Could Lakers have interest in Cal?

AthleticCat

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He won a World Championship with everyone healthy.

This year he has had to deal with a GM that signed Russell Westbrook, traded Rondo and had their best 2 players injured.


You are the crazy one.
LMAO, he won when teams were in a bubble and didn't have to travel or play with fans in attendance. What was the excuse when they barely made the playoffs last year and were bounced 1st round?

Vogel would be an ignorant hire.
 

Nuke99m.

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Did he have sole responsibility of hiring Cal after the BCG debacle? I thought I heard somewhere that Mike Pratt had his hand in it.
I don't think so but it might have involved an advising committee. I remember Pratt saying the first time he met Billy at a practice, he knew it wasn't going to work.
 
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Gromcat_rivals

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@ralphdaltonfan have to disagree with you on Stackhouse. I think that would be a huge mistake. He’s got a bad personality for the position and he’s a UNC guy. He has no loyalties to Kentucky and even if he were successful here which I doubt very seriously, he’d be gone if Hubert Doesn’t work out long term.

Just think it would be a big mistake. And I really want no part of UNC at UK.
 

JAC71

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I actually will take Torres stance which is UK fans want to CONTEND/COMPETE for championships every year. You all are loyal to the program and as long as they are doing what it takes and showing the program cares about Kentucky....you'll support them. If UK loses to a team in Elite 8, Final Four it stinks, but you are right there with the program. Now you can't excuse St. Peter's. Missing the Tournament. Ruining all the traditional events/games/outings that Kentucky loves.

I think there are numerous guys who would jump at this job. Hypothetically you open this up, you aren't replacing the Cal from '10-'15 who was fantastic, you are replacing the version who is ducking IU, won't play in Maui or Holiday Tournaments, won't do home/homes, talks of losses as not mattering, has bent the knee to Rick Barnes of all coaches, has not recruited at the level that he once did--but isn't getting guys to stay either. It would be time for someone to come take this job.

Personally, I'd look at a younger guy to grow-but my top young coach was Todd Golden who UF just hired. If I went current top guys, I'd make a run at Scott Drew, Eric Musselman, still not as down on Nate Oats as others, also like Tommy Lloyd but doubt he'd leave Arizona, and I'd have been fine if Kenny Payne got a chance here but he's at U of L so he'd out. For a guy who I'm intrigued by I'll throw a name some would be shocked by mentioning but I like Jerry Stackhouse. Stackhouse is someone I could see winning big at a better program. He's type I like in that he played at highest level and can relate to elite players in being recruited, pressure of blueblood program, trying to get to NBA, etc...but understand if some think that's crazy. Think he's really doing right things to get Vanderbilt competitive and recruiting very well with some guys who are underrated but will be good college players--like the guard Noah Shelby a lot.
Well I hope like hell Calipari figures it out this season because I can’t see Drew or Musselman taking this job and other than those two no one else intrigues me. Stackhouse woukd never take the job due to his allegiance to the Tarheels but I do like his coaching style.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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LMAO, he won when teams were in a bubble and didn't have to travel or play with fans in attendance. What was the excuse when they barely made the playoffs last year and were bounced 1st round?

Vogel would be an ignorant hire.
He won a championship that everyone else had the same reasonable shot to win, but couldn't.

You downplaying that is ignorant, but you're the lord of the contrarian flies, so please continue to do what you do best...
 

Montana81

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RalphDaltonFan

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Well I hope like hell Calipari figures it out this season because I can’t see Drew or Musselman taking this job and other than those two no one else intrigues me. Stackhouse woukd never take the job due to his allegiance to the Tarheels but I do like his coaching style.
Drew may be more open to it...move a little closer to family and with longtime trusted Assistant Jerome Tang now the HC at Kansas State, he may be open to taking a different job if it's the right one. Can't see Mussleman leaving but he's got massive ego.

