Luginbill: Bench Fitz; Start KT

[Clarence Boddicker]

And you DO?

Someone is full of themselves.

Blue you still got that hot tub?

Hahahahahaha yeah I was there

 

[tired]

The game has to slow down a bit for KT, which playing could help that. He throws a nice deep ball and I think once it does slow down, he'll be hard to deal with. The guys don't seem to be following Fitz. I'm not sure what the answer is. At this point it seems it's not Moorehead.

 

[Wizard.sixpack]

I say go for it. Hell if Saban don't have a problem doing it why can't we?

 

[Wizard.sixpack]

and that should has plenty of time to get better

 

[patdog]

He's an idiot. It's Fitz' team.

Well, Fitz's team ain't looking so good right now. If this keeps up for a couple more quarters, it could be real interesting to see how his team responds to Key at QB.

 

[esplanade91]

It's all beside the point. I feel like a broken record...

We shouldn't HAVE to bring Thompson in. We have a record setting quarterback and a 1000 yd rusher (and an even more talented rusher). If he's the offensive guru, he should be able to figure out how to score points with that talent.

Bringing in Thompson at this point is basically giving up on Moorhead. That would mean the talent is the problem. Maybe that's what needs to happen, but damn if it isn't depressing.

I was lead to believe that Moorhead is an offensive mind. That means innovation, evolution, etc. If he's just a guy with a system that works for a couple years IF you have the perfect players, then he was never there guy for the job.

Disagree with you.

People need to quit putting Moorhead and Mullen on the same pedestal. Mullen has been a D1/SEC head coach for a decade. Hating him for leaving, thinking he made a lateral move, or whatever else is irrelevant. Every Mississippi State fan engaged in the debate of "did we just upgrade?!" when Dan left and Moorhead was hired and conveniently forgot how much of a growing pain there was with Dan coming into form. People were calling for him to get fired after he made a bad call to lose the game against LSU, and with the benefit of hindsight that 2009 starting 22 was pretty stacked with talent... maybe not 2018 levels but ACTUALLY close.

Fitz has warts, and maroon glasses and Dan's offensive wizardry with optimal personnel made everyone think we were a lot better than we were.

In the 2017 season that led people to talk about Fitz as a Heisman candidate -

LSU: 15/23 180 yards passing, 2 TD's
Georgia: 14/29 89 yards passing, 0 TD's, 2 INT's
Auburn: 13/33 157 yards passing, 1 TD, 2 INT's
UK: 18/26 155 yards passing, 1 TD
ATM: 12/21 141 yards passing, 2 TD's, 1 INT
Bama: 13/24 158 yards passing
Ark: 12/23 153 yards passing, 2 TD's
UM*: 10/22 247 yards passing, 2 TD's, 1 INT

What made people see "159 yards per game and 55% completion rate" and say "POTENTIAL HEISMAN CANDIDATE IN AN RPO OFFENSIVE"? AFTER FAILING TO GET TO .500 THE SEASON PRIOR?!!!!!! Credit where credit is due, Nick balls out on designed runs, but go back and watch the last 2 losses and you'll see that he's already made a decision of what he'll do with the ball and if it's a throw he already knows where he'll throw it. That's not a run-pass-option. What we're running with Fitz at QB is a overcomplicated variation of what Relf ran and a more accurate description of it would be pretend-to-think-about-it-but-actually-just-lineup-in-the-pistol-and-have-either-the-RB-or-QB-run-it.

I'm not putting this on Moorhead. We as MSU fans can be sold a bag of dog sh@# covered in gold flakes and then we'll argue with people that it's somehow an artistic expression worthy of ultimate praise when we're told otherwise. Just people need to level-set their expectations and take off the blinders. I think his offense can work at Mississippi State and I think he can be the one to pull it off. Disappointing that it wasn't as flawless as I convinced myself it would be. Start Key.

 

[Dawgzilla]

Because we still want to wins some games? I'm not saying forget about playing KT, I'm just saying there is no reason to think that will be an improvement. Our best chance to win is probably still with Fitz, but if it becomes clear that our chance of winning is approaching zero, then, yeah why not make a switch.

