Kingsley is draft eligible
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Here we go again
He’s also like the 20 something ranked player and is very raw. Ranked lower than Diallo and significantly lower than Sharpe who was #1
Aren’t all guys who reclassify and enroll in college for the Fall semester eligible?
Why would anyone think he wasn't? Only the really young guys who reclass aren't
This is not a Shaedon Sharpe situation imo.
I mean as long as he plays who cares? Now if he sits and doesn't and then leaves that would suck and be a "here we go again."
That said, this situation is nothing like Sharpe. Sharpe was #1 player and was already on draft boards as a potential Top 10 pick before he ever stepped foot on UK's campus....also plays the most in demand position in NBA.
That said, this situation is nothing like Sharpe. Sharpe was #1 player and was already on draft boards as a potential Top 10 pick before he ever stepped foot on UK's campus....also plays the most in demand position in NBA.
I only care if he’s vaccinated. We will never get to the Final Four unless we stay up to date on our shots.
PLAY HIM!!!
Wheeler
Frederick
Oscar
Toppin
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Frontline of 6’9, 6’10, 7’0
Wheeler
Frederick
Oscar
Toppin
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Frontline of 6’9, 6’10, 7’0
This is way different than Sharpe, but I’m sure the haters will say different. Big guys who can’t shoot aren’t wanted in the NBA right now, why do you think Oscar and Baccot came back?
Well of course, why wouldn’t he be eligible? He’s he 1 year removed from HS. Lol poster trying to turn a positive into a negative for the hell of it
You’d play Oscar at the 3?
Yes, dont tell anyone MD but I really want:
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Oscar
Toppin
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Tallest starting Five in Basketball History!
This shouldn’t be an issue, unless Cal makes it an issue. Just play him like you would any other Freshman. Cal never redshirts healthy Freshmen who enroll in the Fall. Why start with this guy? It’s not like he is going to play four years. Play him a few minutes a game, maybe more in blow outs and let him get his feet wet. If he is good enough to play more then play him more.
If Cal redshirts him and then he decides to go to the draft, then Cal deserves the criticism he is going to get for letting something like this happen again.
As I have said, “Fool me once, shame on you…fool me twice, shame on me.” No excuses for Cal if another Sharpe situation happens. In my book, the first time you get a pass, but you better learn from your mistakes.
If Cal redshirts him and then he decides to go to the draft, then Cal deserves the criticism he is going to get for letting something like this happen again.
As I have said, “Fool me once, shame on you…fool me twice, shame on me.” No excuses for Cal if another Sharpe situation happens. In my book, the first time you get a pass, but you better learn from your mistakes.
Boy. These random pop up accounts are something else.
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If Cal redshirts him at all, we wouldn't have to wait until next summer to be fervently pissed off about it.
There's literally ZERO sense in redshirting the kid. It's completely illogical and would only hint of another round of nonsense from a coach who can't afford any more PR nightmares.
There’s no way Cal does that. No way. Not unless he wants to be fired at the end of the year. Because that’s the kind of crap that would set the fan base ablaze.
We're already ablaze. Cal is the equivalent of the cheater spouse who has to completely alter his behavior to even have a chance at redemption, as in 100% behavior modification and not even a hint of retaining the old stigmas. If he redshirts this kid, it makes no sense unless they're A. trying to spare Ware's feelings (which would be a stupid reason to redshirt him) or B. they're hiding him like they did Sharpe.
Those are the only two possible reasons, and if Cal redshirts him, it will show once more than Cal is willing to put the player ahead of the program.
He's going to have to play if he wants to even sniff a draft board. No NBA team is going to draft a lowly ranked freshman who didn't play, and who is extremely raw offensively. He's not Sharpe.
So really, the only issue would be if he plays early, and plays enough.. to show his talents, and then decides to shut it down. But I just don't see that happening.
So really, the only issue would be if he plays early, and plays enough.. to show his talents, and then decides to shut it down. But I just don't see that happening.
