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mstateglfr

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This is true...when in fact animals are property in the eyes of the law (hence the ability to buy and sell like any other piece of property) .the animal cruelty laws focus on the behavior of the human and are purely an emotional issue ...no different than abortion...some see abortion as killing others see it as a right. These are moral issues and should not be legislated.

None of of us know whether there was food and water left...while I think it's stupid to have a large dog
in an apartment, if he is boarded at a kennel is that really that much better? Putting the dog in a cage for a few days is ok but leaving him in a bigger room that the dog is used to is a crime?

Laws surrounding use of property are not necessarily emotionally based. They can be socially based as in ehat society deems acceptable.
Property laws which lack emotion are created all the time- grass below a certain height. No cars on front lawn. Etc. These are, like laws having to do with animal property, based on how a society wants to be and what it values.
Sure, it can be argued that values are based on emotion, but it isnt the emotion of an individual, its the emotion of a society so it is moreso a social act.

Im not even gping near the abortion comment- that shots outta left field.

As for boarding a dog, yes it is significantly better than locking it in a bedroom without food or water for 3-7 days.
I can't believe I had to just clarify this to an adult.
 

HamSammich

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Surely you wouldn’t be jumping to conclusions...... Why don’t we wait until everything comes out and then cast judgement
 

TheStateUofMS

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I can actually put dogs and humans on whatever level I think because it’s my opinion just like you can put them on whatever level you personally see fit. I put dogs above alot of humans. There are a lot of Humans that are worthless, sorry pieces of ****. They can help it. They learn right/wrong and can reason, etc. All humans aren’t “equal.” Some are great, outstanding people. Some are lowlife, drugged out POS that all they want to do is get high and game the system from welfare. Some humans are evil and want to commit murder, rape, terrorism, etc. I haven’t met very many dogs that are capable of that. Maybe you have. If this story is TRUE, I would throw his *** in a jail cell for 3 DAYS without food or water. IF THIS IS TRUE. A human knows better and should be held to a higher standard than to be cruel to a pet.


Dogs lack the strength in their opposable thumbs*
 
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RPOdawg

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This has to be the biggest snowflake thread ever

Bingo. When I served overseas I saw families eat their pet dogs for dinner because that was the only option they had. You’ll have to forgive me for not feeling sorry for a dog who sat on a bed in the AC for 3 days without food and water.
 

DoomSlayer

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This is true...when in fact animals are property in the eyes of the law (hence the ability to buy and sell like any other piece of property) .the animal cruelty laws focus on the behavior of the human and are purely an emotional issue ...no different than abortion...some see abortion as killing others see it as a right. These are moral issues and should not be legislated.

None of of us know whether there was food and water left...while I think it's stupid to have a large dog
in an apartment, if he is boarded at a kennel is that really that much better? Putting the dog in a cage for a few days is ok but leaving him in a bigger room that the dog is used to is a crime?

By far one of the worst takes I've ever seen. It isn't often someone argues for making animal abuse legal but I guess you decided to fill that niche.
 

mstateglfr

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Bingo. When I served overseas I saw families eat their pet dogs for dinner because that was the only option they had. You’ll have to forgive me for not feeling sorry for a dog who sat on a bed in the AC for 3 days without food and water.

Pretty low bar you have in life.
Again- societies dictate how pets are viewed. The more advanced and well off a society is, the more pets are protected by law.

Dogs have been domesticated for 15000 years now. Even centuries ago, when people died by the millions due to plagues and buried in mass graves, dogs were valued by the well off and even buried at death.
This is hardly a snowflake topic- animal abuse/neglect is hardly something that is only cared about by snowflakes. Nobody in an advanced society should be OK with a dog locked in a room without food or water for 3 days, much less 7 days.

This isnt like we are arguing if its abusive for a dog to live outside or something like that. 3 days without water is really not good for a big dog. And saying its not good is an understatement. 7 days without water?...thats severe dehydration and possible permanent damage to some organs, if they live.
Read up on this
 

ShrubDog

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Man, some of y’all are so soft. Make him run the stadium a few times and let’s move on.

