Marcus Carr commits to Texas

[Gromcat_rivals]

Sure EE is good. So my bad, he had 2 good runs.

When did I say they are woopsies? Again, I just want to see what he can do at Texas before I anoint him "the next old guard BA."

You seem to think that because he was good at one school he will be better at another. It doesn't always work out that way.

I just think you are way more concerned about being able to say "I told you so" than seeing how things play out.

If he is good at Texas and he ends up at UK or another big school and is the next old guard BA, so be it. I haven't said he will or won't, but I'm also not making outlandish claims about him that aren't tied to reality.

You have consistently misstated his record. Your posting history proves this. You’ve had to be corrected several times.

I’m totally okay with seeing what he does at Texas. But some here have been consistently wrong about him to this point.

For some of you it takes him taking multiple programs to title games, winning titles, and dominating above every program in the country to be considered for the UK Job. Beard has done enough that no one credible would call it a bad hire. On the contrary, it would be lauded as a great hire.

Let’s see what he does, but it’s okay to say Beard is probably good enough at this point to risk it if we had to. Personally I’m with Gonzo, I think like him that Beard is a “tremendous coach” and “we could do a lot worse” and hopefully “Kansas doesn’t hire him”.

 

[HagginHall1999]

You have consistently misstated his record. Your posting history proves this. You’ve had to be corrected several times.

I’m totally okay with seeing what he does at Texas. But some here have been consistently wrong about him to this point.

For some of you it takes him taking multiple programs to title games, winning titles, and dominating above every program in the country to be considered for the UK Job. Beard has done enough that no one credible would call it a bad hire. On the contrary, it would be lauded as a great hire.

Let’s see what he does, but it’s okay to say Beard is probably good enough at this point to risk it if we had to. Personally I’m with Gonzo, I think like him that Beard is a “tremendous coach” and “we could do a lot worse” and hopefully “Kansas doesn’t hire him”.

Because I forgot he went to an EE?

 

[HagginHall1999]

Well, that is pretty much the standard minus BCG.

Pitino, Tubby, and Cal have all been better at Kentucky than anywhere else. That’s one reason why people come here.

Not talking at UK. Some coaches go from a smaller school with less pressure to a step up and struggle.

Happened to Texas' last coach.

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

Because I forgot he went to an EE?

Nah, You’ve had to be corrected on his record more than once, as you’ve usually tried to undersell it and misstate or leave off his accomplishments. You also said he’s just “had 1 good season”. It’s not true. you might want to research the guy a little more.

When you’re forming an opinion on someone in college coaching, it’s a huge deal to leave off an elite 8 at a doormat program for a young coach who’s also played for a title.

There’s no reason to do it. I believe you’ve also compared him to Gillispie and there is no comparison to Gillispie.

I don’t know why we can’t call it what it is. At this point he looks to be one of the best proven up and comers in the game, and by the looks of it could easily end up at a blue blood. The underselling makes no sense. And if we end up offering him in 4-7 years, this board will have a massive turnaround regarding his accomplishments.

 

[HagginHall1999]

Nah, You’ve had to be corrected on his record more than once, as you’ve usually tried to undersell it and misstate or leave off his accomplishments. You also said he’s just “had 1 good season”. It’s not true. you might want to research the guy a little more.

When you’re forming an opinion on someone in college coaching, it’s a huge deal to leave off an elite 8 at a doormat program for a young coach who’s also played for a title.

There’s no reason to do it. I believe you’ve also compared him to Gillispie and there is no comparison to Gillispie.

I don’t know why we can’t call it what it is. At this point he looks to be one of the best proven up and comers in the game, and by the looks of it could easily end up at a blue blood. The underselling makes no sense. And if we end up offering him in 4-7 years, this board will have a massive turnaround regarding his accomplishments.

Lol, no I haven't. You are acting completely foolish.

No worries, you'll be banned again in a few months I'm sure...all you do is try and start arguments.

 

[HagginHall1999]

Nah, You’ve had to be corrected on his record more than once, as you’ve usually tried to undersell it and misstate or leave off his accomplishments. You also said he’s just “had 1 good season”. It’s not true. you might want to research the guy a little more.

When you’re forming an opinion on someone in college coaching, it’s a huge deal to leave off an elite 8 at a doormat program for a young coach who’s also played for a title.

There’s no reason to do it. I believe you’ve also compared him to Gillispie and there is no comparison to Gillispie.

I don’t know why we can’t call it what it is. At this point he looks to be one of the best proven up and comers in the game, and by the looks of it could easily end up at a blue blood. The underselling makes no sense. And if we end up offering him in 4-7 years, this board will have a massive turnaround regarding his accomplishments.

