Luginbill: Bench Fitz; Start KT
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Ok, Loogs, talk about, Loogs, Fitzgerald and his inability, Loogs, to comprehend the scheme Loogs.
Loogs.
Wow.
Loogs.
Wow.
I just don't see Fitz thriving in this offense. One or the other needs to give, because the combination of the two has 1 TD in the last 8 quarters.
Fitz has never exhibited the qualities of leadership essential for the position of starting QB in the SEC. I guess Dak set the bar too high. Fitz is a 17-up with squirrels running around in his brain. I mean the dude was suspended the first game of the season for Christ’s sake. I don’t give a damn what team vote the team gave him. He is too immature. He has not progressed during his entire time here. If he can’t run over you he is very limited as to what other kind of threat he possesses. And to watch Moorhead try to make him a passer is ludicrous. Watch JoMo on the sideline makes me feel like everyone we play is playing chess and Joe is out in the 17’ing hallway feeding the gumball dimes trying to get a green one.
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None of us have enough info on KT to really argue for bringing him in. The best we can say is that the offense isn't working with Fitz at the helm so why NOT give KT a shot? I even agree with that line of thinking to a certain extent, particularly if the offense is just as stagnant this Saturday.
I just don't think KT will make a difference. From what little we saw of him against SFA, he was also taking an extremely long time to make decisions after the snap. I don't remember if he was checking out of a lot of plays at the line like Fitz has been doing, but I've seen nothing to make me think KT is the answer.
Plus, until the line gets their jobs figured out, It won't really matter who is taking the snaps.
I just don't think KT will make a difference. From what little we saw of him against SFA, he was also taking an extremely long time to make decisions after the snap. I don't remember if he was checking out of a lot of plays at the line like Fitz has been doing, but I've seen nothing to make me think KT is the answer.
Plus, until the line gets their jobs figured out, It won't really matter who is taking the snaps.
Completely agree on starting Key the second half if need be. However, I'm thinking Joe is gonna ride this Shrader kid next year come hell or high water. That's his guy. He was recruiting him at Penn State.
KT played fairly well against OM, certainly played well against L'ville. Got all the snaps in the Spring and one game under his belt this year. Agree that he did not look that great in first game but Fitz has not looked good either. When you're struggling, why not shake things up? I just don't see much downside to it.
I'm bewildered at why this hasn't happened already. ESPECIALLY during the 4th quarter when it's painfully obvious the offense needs some sort of spark.
He was right at 50% passing in those two games, and looked totally unprepared when he came in against UMiss. That doesn't really matter, though, because we have now seen that success in last year's offense does not equate to success in this year's offense.
If KT were performing better than Fitz in practice, then I like to think we would have seen him play some over the last two weeks. Maybe not. As I said, I'm not opposed to seeing him come in this week if the offense is struggling again. I just don't see how anyone can say with any level of confidence that KT would be an improvement.
If KT were performing better than Fitz in practice, then I like to think we would have seen him play some over the last two weeks. Maybe not. As I said, I'm not opposed to seeing him come in this week if the offense is struggling again. I just don't see how anyone can say with any level of confidence that KT would be an improvement.
There are more problems with this offense than the QB. Guess we don't have anything else to lose --- but I've seen nothing to give me any hope that KT would do better than Fitz.
I do think KT would be a better runner with the current blocking scheme. He seems a little quicker & more agile, so he may be better at dancing his way through our offensive line. Fitz seems to have more straight line speed but we're not opening up the holes he needs to break big runs. My worry with KT is he seems more prone to fumbling.
I do think KT would be a better runner with the current blocking scheme. He seems a little quicker & more agile, so he may be better at dancing his way through our offensive line. Fitz seems to have more straight line speed but we're not opening up the holes he needs to break big runs. My worry with KT is he seems more prone to fumbling.
I think Shrader is a December grad, I may be wrong, but I think he is. Joe is gonna throw him with the 1s in the spring to see if he can pick up the offense. If he picks it up pretty quick and throws a mean deep ball he will be the guy.
Yeah. He's got to learn to protect the football. Bottom line is, if Fitz can/will play like he's capable of playing, there is no debate. He's the starter easily. And, while I do agree there's more problems with our offense than the QB right now, the fact is Fitz is a big part of the problem the last 2 weeks. Bad reads on the option, bad reads in the passing game, and multiple passes nowhere near the receiver. He needs about a half to see if he can straighten those out, if he can't, it's not like Key could do any worse.
