Forde (Mini-)Article

[121Josey]

Not "that" article. Article

 

[ShrubDog]

“We’ll see what is factual and what was innuendo from people trying to tear us down. … We have to go through a trial by fire before you get to the trial that matters.”

 

[engie]

[FONT=&quot]“That’s the hardest thing, when they call you a liar,” Freeze told Yahoo Sports Thursday morning in a one-on-one interview before his media tour began. “I’m a lot of things, but I’m not tempted to cheat in recruiting. I’m just not. That doesn’t interest me at all.[/FONT]

^ Exactly why people are going to go after him longer and harder than they would the average joe college football coach.

 

[johnson86-1]

“We’ll see what is factual and what was innuendo from people trying to tear us down. … We have to go through a trial by fire before you get to the trial that matters.”

that's pretty disgusting to me. Hey, Hugh, you're not going through a trial by fire for your beliefs. You're going through a relatively mild process where at worst, you will retire under 50 as a multi-millionaire. Not exactly being thrown in the lion's den and facing judgment. There are actual Christians actually being murdered for their beliefs, and he's sitting up there acting like he's being persecuted when he is just having to answer for cheating more than everybody else cheats. The balls on that POS.

 

[drt7891]

You know good and well he's going to try to rally the team completely behind this "we are under attack" spiritual warfare narrative he's been peddling. Much of the media out of state is no longer buying it. Whether the team buys in or not is yet to be seen, but if they do, they could still have some big wins this year.

 

[KurtRambis4]

He's just

perpetuating an act, to have his blind followers rally behind him.

He's playing this victim card, when the mother 17er is the one responsible for all of the events going on.

The dude is out there. If he had his energies dedicated to something really devious, there's no telling what he could do.

I don't know if Jim Jones was on the sociopathic level of Hugh.

Poor ol miss...

 

[aTotal360]

I'm sure the OM faithful view him as a martyr.

 

[Junction John]

Well said. He would have everyone believe that he's the only Christian coach out there, and that this 'trial' he's going through is the hardest test anyone has had to go through for his 'beliefs'. What a crock.

 

[The Maroon Pug]

Is it bad that whenever I think of this HF/UM/NCAA crap the first thing that comes to mind is the Tool song "Eulogy"?

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

Speaking of Pat Forde, weren't we going to revive the DDDY this year?

 

[Indndawg]

Then There's Mark Richt

http://www.alicedrive.org/faith-stories/mark-richts-testimony/

 

[JungRebel]

He claimed he would die for us when we hired him if it came down to it.

 

[aTotal360]

Except we're not going to miss him.

 

[JungRebel]

I believe you and Maynard have said two opposite things but meant the same.

 

[aTotal360]

Depends on what side of the fence you're on.

 

[aTotal360]

Does God hate margins? WTF?

 

[Toddyrebel75.sixpack]

How do you know

that's pretty disgusting to me. Hey, Hugh, you're not going through a trial by fire for your beliefs. You're going through a relatively mild process where at worst, you will retire under 50 as a multi-millionaire. Not exactly being thrown in the lion's den and facing judgment. There are actual Christians actually being murdered for their beliefs, and he's sitting up there acting like he's being persecuted when he is just having to answer for cheating more than everybody else cheats. The balls on that POS.

He's a fake? You've never met the man. IF he's who he said he is then you are judging and trashing one of God's servants. How do you think God will take this? I don't think I'd go that route just because I hate my rival. That's nothing that HF can do that would make you like him. State fans started trashing his relationship with God the minute he was hired. Football isn't important in the grand scheme of things. If/when the NCAA agrees to our self imposed penalties State fans will immediately attack the NCAA. Y'all will never believe we got recruits honestly no matter what happens. Even though there is nothing in the NOA about inducements or pay for play state fans can't accept that. There is no way a grown man/woman believes any of the conspiracy theories I've seen thrown out there. Such as burner phones etc.... I believe CHF is a man of faith trying to use the platform God has given him to spread his word. IF CHF really is a man of faith you're not criticizing him you're criticizing God. That's something I'd never be willing to do especially just because I despise MSU. Just my thoughts.

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

He's a fake? You've never met the man. IF he's who he said he is then you are judging and trashing one of God's servants. How do you think God will take this? I don't think I'd go that route just because I hate my rival. That's nothing that HF can do that would make you like him. State fans started trashing his relationship with God the minute he was hired. Football isn't important in the grand scheme of things. If/when the NCAA agrees to our self imposed penalties State fans will immediately attack the NCAA. Y'all will never believe we got recruits honestly no matter what happens. Even though there is nothing in the NOA about inducements or pay for play state fans can't accept that. There is no way a grown man/woman believes any of the conspiracy theories I've seen thrown out there. Such as burner phones etc.... I believe CHF is a man of faith trying to use the platform God has given him to spread his word. IF CHF really is a man of faith you're not criticizing him you're criticizing God. That's something I'd never be willing to do especially just because I despise MSU. Just my thoughts.

You ok bud?

