Sharpe to NBA

know1

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I don't blame Cal. I think he knew it was 50/50 at best, and rolled the dice. I'm critical of Cal, but give him a pass on this one. ...that's unless knew he wasn't playing
At some point, Cal knew he wasn't playing. How early he knew that is debatable, but Cal should have played him this year and when he didn't play, he should have dismissed him. Instead, he made jokes about getting there early to watch him warm up. We have a clown show for a coach and our program deserves better. A lot better.
 

SemperFiCat

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At some point, Cal knew he wasn't playing. How early he knew that is debatable, but Cal should have played him this year and when he didn't play, he should have dismissed him. Instead, he made jokes about getting there early to watch him warm up. We have a clown show for a coach and our program deserves better. A lot better.
Agreed!
 

CatStucknWA

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How much of this was controlled/orchestrated by SS’s camp?
I’m not a Cal blow hard, but these kids’ “camps” these days have taken a lot of positional authority away from coaches….
 

TFCat11

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I guess I need some clarification: IF he graduated in May 2021, as the story is claiming, then why didn't he play at UK this year? He could've been here in the fall, played an entire year of major UK basketball, landed even better NIL deals, and developed even more.

Why didn't that happen?
Because the clown had NO. INTENTION. TO. EVER. PLAY. CBB. Period!

Cal was a co-conspirator and mastermind behind the whole charade, simply so his name could be associated with Sharpe’s, if Sharpe were to ever become a star in the league!

Cal’s ego told him he could get away with it, so he ran with it! Bet your a$$, when Cal does address it, he’ll make sure to talk down to the fanbase in the process. Watch!
 

TFCat11

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The University had to know when he graduated. You don’t just show up at college without a diploma and transcripts.
Yep! Don’t worry, Cal assured the admissions department all was good!

For me, this is about SS anymore. This is about having a HC that’s dishonest, disingenuous, and is bankrupt of all integrity! Cal can EAD until he leaves!
 

DaDirtyLeb69

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The amount of UK media trying to spin this is hilarious to me. I’ve seen Rowland about the only one saying it’s BS. TJ Walker is slurping Cal right now.
Cal deserves some blame but he couldn’t of known they were going to lie about when he graduated, now cal should have had a back up plan and gone and locked up nick smith
 
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JoeSwag

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7 minutes ago..


What an absolute **** show to let this guy use UK's facilities and PR team and wear a jersey as if he actually played. He's not a Kentucky player.

This is the sports version of a guy who interviewed with an Army recruiter but never served, acting as if he has valor and shows up to Veteran's Day parades. 😆
 

UK96GOAT

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I’m glad Sharpe is leaving. He has no heart and is not a team player. I hope he has a long healthy life but a short NBA career.
 

Catsfan29

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The University had to know when he graduated. You don’t just show up at college without a diploma and transcripts.

The dept reviewing this will know but they can't legally pass that information to Cal.

What are you talking about?

People are looking for an excuse to blame Cal, saying he should've known Sharpe's graduation date.

The issue is student documents, such as transcripts, are reviewed by admissions, subsequently compliance, to determine admission. None of this information can legally be relayed to Cal or anyone else at the university.

The only thing that would be relayed to Cal would be whether or not the student is eligible to play.

It would be illegal for admissions to pass information to Cal about anything reflected on Sharpe's transcripts or other documents.

It would be a violation of FERPA.

My first post, that ya'll didn't understand, was simply saying the dept (department) reviewing this (transcripts/diploma) will know but cannot legally pass that information to Cal.
 

ScottGreene22

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Evidently CAL during at least 2 games during the season went to grab Sharpe to put him in the game and for whatever reason changed his mind or was told no. Matt Jones said today he was a game 2 rows back of the KY bench when one of them happened. Guy isn’t a KY player if he leaves without ever playing a second for the CATS.
 

DudahUK

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People are looking for an excuse to blame Cal, saying he should've known Sharpe's graduation date.

The issue is student documents, such as transcripts, are reviewed by admissions, subsequently compliance, to determine admission. None of this information can legally be relayed to Cal or anyone else at the university.

