Barnes on John Fulkerson

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I mean, Cal called Jones a selfish mother Fu**er on national television, said he didn't know who Vanderbilt was, and has made odd comments about Allen. Plus, had the issues last year with Fletcher and the year before with Hagans. Not sure this is all that bad.
 

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I mean, Cal called Jones a selfish mother Fu**er on national television, said he didn't know who Vanderbilt was, and has made odd comments about Allen. Plus, had the issues last year with Fletcher and the year before with Hagans. Not sure this is all that bad.
There’s a difference between saying that in a team huddle and to the media. Anyone who has played sports for a decent coach has been cussed out.
 
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There’s a difference between saying that in a team huddle and to the media. Anyone who has played sports for a decent coach has been cussed out.
I've watched sports a long time. I don't recall ever seeing a coach scream that at a player as he walked by the bench. I'm sure in private or practice it happens often, but not usually like that in a game.
 
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Holy cow that's awful. I don't like fulkerson but it's for all the right reasons. He's tough, makes hustle plays, and seems to always be making a positive difference for his team.

I hope a UK coach never says anything like this publicly. It's awful
Dude you’re acting like Barnes shot him. I applaud Barnes for being honest. Fulkerson has been there 6 years. Its not like he’s a freshman.
 
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I've watched sports a long time. I don't recall ever seeing a coach scream that at a player as he walked by the bench. I'm sure in private or practice it happens often, but not usually like that in a game.
Bill Parcells was famous for blasting his players and coaches in public. He won 2 Super Bowls and his players loved him.
 

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Fulkerson has been a big reason for their success the last few years. Pretty ****** of Barnes. Let's hope it creates turmoil.
 
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Bill Parcells was famous for blasting his players and coaches in public. He won 2 Super Bowls and his players loved him.
That’s also the pro level where I’m completely fine with it. Unless you’re Urban Meyer and you’re doing it to prop your own stupid decisions up. Those are full grown men who’s entire job is to play a game.

Doing it at the collegiate level and below is kinda crappy. I don’t like it when Cal does it either. They’re still students learning the game

Is it the most awful thing? No. But it’s still kinda crappy thing to do to say an 18 year old kid. I know Fulky is like 50 by now but still; say something like “His play wasn’t great today and that’s something we will work on”. Player still gets called out and you don’t crap all over him at the same time.

At the pro level? Sure. Call him everything in he book.
 
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That’s also the pro level where I’m completely fine with it. Unless you’re Urban Meyer and you’re doing it to prop you’re own stupid decisions up. Those are full grown men who’s entire job is to play a game.

Doing it at the collegiate level and below is kinda crappy. I don’t like it when Cal does it either. They’re still students learning the game

Is it the most awful thing? No. But it’s still kinda crappy thing to do to say an 18 year old kid. I know Fulky is like 50 by now but still; say something like “His play wasn’t great today and that’s something we will work on”. Player still gets called out and you don’t crap all over him at the same time.

At the pro level? Sure. Call him everything in he book.

While I agree that Barnes could have chosen his words a little more tactfully, two things to note:

#1. I am a UK grad and fully understand the value of education. But after the precedent set by the UNC case, big-time college athletic programs would be stupid to make their athletes attend class and do schoolwork anymore. I mean why should they? All they have to do is make sure a certain number of non-athlete “students” don’t have to go to class either, and they are home free. So you can’t really use the student argument anymore. UNC burned that to the ground.

#2. you can’t really use the “kids” argument either with NIL now. You don’t think Fulky is making money? Vawl fans love his goofy ***, and I’m sure he has parlayed that into a few lucrative deals. So for all intents and purposes he is now a professional, and any criticism is fair game.
 

