Ole Miss Could Lose Accreditation

codeDawg

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Okay, so maybe click bait subject, but hear this out.

This article lays out a case that says UM is backing Freeze because he knows where the bodies are buried as it relates to Powe getting Pell grants at UM which could result in them losing their accreditation.

I don't know about the Freeze defense, but something is up with the secrecy of this investigation beyond just controlling the message. Maybe there is smoke? If not, why all the cloak and daggers?

http://winningcureseverything.com/hugh-freeze-why-is-ole-miss-standing-with-him-against-the-ncaa/

[insert black helicopter here]
 

BulldogBlitz

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If unc didn't get rung up for setting up an entire academic department dedicated to free passes, how in the world will tsun lose anything?
 

codeDawg

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If unc didn't get rung up for setting up an entire academic department dedicated to free passes, how in the world will tsun lose anything?

Don't know how to answer that, but the ACT thing is criminal. Miami got off with a 1 year bowl ban and a bunch of schollies in the 90's, but there were criminal cases. I really have no idea how that relates.
 

LTblows

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Has any state D1 school ever lost accreditation? Particularly any P5 school? Not happening.
 

TTRams

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I believe accreditation risk is with The Southern Association of Colleges and

Schools’ Commission on Colleges. Not the NCAA

The University of Mississippi is accredited by the Commission on Colleges of the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools [1866 Southern Lane, Decatur, Georgia 30033-4097; telephone (404) 679-4501] to award baccalaureate, master’s, specialist, first professional, and doctoral programs.

If you click around THE SACS COC site you will see schools in various statuses ..... "For further information regarding SACSCOC Board sanctions, see the Commission’s policy“Sanctions, Denial of Reaffirmation, and Removal from Membership"

http://www.sacscoc.org/june2016actionsanddisclosurestatements.asp

IMO
 

tatedog

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Why all the cloak and daggers? Because when everything finally comes to light, Ole Miss is going to be humiliated on a level not seen since SMU. Paychecks will still be collected until such time. As far as accreditation goes, unless something far more sinister than what has already been revealed shows up, I doubt they are in any danger. I don't think ULL lost anything with their ACT malfeasance. That being said, accrediting agencies have in the past taken a keen eye towards schools that just happened to be undergoing NCAA probes. Auburn in the post Pat Dye era flirted with some accrediting issues, but proving a connection would be difficult.
 

codeDawg

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Schools’ Commission on Colleges. Not the NCAA

The University of Mississippi is accredited by the Commission on Colleges of the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools [1866 Southern Lane, Decatur, Georgia 30033-4097; telephone (404) 679-4501] to award baccalaureate, master’s, specialist, first professional, and doctoral programs.

If you click around THE SACS COC site you will see schools in various statuses ..... "For further information regarding SACSCOC Board sanctions, see the Commission’s policy“Sanctions, Denial of Reaffirmation, and Removal from Membership"

http://www.sacscoc.org/june2016actionsanddisclosurestatements.asp

IMO

This is correct. Now, I don't actually believe accreditation is at risk, but something more than some football sanctions are being protected. No school has EVER gone to such lengths to hide what is happening the way Ole Miss has. You have to assume they either think the death penalty is a possibility, or something much worse that could affect the institution with the rumors around Pell grants and lobbiests.
 

DudyDog

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That is a very interesting read that needs to find its way to some national writers.
 

EngDawg

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Why all the cloak and daggers? Because when everything finally comes to light, Ole Miss is going to be humiliated on a level not seen since SMU. Paychecks will still be collected until such time. As far as accreditation goes, unless something far more sinister than what has already been revealed shows up, I doubt they are in any danger. I don't think ULL lost anything with their ACT malfeasance. That being said, accrediting agencies have in the past taken a keen eye towards schools that just happened to be undergoing NCAA probes. Auburn in the post Pat Dye era flirted with some accrediting issues, but proving a connection would be difficult.

RICO?
 

DancingRabbit

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Very thorough, especially when including Part 1 & 2. Wayne Count expose coming

next he says.

Gonna be worse than USC got.
 
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I'm starting to think that this investigation is a bad look for the NCAA, as well as ACT test prep instructors across America. They will most certainly all being rueing from now until the end of time.
 

JungRebel

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Well of course neither is meant to be ironic for those who *mean* them, but those people are idiots. Those of us with adequate notions of Harvard, Las Vegas, Ole Miss, and Starkville have different impressions of those expressions.

(The post you replied to is a joke.)
 

JungRebel

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I cringe when I see those, but, as has been said, Ole Miss is all in. Just not as smart or clever as Auburn.
 

coach66

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You're a good guy, I feel for you right now and for the next several years. The

leadership at your University is failing you terribly.
 

T-TownDawgg

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True. The difference is Starkville community embraced a self-deprecating humorous term made popular by locals.

Harvard of the South reflects the ole miss shallow-elitist-self-image preoccupation by people who incessantly refresh "The Grove" insta-face account to keep count of the "likes"
 

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leadership at your University is failing you terribly.

This has baffled me since the first NOA came out, but more so the second (or amended if that is what it is) NOA came out. How has someone in the true leadership of that university, or this state for that matter, not stepped up and said enough is enough. I am amazed OM has not literally cleaned house from the AD down to the football offices. It is truly amazing to watch as this strings along.
 

Hoover Dawg

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Going all in when there is hard evidence is what is not clever. Like the other guy said, the leadership is failing at this point. Should have self-imposed the bowl ban in Feb. 2016 for the 2016 season, then self-imposed another after this latest NOA, and it probably all goes away. I know that first bowl ban would have been incredibly tough to self-impose at that time, as you were expected to be good. But Louisville basketball did it last year, and it's expected that it will pay dividends for them when the committee rules.

Remember that the Auburn case had a lack of evidence, and the 'daddy' rule or whatever it was.

My question is, what exactly is it that Ole Miss expects to 'beat'? The only thing is that maybe they can pin it all on the assistant coaches and keep Freeze.
 

codeDawg

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This has baffled me since the first NOA came out, but more so the second (or amended if that is what it is) NOA came out. How has someone in the true leadership of that university, or this state for that matter, not stepped up and said enough is enough. I am amazed OM has not literally cleaned house from the AD down to the football offices. It is truly amazing to watch as this strings along.

This is why I think it's bigger than football. If losing all credibility and developing a reputation as a school that cheats and fights back when they get caught is just about sparing Hugh Freeze and the football program, these guys have completely lost it.
 

JungRebel

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What does a jersey with 'Starkvegas' and '17 TSUN' written on it in various neon colors reflect? What 'preoccupation'? I have never argued that there are not OM fans who are idiots that take the image too far, but I have never met an Ole Miss fan who treats the university as a literal 1:1 replica of Harvard. The point was that exaggeration is not quarantined in Oxford.
 
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JungRebel

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I have no idea. I'm guessing LOIC and failure to monitor, but I haven't been keeping up with it. I'm taking the approach I take on signing day.
 

T-TownDawgg

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Just the toxicity. But i do agree with you; I would not wear such a shirt, any fanbase has some fanatics. Just my personal observation of the mindsets pervasive in both communities. Starkvillians don't take themselves too seriously. I can dislike a school or team without having 17 printed on it. No offense Jung.

But I do have a "Hey Hugh" shirt on the way.
 

JungRebel

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And mine was a clarification of 'they' and where such 'theys' can be found.

Thanks for nothing.
 

JungRebel

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I agree, and I would probably enjoy living in Starkville. But I will also say what you've identified as 'pervasive' is mostly limited to incoming freshmen in my experience. The people I live with and work with everyday are more tempered and honest about OM and Oxford.
 
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