You have definitely caught my attention this week. Soft is leaving a dog unwatered and not fed. The mentality behind such an act is disturbing.

It would really suck if this happened to Bully.
 

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I can actually put dogs and humans on whatever level I think because it’s my opinion just like you can put them on whatever level you personally see fit. I put dogs above alot of humans. There are a lot of Humans that are worthless, sorry pieces of ****. They can help it. They learn right/wrong and can reason, etc. All humans aren’t “equal.” Some are great, outstanding people. Some are lowlife, drugged out POS that all they want to do is get high and game the system from welfare. Some humans are evil and want to commit murder, rape, terrorism, etc. I haven’t met very many dogs that are capable of that. Maybe you have. If this story is TRUE, I would throw his *** in a jail cell for 3 DAYS without food or water. IF THIS IS TRUE. A human knows better and should be held to a higher standard than to be cruel to a pet.

It's not matter of opinion, it is a matter of fact. Dogs are not above humans period. Does that mean we treat them like crap and abuse them? Of course not but too many people today are treating them like they are human and I think it is ridiculous.
 

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You have definitely caught my attention this week. Soft is leaving a dog unwatered and not fed. The mentality behind such an act is disturbing.

It would really suck if this happened to Bully.

Just ask Southern Miss.
 

MSUDawgFan86

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It's not matter of opinion, it is a matter of fact. Dogs are not above humans period. Does that mean we treat them like crap and abuse them? Of course not but too many people today are treating them like they are human and I think it is ridiculous.

Cool story. I don’t really care what you think is ridiculous or what you think facts are. I put my dog above you. He’s a member of the family.
 

MSUDawgFan86

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Some serious emotions in this thread. Feel like I’m reading [email protected]
Bless your tender hearted hearts.

Are You seriously trying to make fun of someone for being angry about mistreating a pet tough guy? How about I lock you in a room for 3 days without food or water and see how your *** tolerates it? You’d be crying like a ***** before day 2.
 

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I had a friend that went viral on FB when some woman snapped a picture of him & his dog at a truck stop in Birmingham. Middle of summer, he stopped to go in and take a piss, put the dog in a cage in the back of his truck --- I guess since he couldn't exactly take the dog inside, and didn't want to leave his truck running with the dog inside alone. So she posts a few pictures claiming the guy was torturing his dog by putting it in a cage in the back of his truck during the summer with no water or food.

Dude was getting death threats because he left his dog in a cage in the back of his truck for 5 minutes.
 

MSUDawgFan86

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Bingo. When I served overseas I saw families eat their pet dogs for dinner because that was the only option they had. You’ll have to forgive me for not feeling sorry for a dog who sat on a bed in the AC for 3 days without food and water.

Ok? You want a medal? You served in a 3rd world **** hole and you’re gonna base how a pet should be treated by what you saw in a country with the lowest forms of humanity? They blow each other up too. I guess you are cool with that. It would Just be a Tuesday in your life right?
 

Wizard.sixpack

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Cool story. I don’t really care what you think is ridiculous or what you think facts are. I put my dog above you. He’s a member of the family.

Evidently you care enough to respond to what I have to say....LMAO unless your wife birthed your dog(Which I guess could be possible in your case) He is NOT a member of your family.

What is your stance on homeless people? Do you give a 17 about them? OR are you too busy being obsessed with your four-legged family member?
 
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drumrcraig

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So the standard for defining a family is they have to be birthed from our wife? So are adopted children not part of the family because they weren't birthed from our wife?? Sorry you have no ability to have affection towards a pet. I don't own a pet at all, but I understand what people mean when they say their pet is a member of the family.
 

mstateglfr

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I had a friend that went viral on FB when some woman snapped a picture of him & his dog at a truck stop in Birmingham. Middle of summer, he stopped to go in and take a piss, put the dog in a cage in the back of his truck --- I guess since he couldn't exactly take the dog inside, and didn't want to leave his truck running with the dog inside alone. So she posts a few pictures claiming the guy was torturing his dog by putting it in a cage in the back of his truck during the summer with no water or food.

