Speaking of homeruns.....

[512taylor]

Have we hit any this series?

 

[8dog]

We havent sniffed the track. But we did try to squeeze with the bases loaded and no one out in the second.

 

[KurtRambis4]

We did

that yesterday, in the 7th (or 8th?)...on b2b batters.....mind blowing. We are the only team that prefers squeezes over sac-flies every time haha.

 

[Bulldogg31]

No homers for the good guys, but Bama (DeMarini) has 3, including one today hit so hard to left that Vickerson never even moved

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

Our bats don't allow us the sac fly, bunting is our best bet

 

[drt7891]

how many homeruns have opposing teams hit on us this year?

 

[512taylor]

The dude that hit one today is batting .133???!!!

 

[rugbdawg]

We have already given up more

This year than the entire season last year.

 

[patdog]

Our bats don't allow us the sac fly, bunting is our best bet

Sad that there's really some truth to this. You have to hit a medium depth fly ball to get a sac fly.

 

[MSUFORLIFE]

We have hit 7 HR's this season and our opponents have hit 15. What bothers me is that everyone talks about how hard it is to hit one at our field yet the visiting teams have no trouble at all.

2013 (Easton bats)
Us: 30 HR's Opponents: 21
2014 (Adidas bats)
Us: 16 Opponents 13

This tells me that we really just suck at hitting this year. Although I do think the bats play a small part of it. No way that the ball Rea hit isn't a HR off of an Easton.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

In '13 we had a mlb caliber home run hitter that helped those stats slightly. We don't have a church league softball home run hitter on this team.

 

[Bulldogg31]

Just being honest, we should have been excited when Rea came to the plate in the 9th with two on and a chance to get us back in the game with one swing.

I just don't think that's a part of Bulldog baseball anymore. A guy with Rea's size and bat speed should be a threat to go deep if you make a bad pitch. That said, I kinda knew a grounder was coming. I do miss smashball.

 

[KurtRambis4]

Is this a

No way that the ball Rea hit isn't a HR off of an Easton.

fact, or just speculation?

 

[msudawg12]

We have hit 7 HR's this season and our opponents have hit 15. What bothers me is that everyone talks about how hard it is to hit one at our field yet the visiting teams have no trouble at all.

2013 (Easton bats)
Us: 30 HR's Opponents: 21
2014 (Adidas bats)
Us: 16 Opponents 13

This tells me that we really just suck at hitting this year. Although I do think the bats play a small part of it. No way that the ball Rea hit isn't a HR off of an Easton.

terrible use of statistics to prove a point. I agree that i really dislike the adidas bats and i dont think anyone can consider them great bats since we are still the only team using them, but your stats prove nothing.


First and foremost, the plain numbers.

We dropped 46% and our opponents dropped 38% in the same time frame. The bats aren’t the only kicker there.

Secondly, we lost renfroe.

2013 HR leaders
1) Renfroe – 16
2) Rea – 7
3) Pirtle – 2
4) Others with 1

2014 HR leaders
1) Rea – 5
2) Detz – 3
3) Pirtle/C. Brown – 2
4) Others with 1

All this shows is that once we lost Mr mashalot, renfroe, Rea lost his protection and we completely changed philosophy.

All that being said, please give us back our Easton bats

 

[57stratdawg]

We are giving up 0.68 HRs/Game which is tied with OM for 12th in the SEC. Only Florida gives up more at 0.78.

ETA:

To make this a little more user friendly, we can look at it in terms of innings. Assuming every game is 9 innings:

We are giving up a HR every 13.2 innings which is the same as OM.
Florida is the league's worse at 11.8 innings / HR.
Bama is the best in the league at 54 innings / HR.

 

[msudawg12]

We are giving up 0.68 HRs/Game which is tied with OM for 12th in the SEC. Only Florida gives up more at 0.78.

ETA:

To make this a little more user friendly, we can look at it in terms of innings. Assuming every game is 9 innings:

We are giving up a HR every 13.2 innings which is the same as OM.
Florida is the league's worse at 11.8 innings / HR.
Bama is the best in the league at 54 innings / HR.

very hard to go by those at this point though too.

main example: 14% of each team's schedule to this point is against their first SEC competition

Bama played the bunts (us) - we hit 0 HR and gave up 3
OM played LSU - LSU hit 4 and OM hit 2

just saying we need to let the schedule even out some before we compare that type of stat

 

[patdog]

Also, isn't Bama playing their home games at Regions Park in Hoover this year. They're going to be near the top of the league in HRs given up and near the bottom in HRs hit just because of that park.

 

[msudawg12]

Also, isn't Bama playing their home games at Regions Park in Hoover this year. They're going to be near the top of the league in HRs given up and near the bottom in HRs hit just because of that park.

great point

 

[57stratdawg]

That's correct, but forget about Bama. A&M is giving up a HR every 47 innings, that's about 3.5X less than we are.

I think the main point to take away from these numbers is that for some reason it's alot harder for MSU to hit HRs out of DNF than San Diego, Western Kentucky, Alabama, etc...

 

[Bulldogg31]

That's correct, but forget about Bama. A&M is giving up a HR every 47 innings, that's about 3.5X less than we are.

I think the main point to take away from these numbers is that for some reason it's alot harder for MSU to hit HRs out of DNF than San Diego, Western Kentucky, Alabama, etc...

TAMU has 21 homers in 21 games. I'm no math whiz but...

 

[57stratdawg]

But....?

 

[patdog]

Agree. I've always contended that the reason DNF is such a tough park to hit home runs is because we usually have very good pitching and a bunch of punch and judy hitters. Any park would be a tough park to hit home runs with a team like that playing in it.

 

[msudawg12]

That's correct, but forget about Bama. A&M is giving up a HR every 47 innings, that's about 3.5X less than we are.

I think the main point to take away from these numbers is that for some reason it's alot harder for MSU to hit HRs out of DNF than San Diego, Western Kentucky, Alabama, etc...

DNF has never been considered a hitter park though. Blue Bell has been a better hitters park in its short lifespan, despite having similar dimensions but being 10 feet longer in center

TAMU HR's since Blue Bell opened
2014 so far - 21
2013 - 26
2012 - 23


i dont think its any coincidence that TAMU is 21-0 this year with the team they're fielding right now.

For comparison

Stat.......TAMU.......MSU
gp..........21.........22
avg........309..........293
runs.......157.......148
hr.........21.........7
slg........471........383

The interesting thing in there is that we are playing two completely different styles of ball and the avg and run production isnt all that far off. This is the type of thing that shows that small ball can work.
The difference in wins is what you see below.

Stat.......TAMU.......MSU
IP..........191........199
ERA........1.65.......3.30
K's.........193........192
oppavg....221.......232
bb+hbp....56.........100


so what you see is the hitting isnt the issue (yes it could be better). We are getting buy at a similar k rate and pretty damn close opponent batting averages to be honest. The difference comes in the walks+hit by pitch category, which in turn throws the ERA waaaaay out of whack.

its till pitching more than hitting....

 

[Bulldogg31]

But....?

...that seems to be about one per game. Wonder what our record would be with that kind of pop in the lineup?

 

[57stratdawg]

My only issue with the offensive production is that we've only scored our season average of 7 runs a game once since the Arizona series. Everyone keeps going "we're scoring plenty of runs" but half our losses, the opponent has score 3 runs or less.

We scored half our season run total in the first 6 games.