I never compared him to BCG.

We can't call it what it is because you lie constantly to get attention.

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

I never compared him to BCG.

We can't call it what it is because you lie constantly to get attention.

If you haven’t that’s my bad, but I thought you had.

Lie for attention? Lol. That’s a new one.

Everything else stands. You are consistently wrong about his accomplishments and downplay him for no reason.

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

Lol, no I haven't. You are acting completely foolish.

No worries, you'll be banned again in a few months I'm sure...all you do is try and start arguments.

Ive never been banned.

What’s the argument? We’re on a message board discussing a coach in a thread about his team lol.

If you didn’t want to discuss any of it why did you offer up an opinion? It’s not worth getting upset when someone corrects you because you can’t keep it straight.

It’s not really a big deal. Your attacks sort of show you’ve got nothing else.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Ive never been banned.

You legit still trying to fool people? We know you got perma-banned Morg, maybe don't make your next account to ALSO be a St. Louis fan lmfao. Like, idk.. go a few cities over or something.. Pretend to be a Denver fan or some **** lol.

 

[king of cali]

You legit still trying to fool people? We know you got perma-banned Morg, maybe don't make your next account to ALSO be a St. Louis fan lmfao. Like, idk.. go a few cities over or something.. Pretend to be a Denver fan or some **** lol.

Lol…but he doesn’t lie.

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

You legit still trying to fool people? We know you got perma-banned Morg, maybe don't make your next account to ALSO be a St. Louis fan lmfao. Like, idk.. go a few cities over or something.. Pretend to be a Denver fan or some **** lol.

Hey, if you “legit” prefer.

But at least I am actually a UK fan. That’s the thing, you’re not. Finding a message board and tshirt bandwagoning UK doesn’t give you a free card to go after long time posters and real UK fans with a connection to the state or University.

You should calm down a little line. It seems you’re account was hacked or you’ve had some problems of late.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Hey, if you “legit” prefer.

But at least I am actually a UK fan. That’s the thing, you’re not. Finding a message board and tshirt bandwagoning UK doesn’t give you a free card to go after long time posters and real UK fans with a connection to the state or University.

You should calm down a little line. It seems you’re account was hacked or you’ve had some problems of late.

Ahhhh yeaaah. I was waiting for it. The "you need to calm down" line. After telling posters all thread to "stop" and "I can't help you". lolol.

Who is the one fighting people here?

 

[RunninRichie]

I want to know who BigBlueChronic was before. Joined 2 weeks ago? Nobody comes in this hot without a previous username.

lead belly

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

Ahhhh yeaaah. I was waiting for it. The "you need to calm down" line. After telling posters all thread to "stop" and "I can't help you". lolol.

Who is the one fighting people here?

We’ll just the other day you were into it with 4 to 5 posters at once. You’re just more hostile than I remember. I do hope everything is okay on your end.

Honestly, I don’t really understand your post. Yes if you can’t see Beard is a helluva coach I can’t help you. If you are comparing him to Gillespie or calling his career a “one time thing”, it’s probably time to stop. What exactly does that have to do with anything and why is this important?

When it comes to UK, I really don’t have much to say to you though. You’re a New Yorker who found this board, has no connection to Kentucky or UK, and isn’t a UK fan. So what exactly do you need Lineski? Anything else?

 

[Cowtown Cat]

No English??? I find myself agreeing with what he says a lot of times.

Jeez you’re something else. One of those Cal first fans. Y’all are insufferable.

 

[HagginHall1999]

If you haven’t that’s my bad, but I thought you had.

Lie for attention? Lol. That’s a new one.

Everything else stands. You are consistently wrong about his accomplishments and downplay him for no reason.

Ok, all good man.

I forgot he went to an EE in addition to his FF.

All I have ever said about him is I want to see him succeed at next level job. I don't like his ties to Knight or his playing style. I've posted his 67% win percentage at TTU. Not sure what I am consistently wrong about, but whatever. You do you morg.

I guess I should have just agreed that he was arguably as qualified as Cal was when we hired him at UK...which is literally laughable.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

We’ll just the other day you were into it with 4 to 5 posters at once. You’re just more hostile than I remember. I do hope everything is okay on your end.

Honestly, I don’t really understand your post. Yes if you can’t see Beard is a helluva coach I can’t help you. If you are comparing him to Gillespie or calling his career a “one time thing”, it’s probably time to stop. What exactly does that have to do with anything and why is this important?

