Yes. It’s true.
Go look it up.
And yes it’s the classy thing to do. Can you imagine the hate fest if Cal said “no”?
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Go look it up.
And yes it’s the classy thing to do. Can you imagine the hate fest if Cal said “no”?
It's going to be good enough to where it doesn't affect our seeding I'll bet.
The bottom line is when the committee is sitting around determining seeding (which lets be honest is the only reason people care about this number to begin with) it's going to be resume based. If UK beats good teams in the non conference and we have four opportunities coming up and we do the same in the conference schedule, 1) the NET is going to raise naturally and 2) we'll get the seed we deserve.
Like no one is going to sit around and say oh I dunno about this team because they have more Quad 4 wins than Quad 3 wins. That's never been the case and won't be this season.
We just need to do our part tho. I don't expect going to KU and getting a W but I do expect at least 2 of 3 from the others.
Where I think it could hurt a little is if we split our decent non conference games. Already lost to Duke. We better win the rest. Otherwise our non conference was so pitiful I think it could. We'll see. All we have to do is win.
It was mentioned during the game. And on KSR. You’ll just have to look around.
Carter Hendricksen
That’s the kid from Kentucky. Played at LCA.
I completely agree with this. Even if we could've had some more Ohio-like games, I think he wanted the opportunity to build confidence and tinker with lineups. You really can't do that against Ohio. A Quad-3 loss is more damaging than a 5-0 record in Quad-4 games.
Also, a couple of the games are part of that "tournament" so we can have more games overall if I'm not mistaken.
I never thought I would see a season like last season.
And never thought I’d see the day that we are into December and our SOS is 349th out of 358 schools.
Cal is really taking us to ALL time lows.
And never thought I’d see the day that we are into December and our SOS is 349th out of 358 schools.
Cal is really taking us to ALL time lows.
It certainly helps that our conference is good this season.
I think this used to be a bigger issue in past seasons. This season tho we are going to have so many opportunities for Quad 1 and Quad 2 wins. Opportunities certainly won't be the issue.
There are seven top 25 teams in Kenpom from the SEC. We play some of those teams more than once.
If UK doesn't get a good seeding this year, they will only have themselves to blame.
This is true.
I have my concerns that playing Notre Dame is going to feel like playing Duke all over again after this buffet of cupcakes we have feasted on over the past 6 games. If the guys go out and boat race ND on Saturday that will go a long way in alleviating those concerns.
There would be no “hatefest”, because we wouldn’t know he said “no.” And, even if we did, not even UK fans are irrational enough to think we should select opponents based upon which ones have a player from Ky.
If that really is why we scheduled UNF, then it’s pretty friggin stupid.
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Can't find it.
You're telling me North Florida calls, and says "hey we have a guy from Lexington on our team and we'd like to play a game in Rupp." And Cal says, good sportsmanship ... of course! Like I said I just want to read about this but I can't find it.
Exactly. I'm wtf'ing over here on this one. It's good sportsmanship to just say YES to every one that calls and says "hey we have a guy from Kentucky on our team and we want to play you!" That doesn't make sense.
And hatefest ... that's hilarious. Why the hell would any of us even care? We wouldn't. I promise we wouldn't. Maybe the kid's family. And even they'd be dumb to get mad over it.
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While imperfect the predicted team sheet for UK on Warren Nolan website has UK playing 12 Quad 1 games, 2 Quad 2 games, 6 Quad 3 games and 11 Quad 4 games. That is based on RPI (I can't seem to find one based on NET). But it just goes to show that this team is going to have a ton of chances to get a decent seed.
Yep I agree. This will work itself out one way or the other.
There is zero doubt in my mind that UK this season is going to get the seeding the deserve. There won't be any surprises.
These non conference ones coming up are key. UL at home should be a W. KU on the road most likely an L. It's ND away and OSU on a neutral court that are the big ones IMO.
Right now just a 2 point favorite @ ND and a 1 point favorite vs OSU on a neutral court.
These are the toss ups we need to win in order to get a good seed IMO
Actually I think one of the announcers said that the Albany coach, Dwayne Killings, had been a ball-boy for Cal at UMass. So apparently they've known each other for a long time.
But ya know. Had he said no, and it got out, “Cal hates Kentucky kids”.
We all know it.
Good grief. Cal does something nice and now it’s an issue.
I get it if it’s like your hometown, or say a former UK coach or player or Kentucky native with ties to Lexington.
Ball boy might be pushing it a bit.
That makes more sense then. All those teams still suck...so UK should have scheduled Texas State, Wake & Belmont I guess.
I can't believe the team that beat Kentucky and Gonzaga is ranked ahead of us with all of our quality wins.
Yep those big wins at home vs Belmont and on a neutral court vs Wake really put them over the top lol
UK and a lot of other teams would be undefeated with LSUs schedule.
LSU IMO is going to be one of those teams the committee looks at the NET number and then looks at the lack of Quad 1 wins and doesn't give them nearly as high a seed as their NET would suggest.
Obviously this can change as SEC will afford them a bunch of chances but if the season ended today does anyone think LSU is getting a 1 seed? No lol.
Obviously this can change as SEC will afford them a bunch of chances but if the season ended today does anyone think LSU is getting a 1 seed? No lol.
There's no issue, I just think that's a goofy reason to play someone lol.