The only thing that would be relayed to Cal would be whether or not the student is eligible to play.

It would be illegal for admissions to pass information to Cal about anything reflected on Sharpe's transcripts or other documents.

It would be a violation of FERPA.

My first post, that ya'll didn't understand, was simply saying the dept (department) reviewing this (transcripts/diploma) will know but cannot legally pass that information to Cal.
Umm, they would know if he was eligible, therefor Cal would know he was eligible.
 
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BigBlueFanGA

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People are looking for an excuse to blame Cal, saying he should've known Sharpe's graduation date.

The issue is student documents, such as transcripts, are reviewed by admissions, subsequently compliance, to determine admission. None of this information can legally be relayed to Cal or anyone else at the university.

The only thing that would be relayed to Cal would be whether or not the student is eligible to play.

It would be illegal for admissions to pass information to Cal about anything reflected on Sharpe's transcripts or other documents.

It would be a violation of FERPA.

My first post, that ya'll didn't understand, was simply saying the dept (department) reviewing this (transcripts/diploma) will know but cannot legally pass that information to Cal.
This makes no sense. Where are you getting this from? Coaches certainly know about grades but they can't know about a graduation date? Huh?
 

kentuckycriedfricken

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This makes no sense. Where are you getting this from? Coaches certainly know about grades but they can't know about a graduation date? Huh?
His argument is that FERPA prohibits dissemination of PII, Personally Identifiable Information, from students without their or the parents' consent. This includes educational records.

The problem with his LOGIC is that if the parents objected to CALIPARI knowing Sharpe's graduation date, that should have been a RED FLAG for Calipari and he should have confronted them and resolved the issue one way or another.

So Cal either knew and didn't care, or he didn't know and wanted plausible deniability, or he's just an absolute moron.
 
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SparksCat

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Congrats to the haters. Is this better than a first round loss to you?
What is your deal? There are no winners in this situation for Kentucky or Kentucky fans. Who is happy about any of this but you and Ed987654321? I have no idea why you even bother posting.
 

CatsFan4Evr

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The dept reviewing this will know but they can't legally pass that information to Cal.
That's ********. Calipari as an employee of the University of Kentucky is permitted to have that information. I don't know where you people get this stuff.
 

kybassfan

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What is your deal? There are no winners in this situation for Kentucky or Kentucky fans. Who is happy about any of this but you and Ed987654321? I have no idea why you even bother posting.
Notice I didn't mention a thing about Kentucky fans. I agree with you. Never said one thing about Kentucky fans. I just mentioned the haters. They like to pretend to be fans but they are not. They like to hide in the blue mist but they stand out as not being fans at all.
 

kybassfan

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That's ********. Calipari as an employee of the University of Kentucky is permitted to have that information. I don't know where you people get this stuff.
That in fact is not true. I'm not even sure that the clearing house gets that. I think al you get is above the line or below the line. Hell I don't think parents are entitled to this information.
 

BigBlueFanGA

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His argument is that FERPA prohibits dissemination of PII, Personally Identifiable Information, from students without their or the parents' consent. This includes educational records.

The problem with his LOGIC is that if the parents objected to CALIPARI knowing Sharpe's graduation date, that should have been a RED FLAG for Calipari and he should have confronted them and resolved the issue one way or another.

So Cal either knew and didn't care, or he didn't know and wanted plausible deniability, or he's just an absolute moron.
Of course they know, its a part of the recruiting process. His point is absurd. They may get specific permission but the coach certainly knows.
 

CatsFan4Evr

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"As part of the annual notice of the student’s FERPA rights, the school is required to identify which school officials (i.e., which offices and employees) have a legitimate educational interest and may access the student’s education records without the student’s consent. The school must also control redisclosure of records."

If you guys think the athletics departments of major schools aren't considered "school officials", you're crazy. An athletics department cannot function without ensuring academic eligibility.
 

Catsfan29

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That's ********. Calipari as an employee of the University of Kentucky is permitted to have that information. I don't know where you people get this stuff.
That's not how things work. The admissions dept giving Cal information related to his players is a violation of FERPA.

