OL Michael Story suspended indefinitely

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aTotal360

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No details have been released, but...

 

maroonmania

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Yep, you can never feel confident about being too optimistic as a State fans. Dead Injun burial ground curse is always there lurking.
 

MSUDC11

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Yep, you can never feel confident about being too optimistic as a State fans. Dead Injun burial ground curse is always there lurking.

Story isn’t even a starter... it hurts for depth purposes, but chill. Not that big of a deal right now.
 

AlSwearengen

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17 him and kick his *** out of school. MS needs to put some teeth into these animal cruelty laws.
 

johnson86-1

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Story isn’t even a starter... it hurts for depth purposes, but chill. Not that big of a deal right now.

He's depth at a position where we don't have much depth and rather than paying homage to the burial ground, you just dared them to come back with a season ending injury to one of our starting guards.
 

MSUDC11

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Really stupid thing to do by Story, and he deserves some kind of suspension. But I don’t feel like this ends up being a terribly lengthy deal unless there is more to the story.
 

T-TownDawgg

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Disagree.

If the dog was in a locked car on a hot day an angry mob would have attacked him upon his arrival.

This is the same damn thing, just the extended version.

I truly believe that cruelty to animals is a strong indicator of what a person can really be capable of. POS.
 

johnson86-1

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Disagree.

If the dog was in a locked car on a hot day an angry mob would have attacked him upon his arrival.

This is the same damn thing, just the extended version.

I truly believe that cruelty to animals is a strong indicator of what a person can really be capable of. POS.

Leaving a dog in a hot car is likely to kill him. Leaving a dog in a room for a few days with food and water (I'm still skeptical that the person that turned him in knows whether he left food and water) is poor treatment but not as life threatening.

Also, there is a difference between active cruelty and neglect. Both are bad. But neglect is less disturbing. If you come from an environment where it's normal to keep a dog confined to one room, it's not as disturbing that you would keep your dog confined to a room.
 

TXDawg.sixpack

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Just read Brett Hudson's update. 17 him. Glad he's gone.

Here's the full story from The Dispatch:

http://www.cdispatch.com/sports/article.asp?aid=67927

I find it hard to believe that a Great Dane was left unattended in an apartment bedroom for 3 days. Could you imagine the smell and how wrecked that room would be? Heck, you'd smell it after 24 hours. Surely he had someone taking care of the dog and the neighbor didn't know about it.

That said, if he didn't have someone looking after the dog, there needs to be serious punishment.
 

pmack65

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It appears and from what I've been told, Coach Moor won't put up with any type indiscretions and by evidence of what punishment has been handed down to both Todd and Story it appears to be so. Personally I applaud him, as they you wanna do the crime then do the time.
 

MSUDawgFan86

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If the Story is true, No pun intended, he should be locked in a room for 3 days without food or water. Whatever he did to the dog should be done to him.
 

Wizard.sixpack

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If the Story is true, No pun intended, he should be locked in a room for 3 days without food or water. Whatever he did to the dog should be done to him.
Why? Are you saying that dog and human are equal? Surely not. YES It is a very selfish and CRUEL thing that he did but let's don't put humans and dogs on the same level.
 

coach66

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He should be punished because what he did was wrong but let's not go

overboard here. Our society keeps sliding toward zero tolerance for mistakes on every level, it's disturbing. As far as I know Story has a good track record and hasn't been
a problem but I could be wrong.
 

AlCoDog

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Has it been proven he didn’t leave food or water, or have anyone coming over to let the dog out? Having a Great Dane in an apartment sound miserable to me in the first place, but to each his own i guess.
 
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Man, some of y’all are so soft. Make him run the stadium a few times and let’s move on.
 

wsjmsu75

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Why? Are you saying that dog and human are equal? Surely not. YES It is a very selfish and CRUEL thing that he did but let's don't put humans and dogs on the same level.

Of course they are not "equal". Humans should be held to a higher standard of behavior and responsibility than dogs or any other animals, especially their own pets.
 

MSUDawgFan86

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Why? Are you saying that dog and human are equal? Surely not. YES It is a very selfish and CRUEL thing that he did but let's don't put humans and dogs on the same level.

