Speaking of immunity....

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
61,325
33,039
113
He needs to start winning some damn games next year. I understand we're young, but tonight was inexcusable.
 

tenureplan

All-Conference
Dec 3, 2008
8,582
1,220
113
I agree with the Kentucky fan. I still think Howland will turn it around though. For what it is worth, Stans' good class isn't helping him too much at WKU.
 

tenureplan

All-Conference
Dec 3, 2008
8,582
1,220
113
What it boils down do is players like Kegler. Will he be able to turn him around, will he run him off, or will he cater to him?
 

olblue.sixpack

Redshirt
Aug 14, 2012
4,615
0
0
I agree with the Kentucky fan. I still think Howland will turn it around though. For what it is worth, Stans' good class isn't helping him too much at WKU.

Speaking of Kentucky, remember how excited everybody was about that loss? They aren't very good right now either.
 

tenureplan

All-Conference
Dec 3, 2008
8,582
1,220
113
That's a little misleading. Those multiple four year starters were very used to losing and the AA was a pre-madonna.
 

msstate7

Redshirt
Nov 27, 2008
10,388
10
38
Speaking of Kentucky, remember how excited everybody was about that loss? They aren't very good right now either.

We were down 17 in the 2nd half of that game too. We've lost to every team with a pulse since then and we're lucky it wasn't double digits in all 3
 

tenureplan

All-Conference
Dec 3, 2008
8,582
1,220
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If that happens, and he beats us and/or finishes ahead of us next year, does Howland still get another year?
 

olblue.sixpack

Redshirt
Aug 14, 2012
4,615
0
0
That's a little misleading. Those multiple four year starters were very used to losing and the AA was a pre-madonna.

I would be very surprised if Newman doesn't make people say "oh yeah, that guy" at KU. Guys like Self have a way of getting guys like Newman to buy in.
 

tenureplan

All-Conference
Dec 3, 2008
8,582
1,220
113
As bad as its been the past three games, it is obvious that the product is much better than it was for Ray's three years. This game looked like ray was coaching it though.
 

msudawg200

Junior
Feb 1, 2012
574
337
63
YOUTH. I laugh every time I see someone get really up or down on this team.

There will always be games like this with a young team. However, it is talented, so there will also be games like the one at Arky. Can't gain experience overnight.
 

olblue.sixpack

Redshirt
Aug 14, 2012
4,615
0
0
YOUTH. I laugh every time I see someone get really up or down on this team.

There will always be games like this with a young team. However, it is talented, so there will also be games like the one at Arky. Can't gain experience overnight.

Laughable is one way to describe it.
 

msudawg200

Junior
Feb 1, 2012
574
337
63
Next season I expect results. This year - we are still young.

I agree. I think the expectations next year should be to be on the Bubble. If we're on the right side of it, it's a success. Wrong side of it would be a slight disappointment.

Just have to keep making steps forward. No matter what you think of this team, it made steps last year from Ray's last team, and it has made steps this year from last year.
 

msstate7

Redshirt
Nov 27, 2008
10,388
10
38
YOUTH. I laugh every time I see someone get really up or down on this team.

There will always be games like this with a young team. However, it is talented, so there will also be games like the one at Arky. Can't gain experience overnight.

Tennessee is loaded with freshmen too. Our class was top 10. Their class was 43rd
 

msudawg200

Junior
Feb 1, 2012
574
337
63
I remember the same narrative after Ray's first year. How those freshman were going to be fun to watch once they grew up.

Three key differences though:
1. This recruiting class was better than that one.
2. Howland has put two solid classes together. That was Ray's only solid class and it was a gift from Stans.
3. Howland has a proven track record. Ray had zero track record.

Other than that, sure, it's the same.
 

msugolf

Senior
Dec 29, 2008
856
462
63
I remember the same narrative after Ray's first year. How those freshman were going to be fun to watch once they grew up.

Well if we're being honest you won't be happy with any coach we have unless it's Stans back on the bench. It's clear you are quite butt hurt over him being gone.
 

57stratdawg

Heisman
Dec 1, 2004
148,782
24,668
113
No time limit, IMO. If we miss the tournament the next two years, he's safe for 2020.
 
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