Jimmy Butler trash talking KAT.
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Butlers a baby back *****. Bam will smack him around like the tool bag he is.
I understand what you’re saying.
I can also say the sentiment around the league (KAT has gone from the guy that most GMs say they’d start a franchise with to not in the top 10 in the last 5 years) echos a lot of what Butler says. NBA people have said KAT is one of the worst defenders in the league at his position.
now are all these people just listening to Jimmy Butler? Where is it coming from?
Yeah the only year he’s had help, Wiggins sucked and wasn’t a winner. Maybe they can build around the Halftime Jersey popper.
Even Kevin Garnett couldn’t lead the TWolves to anything and nobody ever thought he was soft.
Thank you. If that’s soft? Butlers numbers are if anything, barely better. What’s that make Butler? Plus, KAT isn’t team hopping every other year. F Butler.
Who gives a F, the Minny GM thinks he’s good enough for a got damn max contract. Dudes putting up solid numbers. Butlers a *****. I don’t know how anybody can defend this tool bag.
In a covid year where the entire event was played in the same location in FL, after a 5 month layoff. And they got torched by the Lakers.
I’m not going to do any mental gymnastics here, you asked what he’s won and I told you.
Jimmy was a beast in the bubble, and he played extremely hard.
Eastern Conference Finals is something.
Again, I like KAT. To me this conversation isn’t all about jimmy vs KAT. My point was Jimmy Butler isn’t the only dude in the league saying this stuff about KAT. He’s just the only one that’s a big enough ******* to go straight after KAT with it.
Whether true or not, there’s a perception that KAT is too soft, doesn’t play defense, is too concerned with his own stats, and lacks the toughness and killer instinct to lead a winner.
Again, not saying I agree with that, just letting you know what’s being said.
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Right. Just a couple years ago there were NBA people saying KAT is one of the worst defenders in the league at his position. That’s not going to get you a lot of love around the league. (Unless you’re James Harden apparently)
It's really not though. Particularly considering the situation of last year.
KAT is soft, and needs to play harder. I have no issues with trash talk. I am just curious what all the Butler nuthuggers think he has accomplished. Butler is overrated and a team cancer. Being a soft player but a good person is far better than an aggressive player with a bad personality that no one wants to play with or be around.
Nobody’s expecting him to lead them “to titles.” But at least maybe be average once in a while? The only time KAT’s teams have ever done that was when Butler was his teammate.
Racking up stats for perennial last place teams fails to impress after awhile.
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Why are so many getting Soft and a good player mixed up? KAT is obviously a really good player, that doesn’t exclude him from being basically a big coddled man.
From the outside looking in, as I don't watch the NBA, sounds like KAT needs to grow up a bit and stand up to Butler. Butler wants KAT to be tough? Well, then KAT needs to lay him out like Kareem Abul-Jabbar did to Kent Benson. Take the suspension, pay the fines, then drop 50 on Butler every time they play. I'm not sure KAT had that in him, though.
I sincerely hope the next time Butler and KAT face off that KAT has a 60 point quadruple double in a 50 point blowout win, whips Butlers *** after the game and then bangs his old lady.
@STL_Cat so you are going to conveniently forget that Jimmy Butler missed TWENTY games down the stretch (wow so tough) for the 2017-18 Timberwolves? KAT basically single handily carried that team to the playoffs in an incredibly competitive Western conference. While Butler was busy icing his hamstrings for 5 weeks, which is typical of him
Really tired of Jimmy Butler’s act. The guy is overrated. Acts like this tough guy, competitor, winner. He got to the finals during a ******** bubble playoff season, then got crushed 4-1 by Lakers. No GM on Earth would take him over KAT.
10 boards for someone his size isn't great. It's decent, but it kinda tells the story of a guy who doesn't go all out
KAT wasn't real good in that game. Kaminsky had a good game aswell.
Although, KAT was really good in the Notre Dame game
Not sure I understand all the comments about last year being a “******** bubble year.” Sure it was much different all in the same building and no crowds, but those playoffs were fun to watch. Those guys were competing their asses off. I didn’t see any players out there going through the motions like it was ********.
It's interesting that when KAT's teammates are guys like Wiggins or D'Lo, he's supposed to win with them, and when Steph's teammates are the same guys, he's a superhero who has no help.