Just because Cal is an employee of UK doesn't mean he's permitted to have that information. It stays within the bounds of those who need it to use for admissions purposes, compliance and admissions.

Cal or any other university employee cannot waltz in and ask for student information. Again, it's a violation of FERPA.

Half of my entire work experience has been in university compliance across 2 universities. FERPA is one of the first things you're trained on.

Shoot, if your sibling wanted to know information on your transcripts or any other student documents you've submitted, they're not allowed as it's a violation of FERPA.

FERPA is basically HIPAA but in the realm of higher education.
 

CatsFan4Evr

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That's not how things work. The admissions dept giving Cal information related to his players is a violation of FERPA.

Just because Cal is an employee of UK doesn't mean he's permitted to have that information. It stays within the bounds of those who need it to use for admissions purposes, compliance and admissions.

Cal or any other university employee cannot waltz in and ask for student information. Again, it's a violation of FERPA.

Half of my entire work experience has been in university compliance across 2 universities. FERPA is one of the first things you're trained on.

Shoot, if your sibling wanted to know information on your transcripts or any other student documents you've submitted, they're not allowed as it's a violation of FERPA.

FERPA is basically HIPAA but in the realm of higher education.
So you're telling me that Calipari cannot legally know for certain whether a player graduated in May or December of a year?
 

Backer cutter

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At some point, Cal knew he wasn't playing. How early he knew that is debatable, but Cal should have played him this year and when he didn't play, he should have dismissed him. Instead, he made jokes about getting there early to watch him warm up. We have a clown show for a coach and our program deserves better. A lot better.
First off, we’re on the same side. And it’s a good post, but it’s overlooking the main thing just like the rest of the post on this. Cal doesn’t give a **** . He isn’t for UK. Doesn’t matter when or if he knew because he didn’t give it the first thought what would play out. He knows fans for the most part don’t think outside the box, so he lets it snowball to his benefit. UK fans are being played like a fiddle, not Cal. The sooner it’s understood how he works, the better. But it’s getting late in the game, and fans are still arguing over the wrong points. All good points but not THE point, the one that brings change. Oh hell, I give up. Carry on.
 

Catsfan29

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So you're telling me that Calipari cannot legally know for certain whether a player graduated in May or December of a year?
Correct, unless the student relayed it personally. If not that information stays within the department that reviews student documents: admissions, registrar, compliance, etc.

From the perspective of the coach all they care about is whether or not the student can play. Compliance telling Cal a student is eligible to play doesn't violate FERPA as it doesn't give out personal information.
 

CatsFan4Evr

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Correct, unless the student relayed it personally. If not that information stays within the department that reviews student documents: admissions, registrar, compliance, etc.

From the perspective of the coach all they care about is whether or not the student can play. Compliance telling Cal a student is eligible to play doesn't violate FERPA as it doesn't give out personal information.
So if this is the case (and I truly believe you), how did Eric Bledsoe's transcripts get leaked to the media by Richard Pitino back in 2009? How would the coaches have had access if FERPA is supposed to keep that information under lock and key?
 

*Fox2Monk*

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At some point, Cal knew he wasn't playing. How early he knew that is debatable, but Cal should have played him this year and when he didn't play, he should have dismissed him. Instead, he made jokes about getting there early to watch him warm up. We have a clown show for a coach and our program deserves better. A lot better.
Now the story is conflicting dates of his graduation that Cal was made aware of in October, that’s why he didn’t play. Not draft stock, the handlers told his parent the May dates were rock solid so now he’s free to go. So Cal saying all that BS about 100% coming back all year, was BS.
 

Spanish Radio

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Coaches fall under those campus personnel with a legitimate educational interest so they can see their players records. They can't share them with anyone else except others that fall under the FERPA clearance list.
 
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JoeSwag

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Here comes the massive PR campaign to save Cal and UK.


What a load of BS.

So is Sharpe's school like not a legit accredited school or what because I do not understand this absurdity of being murky on if a kid graduated high school or not.

Did you walk at graduation? Do you have a diploma? What's the date of that diploma? What does your transcripts say?

If you graduated in May, what were you doing in the fall?