Illinois fighting to keep Coach Antigua

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It would be nice if O already told Cal he's coming and this is just finalizing terms. I can't see Cal sending Barbee and Justus off if it wasn't and it's no coincidence they both moe on after this horrible season and all the heat. TC a horrible tragedy, but horrible timing as I am sure the last thing Cal wants to discuss is money. Either O wants to be here or he doesn't.

Man we went from a high yesterday with the possibilities to a low last night and just a numb feeling. I'm not sure how Cal gets back into recruiting and finishing the staff negotiations with what has to be a really sad heart. I mean I know he will get back to it, but I'm sure this dampens the flames a little bit. The guy is human and it would for anyone.
 

VikingCat21

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I think Illinois has more money but I could be wrong.

Per the 2018-19 athletic department revenues, UK ranked 15th in the nation with $150.4 million in revenue vs $145 million in expenses for a roughly $5.4 million profit.

Illinois ranked 29th with $118.6 million in revenue vs $120.2 million in expenses for a roughly $1.6 million dollar loss.
 

MakinMusic_rivals

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Per the 2018-19 athletic department revenues, UK ranked 15th in the nation with $150.4 million in revenue vs $145 million in expenses for a roughly $5.4 million profit.

Illinois ranked 29th with $118.6 million in revenue vs $120.2 million in expenses for a roughly $1.6 million dollar loss.

Ranked #1 most valuable program in 2019-20 according to Forbes 3 year average revenue. Consistently #1 or 2 over 5 years. Illinois is #10 and not even half of net revenue. I would say Kentucky has the money to handle it.

 

cat_in_the_hat

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Per the 2018-19 athletic department revenues, UK ranked 15th in the nation with $150.4 million in revenue vs $145 million in expenses for a roughly $5.4 million profit.

Illinois ranked 29th with $118.6 million in revenue vs $120.2 million in expenses for a roughly $1.6 million dollar loss.
I don't really know who has more money, but I just want to point out that very little of Cal's salary is paid by UKAA. Most of it is paid by third parties. I don't know how the salaries of the assistant coaches work, but I wouldn't necessarily assume that UKAA would be paying all of the salary. When you bring in outside parties that pay a portion of the salary, who knows which school could afford to pay more.
 
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Per the 2018-19 athletic department revenues, UK ranked 15th in the nation with $150.4 million in revenue vs $145 million in expenses for a roughly $5.4 million profit.

Illinois ranked 29th with $118.6 million in revenue vs $120.2 million in expenses for a roughly $1.6 million dollar loss.
Oh ok cool. I was thinking in terms of endowments but I guess that money can’t be used for paying coaches.
 

RoyKent

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Illini "insider" on the radio here in STL just said Illinois' offer is 4 years and between $1.1 and $1.3 million annually. He believes it's enough of an offer that Antigua will accept it and stay at Illinois.
 

JAC71

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Illini "insider" on the radio here in STL just said Illinois' offer is 4 years and between $1.1 and $1.3 million annually. He believes it's enough of an offer that Antigua will accept it and stay at Illinois.
I hope he’s wrong. If he does stay at Illinois then it’s not a good look to make room on your staff and end up empty handed in my opinion. Antigua is perfect hire for Cal right now since they are familiar with one another and he knows what it takes to do the job at UK
 
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Blueworld_3.0

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Illini "insider" on the radio here in STL just said Illinois' offer is 4 years and between $1.1 and $1.3 million annually. He believes it's enough of an offer that Antigua will accept it and stay at Illinois.
That's a very surprising offer. A lot more than I expected Illinois to be able or willing to shell out. We'll see if UK/Barnhart are willing to step up.
 

RoyKent

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I hope he’s wrong. If he does stay at Illinois then it’s not a good look to make room on your staff and end up empty handed in my opinion. Antigua is perfect hire for Cal right now since they are familiar with one another and he knows what it takes to do the job at UK

Totally agree. If O doesn't end up at UK it will be ugly (less ugly because of yesterday) for Cal.

This guy was pretty insistent that he is being told Illinois' offer is significant enough that O will be staying.
 

RoyKent

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That's a very surprising offer. A lot more than I expected Illinois to be able or willing to shell out. We'll see if UK/Barnhart are willing to step up.

Yep. I can't find assistant salary info but Payne was the highest at $900k last year. So O would be the highest by $300-500k....that's crazy! It would be higher than all but 65 HEAD COACHES salaries.
 

wccat

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KP was making $900K and Vince Marrow is making the same. Let's see how high they will go for OA. I can't see UK getting outbid by Illinois. I wonder what the price tag is for Chin if he is indeed coming to UK.
 

BBallin23

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If he does stay, Cal can find another just as good. I’d prefer Antigua, but coaches would be lining up to be an assistant at Kentucky.
 
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Blueworld_3.0

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KP was making $900K and Vince Marrow is making the same. Let's see how high they will go for OA. I can't see UK getting outbid by Illinois. I wonder what the price tag is for Chin if he is indeed coming to UK.
It might be that the UK administration tells Cal that they'll pay whatever is necessary for Antigua but, Coleman might be a no-go if his price is too high.
Not saying UK couldn't afford to pay whatever it would take to get both but, I'm sure there is a limit. Can't just hand out blank checks.
 

JAC71

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If he does stay, Cal can find another just as good. I’d prefer Antigua, but coaches would be lining up to be an assistant at Kentucky.
If he isn’t hired then he should have just kept Justice instead of shipping him off to another school. And to be honest looks really bad that you get rid of two assistants and can’t pull the one assistant you are after.
 

bthaunert

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Yep. I can't find assistant salary info but Payne was the highest at $900k last year. So O would be the highest by $300-500k....that's crazy! It would be higher than all but 65 HEAD COACHES salaries.
Here are current coaching salaries at UK:

Barbee - $550,000
Justus - $300,000
Bruiser - $500,000
Lucas - $275,000

Here are current Illinois salaries:

Coach O - $475,000
Coleman - $315,000
Gentry - $315,000
 
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senonesy

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I doubt Cal would let 2 of his coaches go, if he didn't have an assurance that Coach O was coming. I believe that the Illini is appeasing its fanbase by "counter offering". I believe in the end Coach O will be in Lexington next season.
Cal didn’t let any coaches go. One left to be a head coach and the other promoted to higher level assistant coach.
 

kybassfan

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He would become public enemy #1 if this is true.

I’m not worried one bit though. We all expect him to come but if he doesn’t, Calipari will fill the spots with top quality coaches and recruiters.
Why? What wrong with negotiation? I think I expect him to make his best deal.
 
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