Is KAT soft? Seems to be, especially by NBA standards. But the Wolves are always terrible. Garnett was a sociopath and couldn't win there either, with better help.
Butler's "thing" is his edge and tough guy persona. A lot of that is real. But he went a lot of places, and was on some REALLY good teams (like Philly) and didn't win there either.
A guy like him should think the conference finals isn't success, so you can't credit him for getting there. He'd crucify a guy like KAT for listing that as an accomplishment.
Don't think Jimmy is necessarily a bad guy. Just wired different.
Is KAT soft? Seems to be, especially by NBA standards. But the Wolves are always terrible. Garnett was a sociopath and couldn't win there either, with better help.
Butler's "thing" is his edge and tough guy persona. A lot of that is real. But he went a lot of places, and was on some REALLY good teams (like Philly) and didn't win there either.
A guy like him should think the conference finals isn't success, so you can't credit him for getting there. He'd crucify a guy like KAT for listing that as an accomplishment.
Don't think Jimmy is necessarily a bad guy. Just wired different.
Odd, I don't recall any of them on the Raptors team 2 years ago...
I hear ya, but if anything Butler is underrated. I used to believe the exact same thing you stated. Butler is simply a stat line filling bull.
Here is my fear for our young NBA UK boys in Bam and Herro. I truly believe they both have to walk on eggshells and play within the way Butler wants.
Sure, to the media, Butler acknowledged strong support of both. But I can tell you this, Herro has had to adjust his game and pull back a bit. I only guessing, but if Herro and Bam get too much limelight, Butler in the locker room is an intimidating force to kids 21 and 23 years old. Same with KAT.
IIRC they were a 4 or 5 seed when Butler got hurt and had to win the last game of the season against Denver to get in as the 8 seed, so they were hurt when Jimmy was out and nearly missed the playoffs
Not hard to find articles on the net that state Jimmy wasn't just a problem in Minnesota.
I don't know, man. I guess it can always go sideways but Jimmy Butler seems to really love Bam and Herro and they seem to love him. At least they did last year.
As long as they listen and do as Jimmy says, they stay in his good graces. There’s not gonna be any push back like Rondo and KAT. Bam and Herro just don’t have it in their DNA to be outspoken against a figure like Butler. Rondo just don’t give a
if Butler gets upset.Butler is the cool guy in the room if you just don’t go against him. It is also interesting that last season was Butler’s first conference title and Finals appearance. And it was with Herro and Bam balling out in their respective rookie and sophomore season.
Did KAT push back on Butler? I didn't get the idea that that's what happened. I think Butler was trying to get MORE pushback from KAT. I felt like the whole thing with Butler and KAT was Butler trying to pull something out of KAT that just isn't there.As long as they listen and do as Jimmy says, they stay in his good graces. There’s not gonna be any push back like Rondo and KAT. Bam and Herro just don’t have it in their DNA to be outspoken against a figure like Butler. Rondo just don’t give a
Butler is the cool guy in the room if you just don’t go against him. It is also interesting that last season was Butler’s first conference title and Finals appearance. And it was with Herro and Bam balling out in their respective rookie and sophomore season.
Yes but if you also recall the 3-10 seeds were separated by just a few games almost all season
When Butler went down they were 32-26. They finished 47-35. Analyze those numbers.
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I believe you’re right. And perhaps if Bam and Herro don’t please Butler, then the Wolves and Bulls version of Butler will be back in affect.
Butler = Frank Sinatra. He’s gonna do it his way and try to come off as the good guy wanting to succeed at all costs regardless of having to throw a few under-the-bus. Make no mistake, Butler is a baller, very little flash, but a lot of stats.
That’s fair. It’s not often that winning 47 games only gets you an 8 seed. The West was really tough that year
Yeah that year was wild. When Butler went down they were 32-26 and finished 47-35. KAT willed that team to wins against way more talented teams. While Jimmy Butler cried from the bench
I think some of my posts have come across as anti-KAT and that is NOT me. I'm a huge fan of KAT. But my point, again is that his stock has seemingly gone way down amongst NBA GMs as well for one reason or another. I don't think you can blame Jimmy Butler for that.