When it comes to UK, I really don’t have much to say to you though. You’re a New Yorker who found this board, has no connection to Kentucky or UK, and isn’t a UK fan. So what exactly do you need Lineski? Anything else?

Yet, there you are hanging onto every one of my posts.

It's absolutely pathetic that you bring up posters past comments, while still never revealing yourself. What a total ***** move. Don't think I've ever seen something like that here.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Ha, I really have nothing else to tell you. Like I said, I ignore the majority of your replies at this point. The **** you pull is so sanctimonious and sniveling. You're a total woman, and I mean that in the most disrespectful way possible. Maybe you can delete yourself the way the mods deleted Morg...

 

[woodberry79]

Ha, I really have nothing else to tell you. Like I said, I ignore the majority of your replies at this point. The **** you pull is so sanctimonious and sniveling. You're a total woman, and I mean that in the most disrespectful way possible. Maybe you can delete yourself the way the mods deleted Morg...

Can't stand the dude. I used to think old Morg would suck Beard's dick to get him to UK. Now I'm convinced he'd do it for fun.

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

Ha, I really have nothing else to tell you. Like I said, I ignore the majority of your replies at this point. The **** you pull is so sanctimonious and sniveling. You're a total woman, and I mean that in the most disrespectful way possible. Maybe you can delete yourself the way the mods deleted Morg...

Lineski even though you’re not a real UK fan, I do hope you’re doing okay. Your posting has really gone in a weird direction, really hostile. Good luck to you my man.

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

Ok, all good man.

I forgot he went to an EE in addition to his FF.

All I have ever said about him is I want to see him succeed at next level job. I don't like his ties to Knight or his playing style. I've posted his 67% win percentage at TTU. Not sure what I am consistently wrong about, but whatever. You do you morg.

I guess I should have just agreed that he was arguably as qualified as Cal was when we hired him at UK...which is literally laughable.

I have no issues if you think Cal was more qualified. I think there’s definitely angles to play there. Aside from Cal, he’d fall about middle of the pack in UK’s history as far as “qualifications” go for new hires. In my mind that seems to mean he’d be a qualified candidate.

67%, title game, elite eight, NCAA appearances, among his coaching awards, is extremely good and why he’s now the head coach at Texas. I think like Gonzo UK could do much worse and he’s an outstanding coach. I also hope Kansas never lands him.

If that’s out of bounds, I guess for some reason he’s just hated. I’m not into the flopping really, but he’s never had lots of athletic talent due to his youth in the game and terrible programs. I think if he were at UK he wouldn’t do it as much, but it’s definitely something I don’t like.

All in all, if he wins, I’m good with him at UK if it were ever possible.

 

[BigBlueChronic]

I have no issues if you think Cal was more qualified. I think there’s definitely angles to play there. Aside from Cal, he’d fall about middle of the pack in UK’s history as far as “qualifications” go for new hires. In my mind that seems to mean he’d be a qualified candidate.

67%, title game, elite eight, NCAA appearances, among his coaching awards, is extremely good and why he’s now the head coach at Texas. I think like Gonzo UK could do much worse and he’s an outstanding coach. I also hope Kansas never lands him.

If that’s out of bounds, I guess for some reason he’s just hated. I’m not into the flopping really, but he’s never had lots of athletic talent due to his youth in the game and terrible programs. I think if he were at UK he wouldn’t do it as much, but it’s definitely something I don’t like.

All in all, if he wins, I’m good with him at UK if it were ever possible.

Whats his big 12 conference record? How many double loss seasons has he had in his 5 years there? How many Big 12 conference tournaments has he won so far? What's his record against top 25 teams? What's his record against KU?

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

Whats his big 12 conference record? How many double loss seasons has he had in his 5 years there? How many Big 12 conference tournaments has he won so far? What's his record against top 25 teams? What's his record against KU?

Hey, winning at Tech isn’t easy. I don’t really expect him to lock the conference down. But he did very well.

 

[BigBlueChronic]

Hey, winning at Tech isn’t easy. I don’t really expect him to lock the conference down. But he did very well.

Lol, you wouldn't even answer one? He is 22 - 29 against top 25 teams the last 5 years. That's including his 2 tournament runs. He almost has a losing conference record and has only 1 conference tournament championship in his entire coaching career, and that wasn't even at a power 5 school. 4 out out of seasons @ TTU his teams had 10 or more losses. The least amount of losses was 7. He is a pretty bad recruiter, has a boring style of play and chokes consistently in big games.

TTU is in the big 12, has nice facilities, one of the largest endowments in the country, a talent rich state. If you can't at least be good there consistently, you aren't much of a coach.