 

[MarkDallas]

Disagree with you.

People need to quit putting Moorhead and Mullen on the same pedestal. Mullen has been a D1/SEC head coach for a decade. Hating him for leaving, thinking he made a lateral move, or whatever else is irrelevant. Every Mississippi State fan engaged in the debate of "did we just upgrade?!" when Dan left and Moorhead was hired and conveniently forgot how much of a growing pain there was with Dan coming into form. People were calling for him to get fired after he made a bad call to lose the game against LSU, and with the benefit of hindsight that 2009 starting 22 was pretty stacked with talent... maybe not 2018 levels but ACTUALLY close.

Fitz has warts, and maroon glasses and Dan's offensive wizardry with optimal personnel made everyone think we were a lot better than we were.

I never mentioned Dan. Joe is his own man. He was billed as an offensive savant; that should equate to at least 1 TD in SEC play. You're saying that we don't have the talent to score a single TD? Oh wait, you did say we have great talent in 2018... so I don't know what your point is??? If you want to say that Joe deserves some time to acclimate to the SEC, then that could be a valid point.

In the 2017 season that led people to talk about Fitz as a Heisman candidate -

LSU: 15/23 180 yards passing, 2 TD's
Georgia: 14/29 89 yards passing, 0 TD's, 2 INT's
Auburn: 13/33 157 yards passing, 1 TD, 2 INT's
UK: 18/26 155 yards passing, 1 TD
ATM: 12/21 141 yards passing, 2 TD's, 1 INT
Bama: 13/24 158 yards passing
Ark: 12/23 153 yards passing, 2 TD's
UM*: 10/22 247 yards passing, 2 TD's, 1 INT

I never said Fitzgerald was a Heisman candidate. I said he is record setting (which is not an opinion). He certainly has the talent to score a single touchdown.

What made people see "159 yards per game and 55% completion rate" and say "POTENTIAL HEISMAN CANDIDATE IN AN RPO OFFENSIVE"? AFTER FAILING TO GET TO .500 THE SEASON PRIOR?!!!!!!

How did Fitzgerald fail to get to .500? I don't know what that means. Are you talking about 2016?

Credit where credit is due, Nick balls out on designed runs, but go back and watch the last 2 losses and you'll see that he's already made a decision of what he'll do with the ball and if it's a throw he already knows where he'll throw it. That's not a run-pass-option. What we're running with Fitz at QB is a overcomplicated variation of what Relf ran and a more accurate description of it would be pretend-to-think-about-it-but-actually-just-lineup-in-the-pistol-and-have-either-the-RB-or-QB-run-it.

So you explain how great Fitzgerald is at running the ball and how the system is too complicated, but your solution is: let's try another QB? Do you see my point? If the solution is "try another QB" then that means Moorhead is not a great offensive coach. It means he another guy with a "system" (that requires perfect players) that SEC coaches will figure out in 2 years.

I'm not putting this on Moorhead. We as MSU fans can be sold a bag of dog sh@# covered in gold flakes and then we'll argue with people that it's somehow an artistic expression worthy of ultimate praise when we're told otherwise. Just people need to level-set their expectations and take off the blinders. I think his offense can work at Mississippi State and I think he can be the one to pull it off. Disappointing that it wasn't as flawless as I convinced myself it would be. Start Key.

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[patdog]

I know he was hurt last year but man he needs to get his weight and head right
and help us.

He was fun to watch on Friday nights at Murrah. One of best players I ever saw in HS.

I agree. Bobby Hall said he was the best player he ever coached against. But it all came too easy for him at Murrah. He's never had the work ethic it takes at this level.

 

[PineGroveBully]

you'll see that he's already made a decision of what he'll do with the ball and if it's a throw he already knows where he'll throw it

i dont think I've ever seen him change the play before the snap when he didn't run the ball. The D has figured that out

 

[codeDawg]

Anybody who thinks our problems are at the QB position doesn’t understand the game.

 

[KentuckyDawg13]

Get a new RT. LT too.