our best facilitator. Nick scares me some, just the way he dribbles. It's been called a few times this year. He palms the ball when dribbling and looks like he's carrying it.