Ole Miss Could Lose Accreditation

[engie]

I agree, and I would probably enjoy living in Starkville. But I will also say what you've identified as 'pervasive' is mostly limited to incoming freshmen in my experience. The people I live with and work with everyday are more tempered and honest about OM and Oxford.

Did those people feel it was logically comprehensible that you became the best non-traditional power recruiting school in the country for a couple of years there? Did they feel like that was your logical place on the totem pole or something fishy was going on?

See -- I basically only hang out with what would be called "logical" OM fans. They call a spade a spade on the field and generally can see it coming well in advance. They are basically all collectively hung up on the questions I now ask you though, with grove/town justifications in advance on Tunsil, et al when I called this investigation exactly what it is in 2013 on here. http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/showthread.php?111839-Hearing Now, they are convinced on the witch hunt narrative and that they aren't doing anything that the rest of the country isn't, while MSU is actually going to fry for Leo Lewis, who we knew early on was probably going to State. It's a strange phenomenon to me.

 

[fishwater99]

TTRams

Is that your wife or girlfriend in your avatar? Nice sixpack..

 

[JungRebel]

The people I talk to say pretty much what I have said here, that it is never good to have the NCAA on campus and you can never infer from their precedents and know what they are going to do. But none of us have any connection to the athletic department. I don't interact with students very often. I never interact with the fringes of NAFOOM either, but I see a more fatalistic attitude among most of them. (Some are still holding out hope for an out or retribution.) I am hoping we get roughly what's been self imposed, but I again am not really following it until the COI meets.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Don't know how to answer that, but the ACT thing is criminal. Miami got off with a 1 year bowl ban and a bunch of schollies in the 90's, but there were criminal cases. I really have no idea how that relates.

Here are some quotes from the article .."It may not be Powe that they go after, but there are sure to be several examples of kids that got ACT scores in Wayne County that would, otherwise, be ruled academically ineligible. If these kids went to school on anything besides an academic scholarship, there’s a problem."

"This opens them up to misappropriation of both State and Federal funds. You can’t set a player up with Pell Grants who is not eligible to be admitted to your school."

"If Ole Miss has been aiding in setting up financial aid for ineligible students, that could get SACS involved, which could lead to an investigation that could cost Ole Miss their accreditation."

 

[engie]

Government will rue the day

 

[BiscuitEater]

nice light reading

After I read all 3, I see more how all the 'moving parts' are interwoven. Sadly, the vast majority of bear fanbase are convinced that the NCAA is only doing this because they became good at recruiting and they beat Bama twice.

Most intriguing insight was this nugget .. "So why would they (Ole Miss) not fight for Wiggins, but they’ll go into war with the NCAA for Hugh Freeze?

Easy – Freeze knows where the bodies are buried."

 

[BlueRidgeMtns]

agreed. The 3 pieces really tie it all together.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Engie .. thanks for the link. That thread is a 'time capsule' into the start of NCAA involvement. Rebs were/continue to be in denial. One good to already come out of the NOA .. SPS has LOST a whole group of OM posters ..

TSUNBearHunter
Rebearz
tuku 2
RebFan
Red Victory
rebeljim
Reb101
FormerlyHighLifeRebel
Optimus Prime 4
RockstarFromMars
Firecaptain4
RebFan posted this gem ..
There is no investigation by the NCAA anyway, but your "insiders" got about 2 more weeks to leak the goods. During the season the sports writers and bloggers will be too busy with the season, and real news. Fling that poop faster!!!! You're running out of time

 

[codeDawg]

For all you twaters out there. Give Gary Segars a shout out for his work: https://twitter.com/proseveregary?lang=en

Also, retweet, like, comment, etc:

<blockquote><p>We go in depth into why Ole Miss has no other choice but to back Freeze... or he could take down the whole school. <a href="https://t.co/dwiAaRqJkc">https://t.co/dwiAaRqJkc</a></p>— Gary Segars (@proseveregary) <a href="https://twitter.com/proseveregary/status/837695507900346373">March 3, 2017</a></blockquote>

 

[MaroonNation]

Going all in when there is hard evidence is what is not clever. Like the other guy said, the leadership is failing at this point. Should have self-imposed the bowl ban in Feb. 2016 for the 2016 season, then self-imposed another after this latest NOA, and it probably all goes away. I know that first bowl ban would have been incredibly tough to self-impose at that time, as you were expected to be good. But Louisville basketball did it last year, and it's expected that it will pay dividends for them when the committee rules.

