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This is extremely rich considering the source.
I'll wait for your short list of current NCAA football coaches who regularly fill pulpits and are currently under the threat of major sanctions for cheating.
What exactly did he say that was 'judgemental'? Are preachers not allowed to look at behavior now and tell someone they are doing wrong, or is it just your Most Holy Prophet of Football Hugh Freezus who is immune from criticism?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Between that other doofus stating that criticism of Freeze is tantamount to criticizing God himself, and this sanctimonious ********, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. 17-ing pathetic.
Hugh Freeze has an interesting take on Christianity. The Man he claims to be like gave His life atoning for the sins that others committed. Freeze to my knowledge has yet to even acknowledge let alone ask forgiveness for the sins he committed.
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Even some OM fans must be cringing at this self righteous BS.
Even the admitted allegations in the NOA show this spiel to be untrue. If he has no tolerance for cheating why were his staff members retained?
Even the admitted allegations in the NOA show this spiel to be untrue. If he has no tolerance for cheating why were his staff members retained?
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I find it all fascinating. And not in a good way.
I consider myself to be an over the top State supporter and fan and I even find them embarrassing. I would never.
I consider myself to be an over the top State supporter and fan and I even find them embarrassing. I would never.
I don't believe State fans and admin would have reacted anywhere close to how Mississippi people have.
I have thought about the entire deal to draw a comparison and a cult is all I can come up with. It blows me away.
I have thought about the entire deal to draw a comparison and a cult is all I can come up with. It blows me away.
But see... the mindset of the OM faithful is that they are under attack by everyone because they have a preaching head coach and God Himself has chosen to bless the Black Bears with glory on the football field.
What you guys refuse to understand is there's a difference between being under attack for your beliefs and being held accountable for your actions.
Not only that, but fathom the pride and arrogance that accompanies the claim that the God of the Universe lays His favor on a football game. Not exactly fruits of the Spirit there.
What you guys refuse to understand is there's a difference between being under attack for your beliefs and being held accountable for your actions.
Not only that, but fathom the pride and arrogance that accompanies the claim that the God of the Universe lays His favor on a football game. Not exactly fruits of the Spirit there.
The closest reaction I have seen to this is Auburn's reaction to Camgate. Lucky us get to be tied to both.
Life of a State fan.
Life of a State fan.
I think the clear difference in the two matters is that we were the only complaining entity in the Auburn deal, thus Auburn skated. We are just an innocent bystander to some heavy hitters in this Ole Miss deal. But you are correct that Auburn fans lost any capacity for reason or logic and to this day most of them still think our coaches self reported an offer of payment in order to implicate them.
Sorry you felt that way, Rebels7. I try not to comment negatively on things unless I see something that puts Christianity and/or church in a bad light, not that I have always succeeded in that.
They aren't conspiracy theories when you have 8 major violations that were released (after your AD and coach bold-faced lied about its existence and scope to the media back before signing day). Pretty sure you guys cheated. O, yea, according to your coach, you are still under investigation.
I honestly don't know what kind of man HF is. But when he goes to the media after signing day and says that class was "Gods favor" on OM, I start asking questions. So is he trying to say MSU or Arkansas or anyone else is not as worthy of Gods favor? That's what it sure as hell sounds like.
When someone says stuff like that, he deserves criticism. Because I'm pretty sure that goes against the fruits of the spirit outlined in the New Testament. That's nothing but arrogance and smugness. OM fans eat it up because he's winning games for you. Find me another SEC fan base who feels the way you guys do.
Also, Mark Richt was pretty outspoken about his faith, but not in the way Freeze is. So save me the bullcrap argument that Freeze is somehow being attacked because of his faith. He's being held accountable because he appears to think he's above the rules.
Lastly, he makes $5MM freaking dollars a year. If that were my money, I'd be wanting answers. I don't give my money to people that think they are above the rules.
I honestly don't know what kind of man HF is. But when he goes to the media after signing day and says that class was "Gods favor" on OM, I start asking questions. So is he trying to say MSU or Arkansas or anyone else is not as worthy of Gods favor? That's what it sure as hell sounds like.
When someone says stuff like that, he deserves criticism. Because I'm pretty sure that goes against the fruits of the spirit outlined in the New Testament. That's nothing but arrogance and smugness. OM fans eat it up because he's winning games for you. Find me another SEC fan base who feels the way you guys do.
Also, Mark Richt was pretty outspoken about his faith, but not in the way Freeze is. So save me the bullcrap argument that Freeze is somehow being attacked because of his faith. He's being held accountable because he appears to think he's above the rules.
Lastly, he makes $5MM freaking dollars a year. If that were my money, I'd be wanting answers. I don't give my money to people that think they are above the rules.
It has been my experience that people who constantly have to remind the world of what good Christians they are, generally speaking are not real good Christians. If you are a good Christian people will notice without you having to remind them. The Bible calls upon us to be humble servants of the Almighty. I am generally wary of those who feel the need to constantly remind everyone of how good a Christian they are OR resort to the persecution complex whenever life throws a challenge at them.
"Be not wise in your own conceits" Romans VII
"Be not wise in your own conceits" Romans VII
When his wife asked him what she could do for him he asked her "To pray to the Lord that the NCAA accepts OM's self imposed sanctions." Treating the Lord like Santa Claus is a fine definition of Christian hypocrisy.
Cheating, hiding stuff, then deceiving people and lying about it, then running to the media to play the victim of some kind of "faith persecution complex" when it really just being accountable for your actions bothers me (all while making more in a year than most of us will make in our lifetime). What's your point? Preacher dawg was spot on with his comments. it's not being judgemental... Freeze and the university are doing their parts to verify his statements.
And It's not just us "little 'ol state fans" saying that, either. When you cheat, lie, and deceive all in the name of winning football games, then do all that under the cloak of "Faith," people will question, criticize, and want to hold that person accountable. It's that simple.
And It's not just us "little 'ol state fans" saying that, either. When you cheat, lie, and deceive all in the name of winning football games, then do all that under the cloak of "Faith," people will question, criticize, and want to hold that person accountable. It's that simple.
Hypocrisy. It's funny you say that. You have Hugh who screams how godly of a man he is from the highest mountain top. To everyone he sees every opportunity he gets. Especially when talking to recruits parents. So much so that he's told at least one recruits dad he fears for his soul if he signs at Mississippi State. Pretty sad.
He uses the bible when meeting with parents. Then when the recruits come to town unsupervised it's about the party. The booze, drugs, women and money. Everything he should be against. But it's ok as long as it's for recruiting.
Amen.
Two scriptures come to mind with this whole deal
Freeze is insistent he has never been tempted to cheat but James 1:2 says "Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials for various kinds ..."
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1 Timothy 6:9 "But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction."
Testing and temptation are good things, things to be overcome. I'm not one to throw stones, everyone sins, but don't be a hypocrite about it.
This. It's not like they are coming to a Bible study. Does the man claim to be blind or just ignorant?
So agree with poster about comparing Bucky to missionaries and christians that put their lives on the line for their faith everyday. I would be embarrassed to compare a 7-figure salary coaching football to people that actually could be martyred for their beliefs. I know football is a religion in the South but how about actually take responsibility for what you have done or given the impression that you have done. This is just sickening in light of the religious divides in the world and actual violence. Nice France etc.
The difference between Richt and Freeze is Richt comes off like a guy you know with a strong faith that's not in your face about it, but he's there if you need him, and he knows it and you know it. Freeze comes off like a prosperity gospel televangelist.
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