Dude was getting death threats because he left his dog in a cage in the back of his truck for 5 minutes.

Well thats just an insane scenario. Its taken out of context and the outraged woman was incorrect.

...that example has 0 to do with the topic at hand.
 

mstateglfr

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Evidently you care enough to respond to what I have to say....LMAO unless your wife birthed your dog(Which I guess could be possible in your case) He is NOT a member of your family.

What is your stance on homeless people? Do you give a 17 about them? OR are you too busy being obsessed with your four-legged family member?

So much dumb in that bolded comment.

Family isnt literally who pops out of a wife's birth canal.

adopted kids.
step kids.
foster kids.
aunts and uncles who are lifelong friends of parents and closer than relatives.


All are family.

I get your attempt at a point, but it was a bad attempt.
 

MSUDawgFan86

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Evidently you care enough to respond to what I have to say....LMAO unless your wife birthed your dog(Which I guess could be possible in your case) He is NOT a member of your family.

What is your stance on homeless people? Do you give a 17 about them? OR are you too busy being obsessed with your four-legged family member?

17 you’re dumb. Do us all a favor and don’t have kids.
 

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Ok? You want a medal? You served in a 3rd world **** hole and you’re gonna base how a pet should be treated by what you saw in a country with the lowest forms of humanity? They blow each other up too. I guess you are cool with that. It would Just be a Tuesday in your life right?

Be careful with that “**** hole” country comment. While I agree, I’ve seen good men raked over the coals for such a comment.
 
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RPOdawg

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overboard here. Our society keeps sliding toward zero tolerance for mistakes on every level, it's disturbing. As far as I know Story has a good track record and hasn't been
a problem but I could be wrong.

Naw man let’s bury him
Alive!!!!
 

Son_of_34

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Ok? You want a medal? You served in a 3rd world **** hole and you’re gonna base how a pet should be treated by what you saw in a country with the lowest forms of humanity? They blow each other up too. I guess you are cool with that. It would Just be a Tuesday in your life right?

But what’s your stance on kneeling for the National anthen?
 

Upyurs

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Anyone who "puts their dog" over another human being is a cold SOB. I understand loving an animal but it doesn't come before the comfort or well being of a person.
 

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Love the crowd who is say "stop jumping to conclusions" and making comments about mob mentality.

Y'all dumbasses are probably the first ones to jump on a story about ole miss or hugh freeze. Y'all are probably the ones that share stupid Facebook post about the opposite political party.

The people in charge of investigating and giving punishment need to keep quiet until all the facts or out. This is a message board. We discuss things.

People just say that because it's one of our own. Well I'm not going to sit here and talk about places like Ohio state and ole miss and not do the same for us.

If he left the dog locked up without food or water for 4 days, he's probably a piece of **** and needs to be kicked off the team. At best he's too stupid to trust when the game is on the line ..just kick him off. POS or stupid, needs to be gone either way.

If more to the story is out there, I am ok with changing my opinion then.
 

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Just ask Southern Miss.

Yeah, didn’t the eagle’s handler go home for Thanksgiving and come back to find the bird was dead?

We have to keep in mind that these young people are in the part of their lives where they do dumb things.
If I remember correctly the human brain’s logic and reasoning centers (prefrontal cortex) aren’t fully developed until age 25.

That’s why 18-23 year old’s make good combat soldiers. Tell a 20-year old to grab a rifle and run over that hill, you’ll get a very different response than if he’s 35, 45, 55, whatever.

At 18-22 they don’t always think things all the way through.
 

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That’s not even really the point here. That aspect only came up because somebody said the abuser/neglecter should have to go without food & water as punishment. Then, another poster misconstrued this as putting animals on the “same level” as humans, which is not necessarily what the suggestor of that idea meant.
 
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