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

Even though there is nothing in the NOA about inducements or pay for play state fans can't accept that.

Except for violation number 8 were it says, and this is a direct quote,

"It is alleged that during the 2012-13 academic year, a
then representative of the institution's athletics interests, assisted the institution in
its recruitment of four then football prospective student-athletes by engaging in
recruiting activities that promoted the institution's football program. This included
providing the prospects with various RECRUITING INDUCEMENTS. The total monetary
value of the inducements provided was approximately $2,250."

And because I am bored here is a tidbit from number 6:

6. [NCAA Division I Manual Bylaws 13.2.1, 13.6.7.7 and 13.6.8 (2012-13)]
It is alleged that between January 25 and 27, 2013, Chris Kiffin (Kiffin), assistant
football coach, arranged for three family members who were not parents or legal
guardians of then football prospective student-athlete ( ) to
receive impermissible RECRUITING INDUCEMENTS during his official paid visit. The
total monetary value of the inducements was approximately $1,027."

Please keep in mind that this is only what they can prove and, according to your own athletic dept., they aren't finished investigating.

 

[Toddyrebel75.sixpack]

Also

You attack CHF faith just because he's out coach and had taken us to heights we haven't seen since the VH years. My question to you is do you believe this was done grand plan CHF drew up when he was a child? The reason I ask is because he's been very religious going back to his childhood. He was planning to go into ministry well before he became a college coach. That is all facts that can and have been verified.

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

Honestly? I think Freeze is a Christian. And like all christians a sinner. Just for some reson people act as though his being a Christian means that either he cannot sin or that he cannot be disciplined or criticized for his wrongdoings whether they were intentional or not.

 

[Moe Cabelle]

Blessings to you!

 

[Toddyrebel75.sixpack]

Except for violation number 8 were it says, and this is a direct quote,

"It is alleged that during the 2012-13 academic year, a
then representative of the institution's athletics interests, assisted the institution in
its recruitment of four then football prospective student-athletes by engaging in
recruiting activities that promoted the institution's football program. This included
providing the prospects with various RECRUITING INDUCEMENTS. The total monetary
value of the inducements provided was approximately $2,250."

And because I am bored here is a tidbit from number 6:

6. [NCAA Division I Manual Bylaws 13.2.1, 13.6.7.7 and 13.6.8 (2012-13)]
It is alleged that between January 25 and 27, 2013, Chris Kiffin (Kiffin), assistant
football coach, arranged for three family members who were not parents or legal
guardians of then football prospective student-athlete ( ) to
receive impermissible RECRUITING INDUCEMENTS during his official paid visit. The
total monetary value of the inducements was approximately $1,027."

Please keep in mind that this is only what they can prove and, according to your own athletic dept., they aren't finished investigating.

OK, just so we're on the same page we're talking about hotels and a FCA leader taking some recruits to the BBVA compass bowl, right? That's not exactly $180,000 to come to Ole Miss. I will admit when I'm wrong and I misspoke when I said inducements. I'm speaking of inducements in the form of cash to persuade a recruit to come to Ole Miss. Meals and a hotel room for a step father along with a gentlemen in the FCA that spent a couple of semesters at OM helping the kids he mentors out is not exactly what I had in mind. I tell you what I will do........... If this comes back and proves CHF is a lying, cheating, religious imposter and I will come back here and apologize and admit I was wrong and I will dislike him as much as you all do. Will y'all do the same?

 

[DancingRabbit]

You attack CHF faith just because he's out coach and had taken us to heights we haven't seen since the VH years. My question to you is do you believe this was done grand plan CHF drew up when he was a child? The reason I ask is because he's been very religious going back to his childhood. He was planning to go into ministry well before he became a college coach. That is all facts that can and have been verified.

You never know.

Revelation 19:19–20

Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth with their armies gathered to make war against the rider on the horse and against his army. And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed in its presence the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur.

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

OK, just so we're on the same page we're talking about hotels and a FCA leader taking some recruits to the BBVA compass bowl, right? That's not exactly $180,000 to come to Ole Miss. I will admit when I'm wrong and I misspoke when I said inducements. I'm speaking of inducements in the form of cash to persuade a recruit to come to Ole Miss. Meals and a hotel room for a step father along with a gentlemen in the FCA that spent a couple of semesters at OM helping the kids he mentors out is not exactly what I had in mind. I tell you what I will do........... If this comes back and proves CHF is a lying, cheating, religious imposter and I will come back here and apologize and admit I was wrong and I will dislike him as much as you all do. Will y'all do the same?

No. Because you and your fanbase are very good at justifying every single violation to make it seem like its no big deal and you weren't actually cheating. You come here and talk a lot about how state fans can't and won't admit things while ignoring all of the facts that have been slapping yall in the face. Coach Hugh Freeze has overseen a program that has committed 9 major violations that have already been released. The UM athletic department has said themselves that some things are still under investigation.

There is a realistic chance that Ole Miss football has committed double digit level 1 violations under Hugh Freeze that can be 100% proven. Sounds like he is cheating to me. Are you willing to admit that?