100 days until the season starts. That’s plenty of time to have him practicing and seeing where he fits in. Obviously coming in late and not playing in the Bahamas puts him way way behind. It’s going to mostly be up to him if he can make up that ground. Glad to have him on the roster this year for depth, and at the very least providing spot minutes for foul trouble and injury insurance.
There's a bunch who say he'll redshirt.
What's the precise logic in that?
It's another one of these mindless organic narratives that takes a life of its own while few seem to question the rationale behind it.
Cal wouldn’t do it again, he was so apologetic last time
I mean then entire fan base. Because you’ve got guys like me that while I’m pissed at Cal, I’m pleased with this off season and recruiting for next year. I’m holding reservations on the on court stuff of course. That remains to be seen.
But him doing that AGAIN? Would set the remaining neutral and slight Cal likers off a cliff.
There’s no way he’s that stupid.
Redshirting him would just be dumb. He isn’t staying five years. And if it’s to protect Ware, then that’s even worse. Play them both behind Tshiebwe. Let the best player play. Let the other get mop up minutes. Whatever happened to iron sharpens iron? They will get better playing against each other and against Tshiebwe.
I have to think he will play....at least some. Him not playing would be an unneeded distraction like Sharpe was.
But if he doesn't play, then heads to the NBA, then I believe Cal is done coaching here in IMHO.
I really really hope this isn't a Groundhog Day scenario.
But if he doesn't play, then heads to the NBA, then I believe Cal is done coaching here in IMHO.
I really really hope this isn't a Groundhog Day scenario.
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Where are the minutes for him if Oscar is getting 30 and then Ware getting 10? I would like to see him get some run during the OOC cupcake portion to see what he has got but the reality is he is barely going to get any type of minutes unless he shows up and is too good not to play.
We didn’t think the Shaedon Sharpe situation was a Shaedon Sharpe situation until it became a Shaedon Sharpe situation .
With that said I do agree I don’t think this is a Shaedon Sharpe situation
With that said I do agree I don’t think this is a Shaedon Sharpe situation
If he's any good whatsoever he will take Wares minutes. Would love to have an elite shot blocker in the middle for a change.
Cockburn, Bacot, and Tshiebwe are all throw back type bigs. They aren’t the type of 5 man the league wants. Now Onyenso is an above the rim defensive minded shot blocker/rim protector. That’s closer to what the league wants. They also draft on potential and sadly, the longer you stay in college, the less potential you have in the eyes of the NBA scouts. Why do you think Sharpe refused to play? He didn’t want anyone to know what he could do that way he could be drafted on potential. Let’s hope Onyenso isn’t trying to go that route. I know he is not in the first round conversation right now, but what happens when he gets here, shows out on Pro Day for the scouts, then decides to redshirt? Cal is going to catch a lot of heat and if the kid decides to test the waters, it could get really ugly. If he goes in the draft and gets drafted on potential… you do the math.
But why invite the questions at all? Why not simply play him? You were certain Shape would return last winter as well. Sorry if some of us don't prescribe to your logic, especially when you have no logical answer for why it would be sensible to redshirt Kingsley at all.
NBA don't care if you didn't put up numbers in college. If you show potential to be something great they will draft you.
That’s why you give him a shot. If he can beat Ware out and get those 10 minutes a game we are a better team. If he doesn’t, then did it hurt to play him a few minutes in mop up play? Nope. It might hurt his draft stock if he struggles when he is out there, but it doesn’t hurt the team. And if he really wants to return, then does it matter about his ‘23 draft stock? Nope. He is coming back anyway. If he doesn’t play, it will only benefit him, it does nothing for the program. He isn’t wasting his eligibility, kids don’t use all their eligibility anymore, not kids like him anyway. Put him out there and see what he can do. What will it hurt?
Yes, he will be seeing mop up minutes behind Ware if I had to guess. Ware is ahead of Kingsley on the depth chart as he should be and if Kingsley wants to play substantial minutes then he has to beat out Ware in practice which I could very well see happening
Toppin at the 3?
No thank you.
But hey, throw him out there some for sure, but I doubt he plays much this year.
Yeah because nothings ever happened to make them question your god .