SI thinks Creighton will be #1 with Scheierman

RipThru

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Gonzaga has been much better than Kentucky as of late. They haven’t won a championship. But they have played in 2 championship games in the last 5 years… Kentucky hasn’t won a tournament game in 4 lol
I don't know what you're talking about, but i quoted the poster who was talking about Creighton...
 

Bluefaithful

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So Funny, slam Cal cause he hollers Goooo! Slam Cal cause of Stall Ball. There's a 30 second clock by the way. Which one is it?
McDermott record in NCAA Tournament is 6-10. ONE SWEET SIXTEEN

During Calipari's 13 seasons at UK, no coach in the NCAA Tournament has more wins (31), Final Fours (four), Elite Eights (seven) or Sweet 16s (eight).

OH YEAH McDermott way better in game coach, LMAO
 

UKat51

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So Funny, slam Cal cause he hollers Goooo! Slam Cal cause of Stall Ball. There's a 30 second clock by the way. Which one is it?
McDermott record in NCAA Tournament is 6-10. ONE SWEET SIXTEEN

During Calipari's 13 seasons at UK, no coach in the NCAA Tournament has more wins (31), Final Fours (four), Elite Eights (seven) or Sweet 16s (eight).

OH YEAH McDermott way better in game coach, LMAO
And Creighton needs to play in a better conference. Weak conference.
 

RipThru

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So Funny, slam Cal cause he hollers Goooo! Slam Cal cause of Stall Ball. There's a 30 second clock by the way. Which one is it?
McDermott record in NCAA Tournament is 6-10. ONE SWEET SIXTEEN

During Calipari's 13 seasons at UK, no coach in the NCAA Tournament has more talent, Final Fours (four), Elite Eights (seven) or Sweet 16s (eight).

OH YEAH McDermott way better in game coach, LMAO
(psssttt....he's not at UK)

Also: FIFY
 

GuyFromKY

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Cal's offensive ratings:
2022 - 5
2021 - 84
2020 - 24
2019 - 12
2018 - 24
2017 - 10

Average: 26.5

McDermott's offensive ratings:
2022 - 112
2021 - 25
2020 - 3
2019 - 47
2018 - 25
2017 - 32

Average: 41

Explain to me again how "he's a much better offensive coach than Cal"
Explain to me why you stopped rebutting when I gave you 10 examples of how Calipari is not a good coach.

Would you like to respond and refute my argument? I noticed you stopped responding.
 

canebreak

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I live in Omaha, but not a Creighton fan. But their coach is a much better in game coach than Cal. A very fun offense to watch . And I guess that’s why he decided on Creighton. Tough for Kentucky to get these types of shooters with their current style of offense.
I do think Kentucky will be good. Shooting might be an issue. But very interesting non the less to see Creighton as a potential preseason top 5 team
Absolute BS. I been hard on Cal but no one in their right mind thinks Creighton has a better coach or system. Really dude. And no...Creighton is not the best team entering this next season. SI just wanting to make noise. I bet the folks who wrote the article wouldn't put their money on it.
 

RoyKent

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Look at the talent difference. A lot of that has to do with transition points and offensive rebounds into points for Kentucky. But if you ever watch Creighton, their half court offense is much more exciting
He's been at Creighton from TWELVE years...how does he get credit for not having the talent when he has been there that long???

Stop with the nonsense. "If you watch them". So dumb.

I showed you offensive rankings, let's look at more stats.

UK - 79.4 pts/game, 48.5 FG%, 35 3 pt %, 11.6 TO
Creighton - 69.2 pts/game (227th in the country!!), 44.8 FG%, 30.8 3pt%, 14.1 TO

It's beyond ridiculous to say their offense and McDermott is better. This is also with them playing a much weaker schedule than UK. Just own that it was a terrible take.
 
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VAWildcat15

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this x1000. I'm not happy with the past couple of seasons either, but the anti-Cal group has lost their minds

I want to be unhappy with Cal but I come here and find myself wanting to defend him because the torch and pitchfork crowd is just so ridiculous. It’s just insane what passes as a good take with that crowd.
 

HurtLocker83

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Explain to me why you stopped rebutting when I gave you 10 examples of how Calipari is not a good coach.

Would you like to respond and refute my argument? I noticed you stopped responding.
JF is a Seagull poster....flies over you, ***** on you, then flies away....we run over guys like him on the way to a good fight
 

kl40504_rivals

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Hilarious coming from the agenda driven legend himself.

You think comparing a coach of Kentucky’s success in the tourney to a coach at a mid major actually makes sense??

Cal won’t need his scheduled colonoscopy this year with you already up there checking things out.
Yes and everything looks great. Told him he was good for another 10 years. He said great I will still be coaching at UK.
 

TankedCat

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I don't know anything about Creighton but my guess is they shot their wad on this kid and any future NIL deals are going to be Burger King coupons and a car air freshener.

however that is a concern about this NIL. A school can't get a team of players worthy of big NIL packages but they can get 1

and that 1 is the final piece your team needed to have a championship team.
 
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UK90

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And Creighton needs to play in a better conference. Weak conference.
********. The Big East is full of teams with fantastic basketball histories, and is BY FAR the best conference outside of the P5 big time football group. Hell, its teams have won four national championships in just the last dozen years …which is four times better than the SEC has done during that period.

Out of curiosity, just what “better conference” do you think Creighton could join?
 

akaukswoosh

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Scheierman is a good player who I would have liked to see take on the Grady role at Kentucky. But he's a limited player who played in the Summit League -- a league with an RPI rating just ahead of the Atlantic Sun Conference.