Never know....I'd doubt it too but Stackhouse really wanted that UNC job....and Roy Williams went to Kansas before back to UNC. I think he's a damn good coach who has chance to be great if he keeps recruiting because he can coach.
 

AthleticCat

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He won a championship that everyone else had the same reasonable shot to win, but couldn't.

You downplaying that is ignorant, but you're the lord of the contrarian flies, so please continue to do what you do best...
Lol, I can see you didn't watch. If you remember correctly, you will know that was during this little event called covid-19 and there were these little things called protocols in effect. So that meant players that were exposed or sick with anything couldn't play. 😉

What's contrarian about it? 🤔
 

Kybluedude

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If Kentucky can get Lloyd then I would be for it, just don’t know if he would leave Arizona after one year, musselman to me is more likely to happen and I think the fanbase would really get behind him if cal ends up leaving
Lloyd already has a signed contract sitting with the Gonzaga AD that he is the next coach after Few retires.
 
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ukdesi

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Vogel has no experience with recruiting or the college game. His style of offense has varied over the years. I know at Indiana his offense revolved around feeding the post. He's adapted to different personnel on different teams, but overall seems like a pro coach through and through to me. Maybe he could succeed at UK, not sure.
 
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ruppsrunt1

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Please let us all help begok reach his ultimate goal in lala land!!

I do wish the begok desire be granted and he achieves his activist goals where they will certainly be applauded and appreciated.

go get um begok--begok and lala land--a match made in HEAVEN.

rr
 

RalphDaltonFan

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@ralphdaltonfan have to disagree with you on Stackhouse. I think that would be a huge mistake. He’s got a bad personality for the position and he’s a UNC guy. He has no loyalties to Kentucky and even if he were successful here which I doubt very seriously, he’d be gone if Hubert Doesn’t work out long term.

Just think it would be a big mistake. And I really want no part of UNC at UK.
Understand the hesitancy, but I like the idea of bringing Carolina style offensive basketball and a guy who has played/been at all levels to recruit at a school like this. It helps.

But I really wanted Todd Golden to hold off another year or two. So we'll get to see if he's the guy I think he can be--noticed Sean Farnham was on with Goodman this week and mentioned he thought Golden would win a National Championship in the next 6 yrs too. So he's drinking the same kool aid, we'll find out if it's legit or Jim Jones laced.
 

DaDirtyLeb69

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He would not be a terrible stop gap option at all. That dude is one of the top 5 coaches of the modern era and arguably the greatest defensive mind the game has ever seen.

But barnhardt would never consider him.
That’s exactly what my dad said he said he wouldn’t mind pitino at all but I don’t there is a universe where that ever happens again
 

Wildcats1st

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I actually will take Torres stance which is UK fans want to CONTEND/COMPETE for championships every year. You all are loyal to the program and as long as they are doing what it takes and showing the program cares about Kentucky....you'll support them. If UK loses to a team in Elite 8, Final Four it stinks, but you are right there with the program. Now you can't excuse St. Peter's. Missing the Tournament. Ruining all the traditional events/games/outings that Kentucky loves.

I think there are numerous guys who would jump at this job. Hypothetically you open this up, you aren't replacing the Cal from '10-'15 who was fantastic, you are replacing the version who is ducking IU, won't play in Maui or Holiday Tournaments, won't do home/homes, talks of losses as not mattering, has bent the knee to Rick Barnes of all coaches, has not recruited at the level that he once did--but isn't getting guys to stay either. It would be time for someone to come take this job.

Personally, I'd look at a younger guy to grow-but my top young coach was Todd Golden who UF just hired. If I went current top guys, I'd make a run at Scott Drew, Eric Musselman, still not as down on Nate Oats as others, also like Tommy Lloyd but doubt he'd leave Arizona, and I'd have been fine if Kenny Payne got a chance here but he's at U of L so he'd out. For a guy who I'm intrigued by I'll throw a name some would be shocked by mentioning but I like Jerry Stackhouse. Stackhouse is someone I could see winning big at a better program. He's type I like in that he played at highest level and can relate to elite players in being recruited, pressure of blueblood program, trying to get to NBA, etc...but understand if some think that's crazy. Think he's really doing right things to get Vanderbilt competitive and recruiting very well with some guys who are underrated but will be good college players--like the guard Noah Shelby a lot.
Throw the kitchen sink at musselman.
 

