Speaking of immunity....

[olblue.sixpack]

Three key differences though:
1. This recruiting class was better than that one.
2. Howland has put two solid classes together. That was Ray's only solid class and it was a gift from Stans.
3. Howland has a proven track record. Ray had zero track record.

Other than that, sure, it's the same.

Don't they have to produce to be considered solid? Peters and Kegler show some promise. Herard can be serviceable. But the others not so much.

Don't get me wrong, Ray was in over his head, but his last class had two nice players in Witherspoon and Brown.

 

[tenureplan]

I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you.

 

[KurtRambis4]

I'll take

one with Q, Lamar, and Nick.

 

[olblue.sixpack]

Well if we're being honest you won't be happy with any coach we have unless it's Stans back on the bench. It's clear you are quite butt hurt over him being gone.

Nope but I thought he was pretty good while we was at MSU.

 

[jdbulldog]

....how long does Howland get it?

He should get Rick Ray plus at least two additional years. Strick destroyed anything that was left of our BB program when he got Ray. Howland faced a MAJOR undertaking (pun intended) when he agreed to be our coach.

 

[Go Budaw]

That's the scuttlebutt. They could do a lot worse.

They must be going the Mississippi retread route with all their coaching hires these days. Strange basket to put all your eggs in. Wonder if they make a run at Pat McMahon if Maineri doesn't work out?

 

[ronpolk]

Look at howland's track record. Year 3 has typically been a break out year. I expect that next year here. But even if it's not, he gets 4 years in my opinion.

Did we not learn our lesson in moving in from quality coaches in basketball. Contrary to what some of you think, we are not Duke. If we can Howland we should just shut the program down.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

Why the 17 are you even here? You're a Kentucky fan who doesn't know **** about basketball and you're just a goddamned awful poster. You bring nothing to the table.

 

[olblue.sixpack]

Why the 17 are you even here? You're a Kentucky fan who doesn't know **** about basketball and you're just a goddamned awful poster. You bring nothing to the table.

Thanks for encouraging words.

 

[gymdawg.sixpack]

Wow we have some really ignorant fans.
So now we suck and wont win anymore and howland is on the hot seat and kegler is **** and we miss ready and stans is a god....did i miss anything from the bandwaggonners?

 

[gymdawg.sixpack]

Agreed!

 

[pmack65]

Those "multiple four year starters and Mcdonalds AA" would've been lucky to be second string on just about any other SEC team. Sorry but those guys tried hard but were talentless. Ware was the only one who should improvement but he couldn't jump. But y'all keep whining or bitching which ever you prefer, but come next year and the year after all you basketball coaching experts*** will be on the Howland train.

 

[pmack65]

Kind of like you're expert analysis****

 

[gymdawg.sixpack]

Then u know little about basketball. Stans teams underachieved just about every single season. We had sone great talent in the early 2000s that didnt even make 2nd rd. Alnost every yr we drug our feet until late feb then tried to make a run and throw it all together at the last minute. Problem is when we did actually make the dance we had no cohesiveness and were 4-7 spots farther back than we should have been playing much better competition.

 

[Shamoan]

Per espn ticker, this is the largest basketball loss to ole miss since 1951.....WOW. Two steps forward, one jump back. Wtf

 

[Shamoan]

Next year, they are going to be sophomores plus Q with another load of freshman. Is it fair to expect that much out of a handful of sophomores? Still think we are 2 years away at best when that class becomes juniors.

howland can recruit, but I don't think it's going to be a situation where they are coached to perform and he is able to get them to play smart team basketball with everyone giving exceptional effort on both sides of the ball.

 

[FlotownDawg]

I don't understand this team. They have too much talent to be blown out by 27 points by OM, no matter how young they are. They are 2/3 of the way through the season. They're not green freshmen anymore. No excuse for the effort (or lack thereof) displayed tonight, especially against your rival.

 

[mstateglfr]

Wow we have some really ignorant fans.
So now we suck and wont win anymore and howland is on the hot seat and kegler is **** and we miss ready and stans is a god....did i miss anything from the bandwaggonners?

Im waiting for Kegler to tap into all that potential. He is largely ineffective on both ends of the court and is at times a net negative.

 

[Reunion Dog]

Thanks to the male cheerleader from jackson prep... he set our basketball team back 10 years. you people ***** out Stans.... he never lost to a ****** Old Piss team as bad as tonight.... worst defeat since 1951... 1951... think about that... i am beyond pissed. NO EXCUSE for this ****. Where is the accountability? both on the players and coaches? all you loafer lover's are stupid as hell if you think this is acceptable. If they don't improve over the last games of the year... i yank their scholarship.... there is NO team chemistry... no hustle... no coaching.. no sense of urgency... If Rick goes to LSU... He will OWN this program. He is gonna keep Robert Kirby and get Butch Pierre... and they are gonna stick it where the sun don't shine.. and he will get Florida too because that stupid loser that they call their AD forced him out....... If he gets the job.... just wait....