That doesn't mean he can't be a contributor - I expect Antonio Reeves to be a solid player (though the Missouri Valley Conference is far superior to the Summit league, and he looks a lot quicker and more athletic in game clips.) There's a reason no one had heard of him three weeks ago.

The idea that he is some kind of Larry Bird who can elevate a good team to #1 is ludicrous.
Agree.
 
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LowCountryCat

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I never said nor implied that I would take McDermott. I simply said it was an unjust comparison due to the talent disparity. Give McDermott the talent and time that Calipari has had and then compare. That can be said for any coach. Calipari just has not proved that he can manage within the lines of the court. On the contrary, he has proven multiple times that he can not manage a game within the lines of the court.

1) Wisconsin
2) Kansas State
3) St. Peter's
4) Inbounds plays
5) Refusing zone defense
6) Dribble drive that is dead
7) Stall ball
8) Refusal to knock opponents out with a lead under 4 minutes
9) Inappropriate refusal of using time outs
10) Publicly stating he doesn't care about watching film
West Virginia
Evansville
Richmond
Notre Dame
 

Mike-D

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I live in Omaha, but not a Creighton fan. But their coach is a much better in game coach than Cal. A very fun offense to watch . And I guess that’s why he decided on Creighton. Tough for Kentucky to get these types of shooters with their current style of offense.
I do think Kentucky will be good. Shooting might be an issue. But very interesting non the less to see Creighton as a potential preseason top 5 team

Shooting is always an issue, almost every single year.
 

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Cal's offensive ratings:
2022 - 5
2021 - 84
2020 - 24
2019 - 12
2018 - 24
2017 - 10

Average: 26.5

McDermott's offensive ratings:
2022 - 112
2021 - 25
2020 - 3
2019 - 47
2018 - 25
2017 - 32

Average: 41

Explain to me again how "he's a much better offensive coach than Cal"
Cal's average is skewed because of year 2021....
 

sk73

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They looked awesome in the tournament this past year. I would think top 5-10 is legit
Isn't he the guy that came close to having his team walk out on him? I think it was him. He had to go on an apology tour to calm his players and employer.
 

JC CATS

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I never said nor implied that I would take McDermott. I simply said it was an unjust comparison due to the talent disparity. Give McDermott the talent and time that Calipari has had and then compare. That can be said for any coach. Calipari just has not proved that he can manage within the lines of the court. On the contrary, he has proven multiple times that he can not manage a game within the lines of the court.

1) Wisconsin
2) Kansas State
3) St. Peter's
4) Inbounds plays
5) Refusing zone defense
6) Dribble drive that is dead
7) Stall ball
8) Refusal to knock opponents out with a lead under 4 minutes
9) Inappropriate refusal of using time outs
10) Publicly stating he doesn't care about watching film
It's not my fight, but isn't recruiting part of coaching? Can't say well look at the schools, Cal brought Wall Cousins and Bledsoe from going to Memphis with him. Just saying you have to take that into consideration also
 

yoshukai

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McDermott has done a great job at Creighton. Seems like a very solid coach.

However, to say he is a better in-game coach than Cal is simply stupid. He has been to the Sweet 16 once in his entire coaching career.

In 22 seasons as a head coach (Northern Iowa, Iowa St and Creighton) he has won 6 NCAA tourney games total. He's not a better in-game coach than Cal (or nearly any Power 5 coach for that matter).
Good god . I’d say that about practically ANY college coach .”In game coaching “ is not exactly Cals strong suit.
 

DreadLox

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Scheierman is a good player who I would have liked to see take on the Grady role at Kentucky. But he's a limited player who played in the Summit League -- a league with an RPI rating just ahead of the Atlantic Sun Conference.

That doesn't mean he can't be a contributor - I expect Antonio Reeves to be a solid player (though the Missouri Valley Conference is far superior to the Summit league, and he looks a lot quicker and more athletic in game clips.) There's a reason no one had heard of him three weeks ago.

The idea that he is some kind of Larry Bird who can elevate a good team to #1 is ludicrous.
Yes. UK has had several great shooters who could light up modestly talented competition but who wilted when the competition got better. I've only seen of Scheierman what everyone else has, and Youtube clips don't show speed, court vision, and poise. He could be all world or he could be all-conference at a lesser conference. If there are actual college scouts here, please contribute. The reason any of these players get more juices flowing than any other flavor-of-the-week is a mystery. Unless it isn't a mystery and it's just the latest excuse to bash Calipari.
 
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DreadLox

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Only an idiot would think talent doesn’t matter.
The line about good coaches is that a good coach will take his'n and beat your'n and then turn around and take your'n and beat his'n. I think that's from Bum Phillips.

Calipari some time ago decided he wanted his players to learn to play basketball. He was prepping them to earn their living by it. So, at the end of games, he expects them to recognize situations and take initiative. Fans just want to win games. Calipari wants his players to learn how to win games. That gap (and Calipari's politics) is why we have the latest frenzy.
 
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yoshukai

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It's not my fight, but isn't recruiting part of coaching? Can't say well look at the schools, Cal brought Wall Cousins and Bledsoe from going to Memphis with him. Just saying you have to take that into consideration also
But the statement was “in game coach “.
 

yoshukai

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The line about good coaches is that a good coach will take his'n and beat your'n and then turn around and take your'n and beat his'n. I think that's from Bum Phillips.

Calipari some time ago decided he wanted his players to learn to play basketball. He was prepping them to earn their living by it. So, at the end of games, he expects them to recognize situations and take initiative. Fans just want to win games. Calipari wants his players to learn how to win games. That gap (and Calipari's politics) is why we have the latest frenzy.
I don’t know if I agree with that but it’s a refreshing point of view and a respectful post . Kudos .
 
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