Let's just stop singing the national anthem

[West Tn Dawg]

I'm done with the idiots!
Don't watch much anyway, but I will not watch or buy anything NFL related ever again.
I hope the league folds and all them idiots go slap *** broke!

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

For as big of idiot as a bunch seem to think Trump is...

- Go off on protests in the NFL
- More protests
- Ratings decline
- Trump mocks the ratings decline
- Protesters lose their minds
- Ratings plummet
= Trump wins.

He's played them for fools.

I do agree that it's not serving any greater purpose on either side, and he should stay out of it. But it's not his style. Just rousing more and more tension toward a real breaking point with no end in sight.

That's what semi-concerns me. What is the end game for all this ****.

 

[RocketDawg]

Alejandro makes you want to rush out and buy USAA insurance. Seems to be the ideal sports professional and family man. Appearances can be deceiving but I don't think so in this case.

 

[RiverCityDawg]

Plus let's face it, that is exactly how Kaepernik meant his protest. He hates America. He wants to blame all Americans for the acts of a few. He talked in support of a despot who has murdered many people with opposing views.

This is my problem with it. The original act was 100% anti-American. Kapernick was doing it to dishonor this country because of what he thinks this country stands for. I believe players have the right to protest and of course speak out against what they see as racial inequality, but doing it the way of Kapernick only creates more division. It would be like someone trying to use the rebel flag as a sign of unity... People just aren't going to see it that way because of what it's been used for in the past and the emotions it stirs when people see it.

No one has an issue with locking arms. Why not just do that? Many are, but that should be a way to show unity that ALL players can agree on. No need to kneel and create more division.

 

[Sack N City]

The truth: "America is the least racist white-majority society in theworld; has a better record of legal protection of minorities than any other society,white or black; offers more opportunities to a greater number of black personsthan any other society, including all those of Africa." --Orlando Patterson



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyx85IyZ5s8




“There is anotherclass of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, thewrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learnedthat they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown intothe settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they wantsympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negroto lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.” <o></o>


― Booker T.Washington<o></o>

 

[11thEagleFan]

Please delete this **** post. For a political thread, things were going relatively good.

Somewhat related, just found out Alejandro Villanueva is a Mississippi native. Makes me proud.

 

[KurtRambis4]

1/2 (or more) of his teammates

would likely fold up if they had to be deployed in an combat unit, living on a FOB for half the year, waking up to incoming mortars daily, not knowing whether they were going to lose a limb (or life) every single step they took. Americans are so damn coddled.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

The one Steeler player was Alejandro Villanueva, a former Army Ranger who served in Afghanistan. They were at Soldier Field today. Classless "protest."

AND they lost to my terrible Bears... so who benefited in the end?

 

[RocketDawg]

Please delete this **** post. For a political thread, things were going relatively good.

Somewhat related, just found out Alejandro Villanueva is a Mississippi native. Makes me proud.

Looked him up on Wikipedia, and you're right. I had no idea. And he's from my hometown. Dad and or Mom must've been in the Navy. He's also HUGE ... 6-9, 320. Did he play FB at Meridian?

 

[57stratdawg]

Has Kaepernik ever said “the reason I kneel is because I hate America”? I feel like we use a lot of things to interpret his actions, but his words aren’t usually one of them.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Kap is accomplishing 2 things. 1) He has united the right like few others could. 2) He is weakening the financial base of a fairly liberal organization that has paid a bunch of minority guys, with barely entry level skills in the real world, millions of dollars. As the NFL product is slowly destroyed out of sheer stupidity at some point salaries will go down. The legitimacy of his cause in the end will pale by the damage he has done.

 

[57stratdawg]

I think he’s raised quite a bit of awareness around his message. It’s been arguably the largest story line around America’s most popular sport for nearly 2 years now.

 

[Dawg1976]

No. Just born there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alejandro_Villanueva_(American_football)

 

[Dawg1976]

I quit watching NFL football years ago but started watching a little again just last year. Wanted to watch Dak play some. But I'm done again. Sports is for entertainment and a way to get away from political BS you see day in day out in the news media. Now it's in sports. I won't participate.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Oh he's definitely raised my awareness and for that I am very grateful .

 

[BossDawg78]

would likely fold up if they had to be deployed in an combat unit, living on a FOB for half the year, waking up to incoming mortars daily, not knowing whether they were going to lose a limb (or life) every single step they took. Americans are so damn coddled.

Indeed. They are a bunch of ungrateful drama queens. I'd imagine the majority of them don't even know what they're "protesting", they are just trying to stir up controversy and get attention.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Chaos and anarchy are the endgame.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

I think he’s raised quite a bit of awareness around his message. It’s been arguably the largest story line around America’s most popular sport for nearly 2 years now.

What is his message again? Must not be all that transparent

 

[BoomBoom.sixpack]

So many thoughts on this. First, I fully support players exercising their First Amendment rights. I do not agree with this form of protest, but I support their right to do it. However, that means that owners are free to take whatever actions they see fit. If it's about racial injustice, protesting the national anthem is a very STUPID way to go about it. Do these players not realize that African Americans make up a disproportionately large number of our armed forces? They disrespect those brave men and women every time they take a knee. Second, our president is not exactly a calming presence during these times. Wish he had a more measured approach to some things. Lastly, police use of force needs a complete overhaul. HOWEVER, most of the high profile cases in the news have been "good shoots." The one in Minnesota was deplorable, and I would have had no problem with convicting that officer of 2nd degree murder. Police officers have their guns in their hands way too often, and I say this as someone who has law enforcement experience. At the same time, there are many people who think that it's okay to physically resist an officer in their duties. Don't do that. Don't ever do that. Rant over.

Good post. I dont see it as disrespect though. I see it as "tough love". As "hey, America, I love you, but on this you need to open your eyes to your destructive behavior and get better." let's not forget that its not just the policing problem, its that the problem itself is massively denied, that African Americans are "gaslighted" about it, that groups like BLM are successfully portrayed as extremists so that African American speech is suppressed.

Most of the "high profile good shoots" have not been fairly investigated, which calls into question whether they were good shoots at all to begin with.

And yes, physical resistance is never a good idea. But lets not lump the very human reaction of pulling back and saying "wait, what, im under arrest?" with physical resistance, as I see many do. Eric Garner. Part of our reform of use of force needs to be training cops to give people a moment to process that they are under arrest, and stop treating those that pull back in shock the same as those that take a swing.

 

[turkish]

Chaos and anarchy are the endgame.

+1. This country is on its way out. See ya, NFL.

 

[tatedog]

Today is a day that reminds us all what America is all about: one group of rich ******** playing another group of rich ******** to make the regular folks forget how they are both screwing us over.

 

[mount lefroy]

It's turned into a damn joke. Pathetic

Dear God. If someone doesn’t agree with you and the govt can’t shoot them for it, either thank a soldier you live in America or move to a place that does shoot them.

Either way shut the **** up.

 

[BossDawg78]

So everything every president says is devisive? Cause that's kinda how it goes. Millions agree and millions disagree.

But, you see, it's different with Trump because.......it's ok for other presidents to say "divisive" things because......see.......because Trump is a meanie weanie who is responsible for everyone else acting like idiots. That's why.