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I guess the part Barnes says for him to step aside is the worse part.that can go 2 ways.Fulkerson gets pissed and says to hell with it or he gets pissed and becomes Supernan.
Should have been handled in private but that's just my opinion.Either way to let it air out to the media only creates turmoil
 
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While I agree that Barnes could have chosen his words a little more tactfully, two things to note:

#1. I am a UK grad and fully understand the value of education. But after the precedent set by the UNC case, big-time college athletic programs would be stupid to make their athletes attend class and do schoolwork anymore. I mean why should they? All they have to do is make sure a certain number of non-athlete “students” don’t have to go to class either, and they are home free. So you can’t really use the student argument anymore. UNC burned that to the ground.

#2. you can’t really use the “kids” argument either with NIL now. You don’t think Fulky is making money? Vawl fans love his goofy ***, and I’m sure he has parlayed that into a few lucrative deals. So for all intents and purposes he is now a professional, and any criticism is fair game.

Just because UNC broke the model doesn’t mean some of these guys aren’t trying to actually get an education while they’re at it.

Im not bashing Barnes at all his last sentence is completely fine. I don’t care for the “move along” comment. That’s something you do in private imo.
 

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People Are different. Fulkerson will.either fold or step up his game. We hope he folds. He is just a good player who's had a few decent games anyways
 

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I guess the part Barnes says for him to step aside is the worse part.that can go 2 ways.Fulkerson gets pissed and says to hell with it or he gets pissed and becomes Supernan.
Should have been handled in private but that's just my opinion.Either way to let it air out to the media only creates turmoil
Yep. It’s a slightly different situation here as sports take place in public, but a boss does have to be careful calling somebody out like that. You run off a good solid contributor and it can come back an haunt you (Huggins).
 
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That’s also the pro level where I’m completely fine with it. Unless you’re Urban Meyer and you’re doing it to prop your own stupid decisions up. Those are full grown men who’s entire job is to play a game.

Doing it at the collegiate level and below is kinda crappy. I don’t like it when Cal does it either. They’re still students learning the game

Is it the most awful thing? No. But it’s still kinda crappy thing to do to say an 18 year old kid. I know Fulky is like 50 by now but still; say something like “His play wasn’t great today and that’s something we will work on”. Player still gets called out and you don’t crap all over him at the same time.

At the pro level? Sure. Call him everything in he book.
18 year old kids get yelled at everyday in the military. (Including me back in the day and currently my son). It didn’t hurt us and it hasn’t hurt any other 18 year old that has gone thru basic training.
 

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18 year old kids get yelled at everyday in the military. (Including me back in the day and currently my son). It didn’t hurt us and it hasn’t hurt any other 18 year old that has gone thru basic training.
That’s a false equivalency if I’ve ever heard one. Let me know when basketball becomes life or death. And again, your drill sergeant didn’t call the press to say what a sack of crap you were in block that morning either.

Getting yelled at when training for a job where a mistake means loss of life (whether yours or someone else’s) is a lot different than say yelling at 18 year old kid in a pizza place.

The issue isn’t Barnes being tough on Fulky. It’s how he said it and where he chose to say it.

Im fine with his last sentence. His first one needs to be in private with Fulky.
 
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Bill Parcells was famous for blasting his players and coaches in public. He won 2 Super Bowls and his players loved him.
I have no issues with it. I thought Barnes was being honest and was respectful in his words. I am just bringing light to the hypocrisy of our fans when Cal has said and done worse. And I don't have an issue with what Cal did either. As long as you aren't abusing them, I see no issue being blunt and honest.
 
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I think Barnes is right Fulkerson has not performed as well as he did in the past.
 

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Since Barnes values honesty so much someone should ask him how he just made one final 4 over the years with the amount of talent he has had especially at Texas.
 

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It is Cal hate. When every thread turns into an excuse to bash Cal what do you call it? Nice win last night and dumb asses find a thread about Barnes to bash Cal. Same guys same Bull **** every thread. Idiots don’t enjoy wins. Spend more time bashing Cal than enjoying wins. Bunch of miserable bastards. I have expressed my feelings.