No one on the planet would have been mad at Cal had he said no to that aside from maybe one of the Lexington kid's parents.
That can't be true. If so that is patently absurd. There are kids playing all over the country from Kentucky. North Florida doesn't bring anything else to the table besides that. There has to be more than just that.
Dontaie is from Kentucky yet he barely got to see the court last year. But Cal all of a sudden is about scheduling some random because they have a kid from this state?
Not buying that.
Really glad to see this post. I'm sitting here looking around wondering "does anyone else see this ****?!"
It CAN'T be true. There absolutely has to be more to it than that. It's more likely we randomly scheduled North Florida and then found out later there's a Lexington kid on that team.
You are really really reaching here. It’s true that our fans can be a bit irrational, but we’re not THAT crazy.
I can fathom no circumstances where the fans would be mad at Cal for declining to schedule the 329th ranked team simply because it has a kid from Ky (who we’ve not even heard of) on the roster.
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Hard to believe anyone is defending the scheduling this year. It is bad for the fans, bad for team and player development, and bad for future seeding purposes.
Its not hard, don't schedule a long stretch of terrrrrrrible teams. There is an abundance of 50-180 programs to have selected.
But whatever, thats been said and done and if someone fails to see how trash of a decision it was, well they are a clown.
But at the VERY least, even if scheduling us against 6 teams we shouldn't be playing, for the love of God don't schedule them all in a row.
Give the fans something to look forward to. Give us a game or two in the cupcake stretch that will challenge our players to toughen up, progress in skills and as a team, for Cal to see things that may not be working with our guys vs tougher teams, and then use the insight gained from some tougher games to sharpen up vs the cupcakes.
Cupcake stretch without those growth opportunities means that our guys and our coaches are going to be thrown from like a video game on EasyMode jumping straight to Hardcore with how tough the SEC and our other OOC games are this year. Just stupid and a waste.
And brutal as a fan that also likes to follow all of college basketball, and reading about other teams and watching them and then everything regarding Kentucky is "TyTy playing well after the Duke game, got a good guard, and Oscar seems cool. But no real idea because they have been playing Highschool teams since the opener. The End".
Most excited I've been about our team in a few years, and it's been frustrating waiting out this stretch, especially knowing it wasted some good development time.
Its not hard, don't schedule a long stretch of terrrrrrrible teams. There is an abundance of 50-180 programs to have selected.
But whatever, thats been said and done and if someone fails to see how trash of a decision it was, well they are a clown.
But at the VERY least, even if scheduling us against 6 teams we shouldn't be playing, for the love of God don't schedule them all in a row.
Give the fans something to look forward to. Give us a game or two in the cupcake stretch that will challenge our players to toughen up, progress in skills and as a team, for Cal to see things that may not be working with our guys vs tougher teams, and then use the insight gained from some tougher games to sharpen up vs the cupcakes.
Cupcake stretch without those growth opportunities means that our guys and our coaches are going to be thrown from like a video game on EasyMode jumping straight to Hardcore with how tough the SEC and our other OOC games are this year. Just stupid and a waste.
And brutal as a fan that also likes to follow all of college basketball, and reading about other teams and watching them and then everything regarding Kentucky is "TyTy playing well after the Duke game, got a good guard, and Oscar seems cool. But no real idea because they have been playing Highschool teams since the opener. The End".
Most excited I've been about our team in a few years, and it's been frustrating waiting out this stretch, especially knowing it wasted some good development time.
The bold is the thing i’m honestly not sure about. Cal seems to think it’s better for player and team development. I’m skeptical as well. but i don’t remember us ever scheduling like this so we’ll have to see if he’s right. Someone else said it best, he basically scheduled Duke and 7 scrimmages to start the season.
He clearly thinks the ability to be able to work on lineups, system, player development without the fear of losing is better for our chances to do something meaningful than working towards building a seed resume and taking even the smallest chance of dropping a game.
The problem is people will define this method “working” in their own way. So cal will likely have validation from one portion of the fan base or another no matter what.
Ultimately, the fanbase wants to see some results in some big games. We'll all get over this embarrassingly ****** stretch of schedule if in March we are one of the best teams.
Montana,
Yeah I just think that if that is the route you are going to take, a sprinkling of slightly tougher competition among the box of cream puffs can give better insight to do all of the benefits to a greater degree.
Yeah I just think that if that is the route you are going to take, a sprinkling of slightly tougher competition among the box of cream puffs can give better insight to do all of the benefits to a greater degree.
Yeah, it made absolutely zero sense. It might be an added perk of scheduling them, but it sure as hell isn't the reason why we scheduled them. Thats laughably idiotic. There's more to it I'm sure.
Kinda odd. Usually Wade's teams have been really good on offense but terrible on defense. It be interesting to see if those numbers hold.
I may stop laughing soon. But I doubt it.5-0 v Quad 4!!!!!!
I would like better bunnies but like some have said Cal has ties to some of these teams and is doing them a favor. As of right now, we play 14 Quad 1 games this year. We have played 1 so 13 to go. I think our SOS will be just fine.
In contrast, Dook plays 8 Quad 1 games all year so they only have 5 Quad 1 games left all year compared to our 13.
In contrast, Dook plays 8 Quad 1 games all year so they only have 5 Quad 1 games left all year compared to our 13.