NCAA recommends allowing multiple transfers

Atrain7732

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I’m in favor of one freebie, but this is getting ridiculous. You’ll have guys play 4 years at 4 different schools.
Agreed. This just seems outta control at this point. Evidently, bc of NIL and fear of lawsuits, the NCAA is effectively hamstrung from limiting transfers.

Pertaining to UK, I think this will prolly not hurt, even possibly help, basketball. Football I could see being negatively affected tho.
 

bthaunert

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Agreed. This just seems outta control at this point. Evidently, bc of NIL and fear of lawsuits, the NCAA is effectively hamstrung from limiting transfers.

Pertaining to UK, I think this will prolly not hurt, even possibly help, basketball. Football I could see being negatively affected tho.
I don’t think it will hurt football at all. The transfer portal has been a gold mine for our football program and I don’t see that changing.
 
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On the one hand, I would agree that it would be best for the athletes to have the freedom to play where they want to play, and the freedom to leave a bad situation without penalty.

On the other hand, I can certainly see where it would damage public interest in college sports, and make the recruiting process a nightmare for coaches.

I feel the the second point out-weighs the first. Let's not kill the golden goose. Leave it at one immediate transfer.
 

Cats_2010

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Yea this is just a free for all going forward.

A little depressing to see how far things have gotten. I am supportive of players getting $$$ but wish it was set up more as a salary cap. When SC is bringing in the #1 recruit for likely $1 Million + you have an issue on your hands.
It’s not a sustainable model. No idea when the implosion will take place, but it is very likely to happen at some point in time.
 

UK90

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I don't understand why the bcs schools even bother. They should break off and form their own alliance.
Honestly, the gap between the power schools and mid majors may now grow so wide that eventually they’ll have no choice but to separate them.

Because it’s clearly the little guys that will be getting screwed over most. The combination of free transfers and NIL$ is gonna make it SO difficult for them to keep their best players. The days seeing great players come out of small schools like Steph Curry, Ja Morant and Dame Lillard may be finished. Those guys will be jumping ship at the first opportunity from now on.
 

Gromcat_rivals

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And just think. So many people wanted to loosen rules, allow “likeness”, and thought it would just end at this great place of fairness and tranquility.

Reminds me of other things going on in America where people never learn. Humans always ruin a good thing.

For some reason we cannot understand the concept - leave well enough alone.
 

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Someone brought up players transferring multiple times the other day and I looked up a couple of players who've transferred twice to try to find out what their status is for this season. I know you're supposed to sit a season but I think these guys are just getting waivers anyway. Pittsburgh and Oklahoma each have one, and both are projected to play this season.
 

Atrain7732

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Someone brought up players transferring multiple times the other day and I looked up a couple of players who've transferred twice to try to find out what their status is for this season. I know you're supposed to sit a season but I think these guys are just getting waivers anyway. Wake Forest and Oklahoma each have one, and both are projected to play this season.
Article mentions that the ncaa has pretty much approved all requests for multiple transfers so this isn’t all that huge of an huge issue IMO. Just one of many recent signs that the landscape is so rapidly changing it may be completely unrecognizable very soon. I hope not.

I don’t have a problem with players being paid or transferring, just create some type of reasonable structure for doing so. When people like Jimbo Fisher are concerned on the football side, that makes me concerned as a Uk football fan.
 
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Lempface

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On the one hand, I would agree that it would be best for the athletes to have the freedom to play where they want to play, and the freedom to leave a bad situation without penalty.

On the other hand, I can certainly see where it would damage public interest in college sports, and make the recruiting process a nightmare for coaches.

I feel the the second point out-weighs the first. Let's not kill the golden goose. Leave it at one immediate transfer.
What’s could happen is that by allowing all of this freedom, which is probably the correct thing to do anyway, the players will drive down the reason their sport was popular in the first place. Then it’ll just devolve into only a few schools having certain teams with much popularity getting the best transfers and recruits and they’ll continually win championships while no one really cares about the sport. Tv money will dry up and NIL will follow suit eventually leading to the complete demise in popularity. Congrats everyone you just exercised your freedoms and destroyed the market for your sport.
 

UK90

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Then it’ll just devolve into only a few schools having certain teams with much popularity getting the best transfers and recruits and they’ll continually win championships while no one really cares about the sport.
Oh yeah, it’s definitely gonna widen the gap between the haves and have nots. I just don’t see how mid majors are gonna be able to stay competitive with the big money schools in this new world order.