 

[preacher_dawg]

The fact is now he is coming across as a martyr, as one who is being persecuted for his faith. You want to know what a Christian martyr looks like? Go look up Hugh Latimer. Real Christian martyrs are humble people. They would be the first ones to admit where they have sinned. A true Christian martyr would not play the pity party part, especially when his organization, of which he is the head, is under investigation for wrong doing. Why? Because they realize their real reason on Earth is to glorify God and not themselves.

Another thing? He's a very religious man? He almost went into the ministry? Awwwweeee? So what? Does he want a cookie? Or would you like to give him one? There is such a true Biblical point of view that you don't touch God's servant, but that would be generally in the area of ministry, not necessarily coaching football games, and even then we (as ministers of the Gospel) are not above criticism. So please, don't play that card.

I'm sorry if I wrote something I shouldn't have, but things like this get my religious anger up. Truly, whenever any subject matter related to Christianity comes up, the name of Christ should truly be uplifted, and after reading your posts, there was another name besides Christ's that seemed to be uplifted.

 

[preacher_dawg]

Oh and another thing. I am a pastor, so by your logic, you can't critisize me, but I will be the first one to ask anyone on this board to let me know where I have personally offended them, including you.

 

[DancingRabbit]

Cash is hard to trace. But cheaters do stupid ****. NCAA isn't the courts.

OK, just so we're on the same page we're talking about hotels and a FCA leader taking some recruits to the BBVA compass bowl, right? That's not exactly $180,000 to come to Ole Miss. I will admit when I'm wrong and I misspoke when I said inducements. I'm speaking of inducements in the form of cash to persuade a recruit to come to Ole Miss. Meals and a hotel room for a step father along with a gentlemen in the FCA that spent a couple of semesters at OM helping the kids he mentors out is not exactly what I had in mind. I tell you what I will do........... If this comes back and proves CHF is a lying, cheating, religious imposter and I will come back here and apologize and admit I was wrong and I will dislike him as much as you all do. Will y'all do the same?

Psssst, they know you're cheatin' bigtime. They (and be aware that the "they" is other university administrators - that's what the "NCAA" is. The media finally brought enough to light that these college administrators will be forced to exact an appropriate punishment.

The same people you're believing told you in January that this was all Nutt stuff.

Chris Vernon of Memphis radio who is a huge OM homer admitted several times this week that everybody he talked to at SEC media days (coaches and media) said that OM is cheating big time.

 

[DancingRabbit]

$5 million dollar a year martyr.

nm

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

I apologize in advance to all SPS posters for all these long posts but I am REALLY REALLY bored and can't sleep.

he's out coach and had taken us to heights we haven't seen since the VH years.

Does VH stand for Vaught Hemingway? Honestly not sure. If so I am sure you remember the Coach Vaught Hemingway days fondly.

He was planning to go into ministry well before he became a college coach. That is all facts that can and have been verified.

I wanted to be a baseball player when I was growing up. Or an astronaut depending on the day of the week. Turns out I can't hit a curveball and I get motion sickness.
\_(ツ)_/¯

IF CHF really is a man of faith you're not criticizing him you're criticizing God.

?

OK, just so we're on the same page we're talking about hotels and a FCA leader taking some recruits to the BBVA compass bowl, right?

Both are against the rules of the NCAA. Being an FCA leader doesn't give you diplomatic immunity and not graduating from a school doesn't mean you aren't a booster. Here is a NCAA webpage that will explain what a booster is and what they can and, more importantly, can't do. ww.ncaa.org/enforcement/role-boosters

Also can you not see how arranging a free place for family/friends to stay for games would be a huge boost in recruiting? I would like anywhere better if I knew I could get a free hotel room.

 

[BossDawg78]

There is no way a grown man/woman believes any of the conspiracy theories I've seen thrown out there.

Someone hasn't been paying much attention to outside opinions on the matter.

 

[BossDawg78]

The reason I ask is because he's been very religious going back to his childhood.

I hear there are a lot of people in the Memphis area that would disagree with this statement. Freeze is very religious, for sure. But he's so religious you can't help but wonder sometimes what he's hiding under all that "perfection".

 

[TBone.sixpack]

My thoughts are you are a brain washed imbecile.

10-4 Code Blue

 

[tatedog]

Coach Vaught Hemingway was pretty awesome, but he was no F. Scott Hemingway.

 

[Rebels7]

For someone who claims to be a "preacher," you're incredibly judgmental

Just saying.

 

[TBone.sixpack]

Y'all apparently can't be saved. So go ahead and burn**

 

[Rebels7]

Y'all apparently can't be saved. So go ahead and burn**

Sharia law?

 

[TBone.sixpack]

I could get down with that.

 

[Rebels7]

I could get down with that.

That says a lot. You sould become a "preacher."

 

[TBone.sixpack]

Oh no. Not my style.

I only wish the absolute worst for you folk.

Starting with Toddy Rebels ignorant ***.