Wildcats1st

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Not against it at all, and he's got the ego that would take on challenge...but he's got a damn good thing going right now and Arkansas is throwing the money to help with NIL too.
He’s got the nba connections. He’s a winner. Hungry like you say. He would explode at UK and I don’t think he would want to be lifer bc once he wins in college I believe he will want another big nba gig. The show he’s created at Arkansas would follow him to Lexington. I read an article recently about his wife not wanting him to go to Walmart with her. She didn’t sound too excited about Fayetteville
 

Woodrow24

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Drew may be more open to it...move a little closer to family and with longtime trusted Assistant Jerome Tang now the HC at Kansas State, he may be open to taking a different job if it's the right one. Can't see Mussleman leaving but he's got massive ego.

Never know....I'd doubt it too but Stackhouse really wanted that UNC job....and Roy Williams went to Kansas before back to UNC. I think he's a damn good coach who has chance to be great if he keeps recruiting because he can coach.
That guy is one of those fans that thinks that no one will want the Kentucky job when Cal leaves. He’s posted that in threads for awhile now. Makes no sense to me but it’s his opinion.
 

Wildcats1st

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Understand the hesitancy, but I like the idea of bringing Carolina style offensive basketball and a guy who has played/been at all levels to recruit at a school like this. It helps.

But I really wanted Todd Golden to hold off another year or two. So we'll get to see if he's the guy I think he can be--noticed Sean Farnham was on with Goodman this week and mentioned he thought Golden would win a National Championship in the next 6 yrs too. So he's drinking the same kool aid, we'll find out if it's legit or Jim Jones laced.
As a UK fan I don’t want anyone from UNC or Duke running out program. There are plenty of options that aren’t UNC or duke related.

if we want to get on track with some UK blood hire pitino for 3 years with Vogel his assistant or coach in waiting.
 

Wildcats1st

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I'm not seeing why the Lakers would want him.

The knock on Cal is that he refuses to adapt to a more modern offense. He's still running what he ran in 2012. No one in the NBA plays like that. And you're telling me the NBA wants THAT guy?

We're struggling to find success because of it. But the NBA wants him anyways? I gotta call BS.
In the nba all cal has to do it motivate and let the players play. It’s easy money. He doesn’t have to recruit doesn’t have to recalibrate every year. You don’t have to be the best x and o coach to be successful in the nba especially with the Lakers talent.
 

Wildcats1st

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Not against it at all, and he's got the ego that would take on challenge...but he's got a damn good thing going right now and Arkansas is throwing the money to help with NIL too.
The other thing I’ll say on musselman is Arkansas is definitely a stepping stone for him. I think if it were presented properly he’d pack up and leave immediately
 

JAC71

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That guy is one of those fans that thinks that no one will want the Kentucky job when Cal leaves. He’s posted that in threads for awhile now. Makes no sense to me but it’s his opinion.
I’m the guy that not only thinks it would be difficult to find a can’t miss type coach but also believes that fans will not give them the proper time to turn things around, just my opinion.
 

DaDirtyLeb69

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The other thing I’ll say on musselman is Arkansas is definitely a stepping stone for him. I think if it were presented properly he’d pack up and leave immediately
I agree he seems exactly like cal in that he likes the attention, he would get double the attention he gets now at Kentucky
 
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DaDirtyLeb69

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I’m the guy that not only thinks it would be difficult to find a can’t miss type coach but also believes that fans will not give them the proper time to turn things around, just my opinion.
The patience part is key I agree with you there that’s why to me Lloyd drew and musselman are the only serious coaches Kentucky should go after, because donavon wright and brad stevens aren’t coming here
 
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