Which is gonna make the NCAA tournament more boring. One of the funnest things about “March Madness” has always been seeing the little guys upset the big guys and occasionally even make deep runs. Well, there ain’t gonna be as many little guys equipped to do that in the era of NIL money and no transfer restrictions.
 

SemperFiCat

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What’s could happen is that by allowing all of this freedom, which is probably the correct thing to do anyway, the players will drive down the reason their sport was popular in the first place. Then it’ll just devolve into only a few schools having certain teams with much popularity getting the best transfers and recruits and they’ll continually win championships while no one really cares about the sport. Tv money will dry up and NIL will follow suit eventually leading to the complete demise in popularity. Congrats everyone you just exercised your freedoms and destroyed the market for your sport.
Solid take. I agree with everything, except the TV money. It'll always be there, but will be significantly diminished. There's a market for things like AAU tournaments and Big3 type stuff. Which is ultimataely the type of market NCAA might find itself in. Never in a million years would I've thought NCAA basketball could end up down on the level of things like NCAA baseball. But it looks like that's a strong possibility. Seems to be spiraling out and headed off the tracks.
 

Panthur

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No man go with the flow. Let ‘em transfer their @sses off plus if they play Monopoly and roll doubles they HAVE TO transfer.
 

K_TIME

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Way over reaction all over college sports.

1. I can get behind allowing a no sit transfer if the coach leaves or is fired.....that sort of logic allows the players to have same freedoms as coaches.
2. I can even get behind the grad transfer no sit policy...complete an education..you get an award.
3. But why the need for any other no sit transfers....it's really just going to worsen for smaller schools and another source of talent for bigger schools.

Kids coming and going is lessening college fans connection and once that connection erodes more and more...you'll be left with less fans $$$$. The nonsense of NBA with guys like Durant, Kyrie, etc..guys sitting out whole years, etc... is giong to push fans away. So as college starts to go down the same path...it's only going to attract less support.
 

Lempface

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Solid take. I agree with everything, except the TV money. It'll always be there, but will be significantly diminished. There's a market for things like AAU tournaments and Big3 type stuff. Which is ultimataely the type of market NCAA might find itself in. Never in a million years would I've thought NCAA basketball could end up down on the level of things like NCAA baseball. But it looks like that's a strong possibility. Seems to be spiraling out and headed off the tracks.
I agree they will continue to televise and there will be contracts, but it won’t be anything like the crazy contracts we’ve seen over the last few decades.
 
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I don't understand why the bcs schools even bother. They should break off and form their own alliance.
We’re well on our way to that. The Pac 12 functionally dissolved a couple weeks ago. The Big 12 lost it’s two star programs and is actively poaching the rest of the Pac 12/AAC in response. The ACC’s idiot contract and Notre Dame acting like they better than ever being in a conference are the only things slowing down Super Conferences.
 

Gromcat_rivals

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I agree. You should only be allowed to switch companies you work for once every five years too.

That would be the NBA Jill. Not surprised you’re not understanding this.

The NCAA‘a job is to protect the concepts of the organization and create rules that make it fair for all teams to compete fairly. It’s not their job to make sure every student gets trophy’s and peanuts.

In what world is destroying the sport good for anyone? How is that fair, lol. No thanks on ruining everything over someone’s ill conceived notion of fairness. Totally ridiculous.

If these players do not like it they don’t have to play. They have many avenues to take. You’ve bought into the nonsense and now just sound lost at this point.
 

Gromcat_rivals

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Way over reaction all over college sports.

1. I can get behind allowing a no sit transfer if the coach leaves or is fired.....that sort of logic allows the players to have same freedoms as coaches.
2. I can even get behind the grad transfer no sit policy...complete an education..you get an award.
3. But why the need for any other no sit transfers....it's really just going to worsen for smaller schools and another source of talent for bigger schools.

Kids coming and going is lessening college fans connection and once that connection erodes more and more...you'll be left with less fans $$$$. The nonsense of NBA with guys like Durant, Kyrie, etc..guys sitting out whole years, etc... is giong to push fans away. So as college starts to go down the same path...it's only going to attract less support.

I remember when I would tell Gonzo the connection from fan to program is going to be hit directly by much of this nonsense which would be worse for players of all types in the long run. People cannot see the forest through the trees, and I notice many of the guys clamoring for rules changes are now wanting it to stop or saying nothing at all.

They were told repeatedly by several don’t budge because if you do this would never end and it would destroy college athletics.

here we are.