What ever Johnny.
You would have your daughter,wife, mother, and yourself, smoke his pole to have him in Oxford.
You would have your daughter,wife, mother, and yourself, smoke his pole to have him in Oxford.
Need re-calculation of the 16 class's rank with Simmons removed. ...
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As far as I'm concerned, he's not "one of ours." At least I hope he's not. This guy is a potential felon, depending on what the DA does with this, and he's definitely a coward. I don't want him anywhere near our locker room.
I had this thought myself. Honestly, I think that knife may cut both ways.
Sure, it's easy to say if it was a 3-star late offer we'd all be ready to cut ties.
If this was not a 5-star high profile guy, though, I don't know that it makes the news at all. Certainly guys like Clay Travis aren't writing articles calling for his dismissal and the fan blog morons aren't continually tweeting about it.
Maybe fleeing from arrest - if that truly is felony worthy. But then Ole Pat would condemn the cops for putting innocent lives at risk. Too bad he's not already "one of ours" because Ole Pat would call BS on the arrest, the video, and the woman.**
Damn. That is terrible. Glad she's doing better now, but she'll live with that for a long time, and you will too. There are far too may guys just like the ones who did that to her playing college and pro football. I hope we're not about to add one to our roster.
Under what circumstances do you think it's ok to hit a woman? She didn't pull a weapon on him and he apparently did it from something she said, so does that mean it's ok to hit a woman if she says something you don't like? Just 'dot that eye' huh?
Stringfellow..... Yes, UW did kick him off AND OM was more than happy to roster him. Then when he gets to Oxford, he body slams and kicks a student half his size in the streets of Oxford. There is a video of that btw. He was charged with disorderly conduct. HA! ...and continued to play at OM.
Point being, I image the vast majority of people associated with MSU would say cut him IF ....IF there was any honor in college football. But there isn't..... OM and many others would sign him in a minute. It's the world we live in. Soooo, you give him another chance.
Clay Travis and the reb mouthpieces will crucify us for it. But they will ignore all the ******** going on at UT and OM. College football now a days......
Point being, I image the vast majority of people associated with MSU would say cut him IF ....IF there was any honor in college football. But there isn't..... OM and many others would sign him in a minute. It's the world we live in. Soooo, you give him another chance.
Clay Travis and the reb mouthpieces will crucify us for it. But they will ignore all the ******** going on at UT and OM. College football now a days......
True. I was gonna stop with the verses, but like most other message board superheros, I had to add my opinion.
There has been a ton of 'men shouldnt hit women' ranting in this thread. Its true, men shouldnt hit women.
Men also shouldnt hit men.
And Women shouldnt hit men.
The idea that a man shouldnt hit a woman because the man is bigger is disgusting and doesnt help resolve violence.
It should not matter if the victim is a 5'8 150# woman or a 5'8 150# man. Differentiating due to gender only negates the actual issue and the severity of the act.
Viewing violence as a whole and not separating it by gender of victim is necessary as people need to leans that ALL violence towards others is unacceptable. ALL. The color of the person, the gender of the person, the sexual orientation of the person, etc etc etc is all just noise.
EVERYONE must be valued equally for true respect of others to exist.
Men also shouldnt hit men.
And Women shouldnt hit men.
The idea that a man shouldnt hit a woman because the man is bigger is disgusting and doesnt help resolve violence.
It should not matter if the victim is a 5'8 150# woman or a 5'8 150# man. Differentiating due to gender only negates the actual issue and the severity of the act.
Viewing violence as a whole and not separating it by gender of victim is necessary as people need to leans that ALL violence towards others is unacceptable. ALL. The color of the person, the gender of the person, the sexual orientation of the person, etc etc etc is all just noise.
EVERYONE must be valued equally for true respect of others to exist.
I don't think people understand that if he is going to be charged with a crime it will be simple assault. That has a fine of a couple of hundred dollars. He will have to bond out, but that is nothing. There will be no jail time. You have to almost kill someone to get felony assault.
We typically don't let victims or those close to them hand out punishments, and for good reason. You'd see a lot of things turn into capital crimes.
And more generally, the reality is that there are football players and non-football players on campuses across the SEC that have done bad things. For some of those people, what they have done is out of character, and for other people, what they have done is entirely in character. I have no clue which is the case for Simmons, but provided the coaches look into it and don't find out this is in character, I'm not particularly interested in making things harder for Simmons simply because he's a football player or making things harder on MSU's football program just so I can pat myself on the back about how principled I am.
Just because it's not ok doesn't mean that every time a woman is hit it's the same. A 17 year old that beats up a girl for ***** and giggles is not the same as a 17 year old that loses his temper over a disparaging comment about a dead relative. Both are bad but they are not equally bad.
If Simmons was a 2 star we would'nt even have to discuss him being kicked off. If his class rank would change one's decision on whether or not he stays on the team, then a re-evaluation of priorities is needed.
HD6 made some really good points on B&B Show today regarding this situation.
Give it a listen.
Give it a listen.
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