Remember that the Auburn case had a lack of evidence, and the 'daddy' rule or whatever it was.

My question is, what exactly is it that Ole Miss expects to 'beat'? The only thing is that maybe they can pin it all on the assistant coaches and keep Freeze.

This won't "go away" till Freezus is forced out. Don't kid yourself. If your administration won't do it voluntarily then that is the worst possible thing your administration will have done in all this.

 

[bulldognation]

I suppose that's why the info they have (i.e. Leo tape, etc) is so nuclear that it would take down the SEC and all of college football.

Or are they just in so deep with their own mess that they know Hugh can dictate whether he stays or leaves. He has a looong history of arrangements with the OM folks. There's no doubt in my mind that he was brought on board for just that reason. It's easy to be a 'gifted recruiter' when the boosters are gifting recruits.

 

[mount lefroy]

It's meant to be ironic, like Starkvegas.

The hell it is

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

If unc didn't get rung up for setting up an entire academic department dedicated to free passes, how in the world will tsun lose anything?

Big difference. UNC is an elite, "protected" school. oliemiss is just a small mid-major with questionable academics and an inferior fan base, that is the perfect patsy for the NCAA to hammer and HAMMER HARD!

When the NCAA is through with olimesiiss, they'll be more sore than a Hooker after Fleet Week.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

What does a jersey with 'Starkvegas' and '17 TSUN' written on it in various neon colors reflect? What 'preoccupation'? I have never argued that there are not OM fans who are idiots that take the image too far, but I have never met an Ole Miss fan who treats the university as a literal 1:1 replica of Harvard. The point was that exaggeration is not quarantined in Oxford.

On the other hand, I've never seen an olemiss fan who's been fired from his job by fans of The Mississippi State University for their school affiliation.....there's plenty of State fans who've been Lynched from their jobs by Rebel fans for being fans of The Mississippi State University.

 

[JungRebel]

As I've said, that post was a joke and whether or not those expressions are serious or ironic is in the mouth of the idiot or sane person saying or printing them (with '17 TSUN') on a t-shirt or jersey.

 

[JungRebel]

If you say so, I wouldn't know one way or the other. I imagine there would be Bear lawyers willing to take their case.

 

[stateu1]

Surely Powe was on academic scholarship**

Here are some quotes from the article .."It may not be Powe that they go after, but there are sure to be several examples of kids that got ACT scores in Wayne County that would, otherwise, be ruled academically ineligible. If these kids went to school on anything besides an academic scholarship, there’s a problem."

"This opens them up to misappropriation of both State and Federal funds. You can’t set a player up with Pell Grants who is not eligible to be admitted to your school."

"If Ole Miss has been aiding in setting up financial aid for ineligible students, that could get SACS involved, which could lead to an investigation that could cost Ole Miss their accreditation."

 

[mount lefroy]

As I've said, that post was a joke and whether or not those expressions are serious or ironic is in the mouth of the idiot or sane person saying or printing them (with '17 TSUN') on a t-shirt or jersey.

Starkvegas started as a tonge in cheek reference by those outside Msu as sort of a put down and we flipped the script and embraced it. . Om stated for years in their media guide that their colors were Harvard red and Yale blue.

It's not that I find you dishonest about it. It's that om wanted an image for years that many, like yourself tend to find forgettable.

 

[T-TownDawgg]

Thanks for sharing that, code. Don't do social media.

Holy jeez this goes from bad to terrible to horrible to My God just bomb the 17ing human trafficking organized crime ring.

Drebin's post about how terrible this regime is was spot on. Exploiting kids just to put talent in your school's jerseys is tantamount to the worst kind of human behavior. How in the hell can Freezus talk the Lord smack knowing he is squeezing the talent out of these young men and throwing them back out into society, and he can't read. Piece. Of. ****.

 

[coach66]

The whole Powe thing had me shaking my head at the time. I couldn't come to

grips with how they could possibly get him eligible. Certainly Powe is a great guy and benefited greatly from his time at Ole Miss and
is a much better person today for it but it's a stretch to believe he was there legit.

 

[JungRebel]

It's a fair point that OM has historically had those ambitions, including when the town was named Oxford.

 

[HD6]

That thread is freaking priceless.

 

[engie]

I've got more threads like that saved for a rainy day. But it takes a lot of the punch away when all of the offending parties scurried away and have never been back to take ownership on any of the things they said along the way. Yet they are still prognosticating away over on Nafoom and have the insider scoop now tho 4 realz.

I have respect for Jung because he still shows up. He's literally the only one.