I can actually put dogs and humans on whatever level I think because it’s my opinion just like you can put them on whatever level you personally see fit. I put dogs above alot of humans. There are a lot of Humans that are worthless, sorry pieces of ****. They can help it. They learn right/wrong and can reason, etc. All humans aren’t “equal.” Some are great, outstanding people. Some are lowlife, drugged out POS that all they want to do is get high and game the system from welfare. Some humans are evil and want to commit murder, rape, terrorism, etc. I haven’t met very many dogs that are capable of that. Maybe you have. If this story is TRUE, I would throw his *** in a jail cell for 3 DAYS without food or water. IF THIS IS TRUE. A human knows better and should be held to a higher standard than to be cruel to a pet.
 

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It appears and from what I've been told, Coach Moor won't put up with any type indiscretions and by evidence of what punishment has been handed down to both Todd and Story it appears to be so. Personally I applaud him, as they you wanna do the crime then do the time.

Good.
 

mstateglfr

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Leaving a dog in a hot car is likely to kill him. Leaving a dog in a room for a few days with food and water (I'm still skeptical that the person that turned him in knows whether he left food and water) is poor treatment but not as life threatening.

Also, there is a difference between active cruelty and neglect. Both are bad. But neglect is less disturbing. If you come from an environment where it's normal to keep a dog confined to one room, it's not as disturbing that you would keep your dog confined to a room.

See, ive learned that animal cruelty can either be thru active abuse or passive neglect. Either way though, its cruelty. So neglect is a form of cruelty.
That may seem like parsing words, but i view it as important since any cruelty, be it abuse or neglect, is horrible and should not be tolerated.

Leaving a dog locked in a room without access to food or water could be seen as abusive or neglectful and depends on the motives and knowledge of the owner.

Getting back to this- assuming all this is accurate, he needs to be convicted/agree to legal punishment and not be allowed to own an animal in the state of Mississippi for a period of 5 years. He also needs to attend mandatory animal counseling/education for a predetermined period of time.


Also- if you come from an environment where a dog is confined to 1 room, then you come from an environment where dogs shouldnt be. Pretty simple.
 

mstateglfr

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Why? Are you saying that dog and human are equal? Surely not. YES It is a very selfish and CRUEL thing that he did but let's don't put humans and dogs on the same level.

Animals and humans arent on the same level, but when you take responsibility for an animal as a pet, there are expectations of care and those expectations should come with legal ramifications for ignoring/breaking them.

Withholding food and water from a person for 3 days is extreme. It should be used as a visualization though to express how obviously neglectful and dangerous the actions were. And then a legal penalty and education should be enforced to help ensure correction and continued compliance.
 

horshack.sixpack

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Why? Are you saying that dog and human are equal? Surely not. YES It is a very selfish and CRUEL thing that he did but let's don't put humans and dogs on the same level.
This may draw some ire. Lot's of folks put animals above humans these days...
 

johnson86-1

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See, ive learned that animal cruelty can either be thru active abuse or passive neglect. Either way though, its cruelty. So neglect is a form of cruelty.
That may seem like parsing words, but i view it as important since any cruelty, be it abuse or neglect, is horrible and should not be tolerated.
That's fine, but that doesn't change the fact that there is a different issue between somebody being actively cruel versus being negletful.

Also, I think people on here may be showing their bubble. Affluent people generally tend to treat their pets very well. But even among reasonably affluent people, I've known people that kenneled their dog during the day. I've known people that keep their (big) dogs in apartments where they only get to come out for a quick bathroom break in the morning and right after work most days. I've known people that kept their dog in their laundry/utility room during the day. I've known people that kept their dog in a small portion of their house for multiple days, either with or without people coming over to let them out for bathroom breaks.

I'm not real happy with any of those situations and some of them seem borderline cruel to me. But on the flip side, I don't have a dog because I couldn't do better, and if everybody acted like me, most of those dogs would have been put to sleep rather than having whatever life they're having.
 

ezsoil

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This may draw some ire. Lot's of folks put animals above humans these days...
This is true...when in fact animals are property in the eyes of the law (hence the ability to buy and sell like any other piece of property) .the animal cruelty laws focus on the behavior of the human and are purely an emotional issue ...no different than abortion...some see abortion as killing others see it as a right. These are moral issues and should not be legislated.

None of of us know whether there was food and water left...while I think it's stupid to have a large dog
in an apartment, if he is boarded at a kennel is that really that much better? Putting the dog in a cage for a few days is ok but leaving him in a bigger room that the dog is used to is a crime?
 
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