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

Lol, you wouldn't even answer one? He is 22 - 29 against top 25 teams the last 5 years. That's including his 2 tournament runs. He almost has a losing conference record and has only 1 conference tournament championship in his entire coaching career, and that wasn't even at a power 5 school. 4 out out of seasons @ TTU his teams had 10 or more losses. The least amount of losses was 7. He is a pretty bad recruiter, has a boring style of play and chokes consistently in big games.

TTU is in the big 12, has nice facilities, one of the largest endowments in the country, a talent rich state. If you can't at least be good there consistently, you aren't much of a coach.

Well I didn’t realize TT was big time college basketball program. Here I thought they were a doormat program.

What is Cals record at UK against top 25 teams the last 5 years? I’m genuinely curious and don’t want to look. Last I did I don’t think it was much better.

Most seem to think Beard is an outstanding coach. I guess he can’t win everyone over.

 

[BigBlueChronic]

Well I didn’t realize TT was big time college basketball program. Here I thought they were a doormat program.

What is Cals record at UK against top 25 teams the last 5 years? I’m genuinely curious and don’t want to look. Last I did I don’t think it was much better.

Most seem to think Beard is an outstanding coach. I guess he can’t win everyone over.

TTech actually has a better history than most programs. Some like to downplay it to make Beard look better. That should tell you all you need to know about him. They were literally in the NCAA tournament in 2016 under Tubby, just before they hired Beard later that year. He then proceeded to miss the post season in 2017, his first year as coach.

21/22. So while bad, not quite as bad as Beard. We also beat TTU on their court during that time as well.

Not sure who these "most" are. Just seems to be you...are these "most" talking to you now?

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

TTech actually has a better history than most programs. Some like to downplay it to make Beard look better. That should tell you all you need to know about him. They were literally in the NCAA tournament in 2016 under Tubby, just before they hired Beard later that year. He then proceeded to miss the post season in 2017, his first year as coach.

21/22. So while bad, not quite as bad as Beard. We also beat TTU on their court during that time as well.

Not sure who these "most" are. Just seems to be you...are these "most" talking to you now?

Sigh.. One response on this. I’m tired of talking about Beard.

A simple google search shows that Beard is extremely highly thought of. You are in a vast minority with your opinion. Vast.

Beard is responsible for the only title game appearance and final four in TT history (by contrast Kansas St. has 4 final four appearances in the conference).

He’s responsible for their ONLY elite eight appearances. He’s responsible for the first sweet 16 at Texas Tech in 14 years.

TT has only been to back to back sweet 16’s twice, once in the early 60’s, and then again with Beard.

TT has only been to back to back tournaments 4 times in their history dating back to the 40’s, and one of those was Beard who would have made that a school record of 3 consecutive had the ncaa taken place during COVID. Indont understand bashing the guy for breaking records at a program because he didn’t win enough regular season games.

Saying they have a better program than “most” is interesting. It’s slightly better than Vandy, and that’s mainly because of Beards run. Without Beard, Vandy has been further in the tournament than Texas Tech. Hell, I think EVERY SEC school has been as far or farther than TT without Beards run.

The only way you can even come close to making a case that Tech is “better than most” is BECAUSE of Chris Beard.

According to Jeff Sagarin all time ratings, Texas Tech would only be better than 9 Power Conference teams in the entire country before Beards run. If you’re keeping score, that is definition doormat. And no it’s not easy to win at a doormat, that’s why they’re doormats.

They ranked (slightly) better than Ole Miss and Miami. If by “better than most” you mean Sacred Heart and Central Connecticut State, then sure.

Let’s see what happens at Texas. So far he’s recruiting as good as anyone, and he’s already a proven winner. The only question is does he continue.

 

[ArtLaibsGhost_rivals]

Regardless of what type of coach Beard may or may not be, he has a killer lineup next year. Texas should be a preseason #1, nobody has as much talent, whether he can get it to play like a championship team is the real question, time will tell.

 

[BigBlueChronic]

Sigh.. One response on this. I’m tired of talking about Beard.

A simple google search shows that Beard is extremely highly thought of. You are in a vast minority with your opinion. Vast.

Beard is responsible for the only title game appearance and final four in TT history (by contrast Kansas St. has 4 final four appearances in the conference).

He’s responsible for their ONLY elite eight appearances. He’s responsible for the first sweet 16 at Texas Tech in 14 years.

TT has only been to back to back sweet 16’s twice, once in the early 60’s, and then again with Beard.