 

[tenureplan]

Malachi, is that you?

 

[ronpolk]

Next year, they are going to be sophomores plus Q with another load of freshman. Is it fair to expect that much out of a handful of sophomores? Still think we are 2 years away at best when that class becomes juniors.

howland can recruit, but I don't think it's going to be a situation where they are coached to perform and he is able to get them to play smart team basketball with everyone giving exceptional effort on both sides of the ball.

I think this group with the addition of weatherspoon, brooks and ado will be much improved. Look at the difference between Holman in year 1 and 2. I'm not expecting us to win the conference next year but I do think we have a good shot at making the tournament.

 

[kired]

We gave unproven coaches like Ray 3 years & Croom 5 years --- Howland should have immunity until he decides to retire.

 

[DAWG61]

Tookie... 18.4 ppg 3.5 rpg 4.1 apg 1.7 steals

Good thing we kept strugg

This is Howland's biggest 17 up so far and it's a giant one. Keeping a dude who gets almost zero minutes after two years instead of Tookie and his 18.4 ppg as a sophomore is absurd. It's almost like Howland didn't watch any video on either player and just saw Tookie's size and said no thanks. No 17ing way possible he saw both players actually play and still wanted Strugg over Tookie.

 

[DAWG61]

Thanks to the male cheerleader from jackson prep... he set our basketball team back 10 years. you people ***** out Stans.... he never lost to a ****** Old Piss team as bad as tonight.... worst defeat since 1951... 1951... think about that... i am beyond pissed. NO EXCUSE for this ****. Where is the accountability? both on the players and coaches? all you loafer lover's are stupid as hell if you think this is acceptable. If they don't improve over the last games of the year... i yank their scholarship.... there is NO team chemistry... no hustle... no coaching.. no sense of urgency... If Rick goes to LSU... He will OWN this program. He is gonna keep Robert Kirby and get Butch Pierre... and they are gonna stick it where the sun don't shine.. and he will get Florida too because that stupid loser that they call their AD forced him out....... If he gets the job.... just wait....

Haha you dumbasses shoulda kept it quite if you really wanted Stansbury to get hired by LSU. Now you have given all anti-Stans peeps opportunity to **** on him.

 

[BiscuitEater]

I remember the same narrative after Ray's first year. How those freshman were going to be fun to watch once they grew up.

If you can't tell the difference between Ray's second year and this team .. there's no help for you!

 

[pmack65]

Another ignorant basketball post. If some people had half a brain they'd be dangerous

 

[mstateglfr]

This is Howland's biggest 17 up so far and it's a giant one. Keeping a dude who gets almost zero minutes after two years instead of Tookie and his 18.4 ppg as a sophomore is absurd. It's almost like Howland didn't watch any video on either player and just saw Tookie's size and said no thanks. No 17ing way possible he saw both players actually play and still wanted Strugg over Tookie.

This is why there is a saying for hindsight.

 

[DAWG61]

This is why there is a saying for hindsight.

Is it hindsight when we are melting over the decision to drop Tookie the second Howland did it? I don't think we could have bitched much louder about it at the time.

 

[8dog]

Peters is awesome. He is more than promise

 

[mstateglfr]

Is it hindsight when we are melting over the decision to drop Tookie the second Howland did it? I don't think we could have bitched much louder about it at the time.

Jesus man, follow along.
You said that Howland's biggest 17up to date was dropping Tookie. I said that hindsight is 20-20. Knowing what Tookie has done to date versus Strugg helps when deciding it was a 17up. For whatever reason, Howland and staff thought, at the time, that it would be best to let Tookie go. Looking back on it(hindsight), perhaps that wasnt the best decision.

Of course, also looking back, Tookie would have just further crowded the guard position and there would have been ramifications from that too.

 

[DAWG61]

Jesus man, follow along.

Yea it's hindsight for you not me when I am bitching about the loss immediately. Follow along Jesus man

 

[mstateglfr]

Yea it's hindsight for you not me when I am bitching about the loss immediately. Follow along Jesus man

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

 

[ShrubDog]

What it boils down do is players like Kegler. Will he be able to turn him around, will he run him off, or will he cater to him?

Kegler will probably be a bust, he can't see because his head is to big.

 

[DAWG61]

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Yea I know what time your clock is stuck on**

 

[Philly Dawg]

I think he will be on the bench. Some problems don't go away with a different coach. He can't play PG at that level and he's too small for SG.

 

[Philly Dawg]

Those four year starters had to be taught fundamentals as if they were freshmen.

 

[olblue.sixpack]

Then u know little about basketball. Stans teams underachieved just about every single season. We had sone great talent in the early 2000s that didnt even make 2nd rd. Alnost every yr we drug our feet until late feb then tried to make a run and throw it all together at the last minute. Problem is when we did actually make the dance we had no cohesiveness and were 4-7 spots farther back than we should have been playing much better competition.

Thanks for the feedback. I can tell you put a lot of thought into it.

Any suggestions on where to eat in Starkville?