I've been thinking the same thing, and I realize Dak is an unfair comparison for anyone, but he was almost another coach at this point in his career. I just don't see that with Fitz.
if moorhead wants to keep the current playcalling and scheme, i would agree with him. if everything stays as it is, the offense couldnt be worse and its worth a shot.
if moorhead gets his moorhead out of his moorass and runs the offense like its supposed to run, luginbill is wrong.
if moorhead gets his moorhead out of his moorass and runs the offense like its supposed to run, luginbill is wrong.
I’m ready to see Key start. I’m tired of watching Fitz struggle passing beyond 7 yards. You don’t have a quarterback if all he can do is run. We aren’t Georgia Tech or Navy. At least with Key you can start the next stage of his develop and let him get better. He can run just as well as Fitzgerald. Also Fitzgerald isn’t as elusive as he should be this season. I don’t know what thats about. Bare minimum they pass about the same. Fitzgerald is what he is and that’s not good enough for this offense. He throws the same as he did as a sophomore. He has not improved passing the ball at all and that’s astounding.
Not to mention, more low percentage throws
We called a lot of deep shots in the SFA game. Fitz is missing 10 and 15-yard patterns by 5 yards.
We called a lot of deep shots in the SFA game. Fitz is missing 10 and 15-yard patterns by 5 yards.
Won’t work. But we will be further down the road for next year.
The problem is in having command of the system and wr’s and the qb reading the defense at the same time.
I say let Fitz get his record first.
But can Key get Joe's offense and run it? If Shrader comes in and really gets this offense, even if he is green, Joe will ride him for four years.
Start...Malik Dear...at QB! Oh wait...is he even dressing out now..??
I know he was hurt last year but man he needs to get his weight and head right
and help us.
He was fun to watch on Friday nights at Murrah. One of best players I ever saw in HS.
He's an idiot. It's Fitz' team.
If KT does every play QB in a significant role for this year's team, it should be because Fitz is either hurt or playing wide receiver (where we need serious help anyway).
Sitting Fitz on the bench will just confirm that JoMo doesn't get it (like many of our fans).
If KT does every play QB in a significant role for this year's team, it should be because Fitz is either hurt or playing wide receiver (where we need serious help anyway).
Sitting Fitz on the bench will just confirm that JoMo doesn't get it (like many of our fans).
I may be way off, but here's my opinion / "hot take" on the "leadership" factor:
Yes, Dak was one hell of a leader. So, was Tebow. They're the real life embodiments of football movie QB's. They had the talent (especially for the college game & Mullen's scheme) AND they had the charisma/personality to win the locker room & the press conference.
They may or may not be once in a lifetime, or once in a generation, type of guys but they did have the "it" factor that Mullen often mentioned.
However, I think Mullen started to believe he, himself, was this "it" factor; that he was the common denominator. The three way battle (Williams, Tiano, Fitzgerald), the split locker room, & the opening loss to South Alabama (pulling Fitz after 1 maybe 2 series) in 2016 support the theory that he thought he was "coaching" one of them to be the next Magical Mullen Protege.
Clearly, as time has proven, Fitz has the most talent. Dak wasn't akin to another coach with the likes of X's & O's, but he was a motivational leader. He led by example & picked guys up after mistakes, etc.
To summarize: No, Fitz is not Dak. Dak wasn't Tebow. Mullen thought he could turn Fitz into one of them. That's not how it works. People/players respect & follow results/wins, & actions on the field first, words come second. I think Mullen did a disservice to Fitz by manufacturing that QB controversy. Different leaders lead in different ways, but the common denominator isn't Mullen, it's trust.
ETA: That was way longer than I intended. I'll never be the leader Rabbi is for I lack his knack for succinct pith.
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I'm not so sure about that. He's a great runner, but I'm not sure he's a good QB.
It's all beside the point. I feel like a broken record...
We shouldn't HAVE to bring Thompson in. We have a record setting quarterback and a 1000 yd rusher (and an even more talented rusher). If he's the offensive guru, he should be able to figure out how to score points with that talent.
Bringing in Thompson at this point is basically giving up on Moorhead. That would mean the talent is the problem. Maybe that's what needs to happen, but damn if it isn't depressing.
I was lead to believe that Moorhead is an offensive mind. That means innovation, evolution, etc. If he's just a guy with a system that works for a couple years IF you have the perfect players, then he was never there guy for the job.
We shouldn't HAVE to bring Thompson in. We have a record setting quarterback and a 1000 yd rusher (and an even more talented rusher). If he's the offensive guru, he should be able to figure out how to score points with that talent.
Bringing in Thompson at this point is basically giving up on Moorhead. That would mean the talent is the problem. Maybe that's what needs to happen, but damn if it isn't depressing.
I was lead to believe that Moorhead is an offensive mind. That means innovation, evolution, etc. If he's just a guy with a system that works for a couple years IF you have the perfect players, then he was never there guy for the job.
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