TT has only been to back to back tournaments 4 times in their history dating back to the 40’s, and one of those was Beard who would have made that a school record of 3 consecutive had the ncaa taken place during COVID. Indont understand bashing the guy for breaking records at a program because he didn’t win enough regular season games.

Saying they have a better program than “most” is interesting. It’s slightly better than Vandy, and that’s mainly because of Beards run. Without Beard, Vandy has been further in the tournament than Texas Tech. Hell, I think EVERY SEC school has been as far or farther than TT without Beards run.

The only way you can even come close to making a case that Tech is “better than most” is BECAUSE of Chris Beard.

According to Jeff Sagarin all time ratings, Texas Tech would only be better than 9 Power Conference teams in the entire country before Beards run. If you’re keeping score, that is definition doormat. And no it’s not easy to win at a doormat, that’s why they’re doormats.

They ranked (slightly) better than Ole Miss and Miami. If by “better than most” you mean Sacred Heart and Central Connecticut State, then sure.

Let’s see what happens at Texas. So far he’s recruiting as good as anyone, and he’s already a proven winner. The only question is does he continue.

TTU has 19 tournament appearances. Literally were in the tournament the season Tubby left. Beard followed him up by missing it. They have been in the sw 16 7 times. They are a 12 time conference Champ and 5 time conference tournament Champs. They have had Bob Knight, Pat Knight and Tubby Smith all coach there in the last 15 years. They aren't this doormat program you're envisioning.

Can you please quote evidence to support your claims?

 

[STL_Cat]

They have had Bob Knight, Pat Knight and Tubby Smith all coach there in the last 15 years. They aren't this doormat program you're envisioning.

And not a single one of them made it as far in the tournament as Beard did.

Twice.

 

[BigBlueChronic]

And not a single one of them made it as far in the tournament as Beard did.

Twice.

Sure they did. They all came up short as well!

Are you saying you would be cool with double digit loss seasons 4 out of 5 years, no conference tournament championships, poor recruiting, 22-29 record against top 25 teams for an E8 and Runner-up finish?

 

[STL_Cat]

Sure they did. They all came up short as well!

Are you saying you would be cool with double digit loss seasons 4 out of 5 years, no conference tournament championships, poor recruiting, 22-29 record against top 25 teams for an E8 and Runner-up finish?

I never said any of those things. I’m disputing your flawed arguments. You named a bunch of guys who are “name coaches” to prove somehow that TTU isn’t a gutter job, but failed to mention that Beard has taken TTU deeper in the tournament than any of those guys … twice.

you can have your other argument. Not engaging in that. We’ll see how he does at Texas. I think the roster he’s put together this season is going to be pretty damn good.

 

[Rockfly78]

Something to keep in mind…….based on all the reports Cal was Texas first choice, not Beard.

 

[STL_Cat]

Something to keep in mind…….based on all the reports Cal was Texas first choice, not Beard.

Do we really think Cal was Texas’s first choice? Really? Not that Texas wouldn’t want cal. But targeting a coach of a blue blood program as your “first choice” seems like an effort in futility.

 

[Rockfly78]

Do we really think Cal was Texas’s first choice? Really? Not that Texas wouldn’t want cal. But targeting a coach of a blue blood program as your “first choice” seems like an effort in futility.

I don’t know. I’m not telling you my opinion. I’m telling you what was being reported at the time

 

[STL_Cat]

I don’t know. I’m not telling you my opinion. I’m telling you what was being reported at the time

Was it reported that Cal was Texas's first choice?

 

[STL_Cat]

I don’t know. I’m not telling you my opinion. I’m telling you what was being reported at the time

I don't think what you're saying is accurate, fwiw.

Cal: Rumor or Fact?

Beard at the top of Texas list

 

[Rockfly78]

I don't think what you're saying is accurate, fwiw.

Cal: Rumor or Fact?

Beard at the top of Texas list

Maybe someone will have to revive the old Cal to Texas thread. It had a lot of folks excited. They are already saying their goodbyes. I’m sure there are some links in there

 

[STL_Cat]

Maybe someone will have to revive the old Cal to Texas thread. It had a lot of folks excited. They are already saying their goodbyes. I’m sure there are some links in there

I mean yeah ... there was a thread. There were also a lot of threads that said Kofi was a lock here.

I don't believe Cal was ever a legitimate "first choice" for Texas. The thread was nonsense.

 

[Rockfly78]

I don't think what you're saying is accurate, fwiw.

Cal: Rumor or Fact?

Beard at the top of Texas list

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.st...columns-blogs/mac-engel/article250234435.html