Calipari NBA angle has backfired

kybassfan

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You every time you refuse to engage in discussion (you're the little guy on the left):

Laughs. Wrong again. Just more stabbing in the dark out of ignorance
 

kybassfan

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You can't quit, because you don't have enough sense to be a winner. You brought your family into the conservation earlier. Don't bring something up if you don't want it repeated. All you want to do is argue. I'm for UK not Cal. Your for someone beside UK, and you want any coach to stay that isn't winning.
Go ahead and send another one of your idiot post. I'm tired of arguing with a FOOL. Like some posters said, "Don't argue with a fool, because they will beat you down to their level." Tell all of us how great this season was. That shows your stupidity. Adios, Dumb-***.

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Right. You brought in the family, or couldn’t you read your own post? Who said this season great? Oh, wait, who quit when the season got tough? We know the answer to that.
 

willievic

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Stick to fishing...you know exactly jacksh!t about basketball
Nick, the guy is an IDIOT. I doubt he knows anything about fishing. If his fishing knowledge is like his basketball knowledge, or judging how a coach is doing, that tells you how stupid he is. I don't believe he is a UK fan, or he would want the best for UK, not hanging onto the testicales of the coach.

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willievic

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what is lost on bassfan and the others of his ilk is they've been coming on a UK message board saying the same thing for years - so its particularly notable to see them 1. talk about people saying the same thing and 2. accomplish absolutely nothing in multiple years of trying.

I'm at point where I could write a bot to just regurgitate the replies of some of these people and no one could tell the difference. Now their response to that is they could do the same for me or others. The difference is I don't come on here with the purpose of insulting and trying to shut down people who have different opinions than me.

I come here to talk Kentucky basketball. They come here to shut up people who they don't agree with. That's what motivates them. Its very odd they pass judgement on so many Kentucky fans when that is their net contribution to this board.
Excellent post! Wouldn't it be fun to post, and discuss differences in our beliefs as far as coaching, without having to argue with a poster, that gets his panties in a wad, every time you don't agree with him on Cal being a great coach. We have one poster, regardless of what I say, that wants to argue, even though what he says, makes no sense. He calls everyone idiots if they don't agree with him. I just wonder if he would have the balls to call us idiots to our face.

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Son_Of_Saul

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I actually like Kybassfan. I just wish he'd be more willing to engage in real conversation instead of simply referring to some of us as "CLOD" every time we refuse to drink Johnny Clam Chowder's Kool-Aid. I know that tucked away in his mind is a real dialogue waiting to emerge.

Gather the courage, Kybassfan; I know you have it in you!
 

kybassfan

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I actually like Kybassfan. I just wish he'd be more willing to engage in real conversation instead of simply referring to some of us as "CLOD" every time we refuse to drink Johnny Clam Chowder's Kool-Aid. I know that tucked away in his mind is a real dialogue waiting to emerge.

Gather the courage, Kybassfan; I know you have it in you!

Courage? You mean like facing the quitter mob? Got news for you, it ain’t cool to hate on the cats.
 
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kybassfan

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You'd think with all the money they're raking in from the state and its people, they'd tell their entitled daughters to get off social media and pipe down a bit.
And you really think that would make a big difference? Really? Sounds like more cancel culture to me. You’ve been trying to make people shut up all morning.
 
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Elliott Tim

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Cal was an innovator
Cal is not a adapter

Cal was the first to really embrace one and dones in college. Since others have caught up, he hasn’t been able to adapt. There’s no longer anything unique about Cal for recruits to come. His assistants are poor at establishing relationships with recruits, he won’t hire someone’s dad/brother, he won’t hand them large bags of cash, he doesn’t play a style that gets them ready for the nba, etc

Cal threw out “positionless basketball” to recruits but that really never came to fruition. AD, KAT, etc never developed much of an outside game here. Other places are allowing big men to step out or bring the ball up the court. As you said, other coaches recruited against Cal, I’m not sure that’s really necessary at this point
Very sane post. Innavator's are pioneer's and trailblazers. The wheel was a wonderful invention, but the vehicles that turn the wheel are the reason it's alive and well.
 

Elliott Tim

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Hear me out -

This kind of stuff has been talked about here pretty much as nauseam, but not sure this angle has been considered as much.

To me, where Calipari killed the competition from a recruiting standpoint 5-10 years ago was he was selling a unique product. Cal crushed the recruiting trail because he sold playing for him, he sold playing his style, he sold his brand of basketball. We can argue about whether or not the “dribble drive” was just a marketing gimmick, but nonetheless it was a gimmick unique to Cal and his style and he sold it that way. And the recruits bought it. Dudes wanted to play for Cal.

Then he went all in on this “I’m helping solve generational poverty and I’m the program to get you to the NBA” angle. It suddenly became all about the NBA. Which I do understand the strategy, these high profile guys are looking at the NBA, I’ll sell them the NBA. Easy Peasy. The players first, I’m going to help you achieve your dreams pitch. UK players pictures in their NBA jerseys all over the facility.

This strategy has a fatal flaw, though. It made Calipari much easier to recruit against. Once you see a few guys out there killing it regardless of where they went to college, how much easier is it for rival recruiters to say “why do you need Calipari to get you to the NBA? You don’t. You can go anywhere and get the exposure you need these days, if you’re good enough.”

As opposed to, “I want to play for Coach Cal because he’s a great coach and he plays a great style that will highlight my abilities and set me up for success.” It’s much more difficult to sell against a product that has unique features and benefits. When all of a sudden the sales pitch is into “I’ll get you to the NBA,” it’s easier for rivals to mitigate that pitch.

just an early Sunday morning thought. I’ll take my slings and arrows now
This may have remained the status
quo had he stayed at Memphis.
The day he came to Ky was the day that
coaches had to change with the times or witness a dynasty with the potential
to erase and replace UCLA as title king.
JMO
 

KyFaninNC

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Excellent post! Wouldn't it be fun to post, and discuss differences in our beliefs as far as coaching, without having to argue with a poster, that gets his panties in a wad, every time you don't agree with him on Cal being a great coach. We have one poster, regardless of what I say, that wants to argue, even though what he says, makes no sense. He calls everyone idiots if they don't agree with him. I just wonder if he would have the balls to call us idiots to our face.

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Hell no. I can answer that. He might one time, but would regret it later.
 

UKWildcatT

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The reason we had the season we had was because if Covid, not the NBA angle. Same with Duke. Do you think Coach K is hearing the same criticism as Cal. No, he is not. Duke fans have more sense than UK fans. We have a lot of idiot fans. That’s a fact.
Oh good lord. This excuse, along with the excuse of “other teams are cheating” makes Kentucky fans sound like an Indiana fan. Just stop.
 

tls

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Going after these transfers....... its a good start. in changing that is........ but lets see if he changes his offense and style. If all he thinks he needs to change is player personel then he's refusing to change much at all.
My fear is the micro-managing which gets exacerbated down the stretch in games. Most years the Cats hold onto games while making us all sweat. This past year, Cal didn’t have the horses which resulted in his losing all those games in the last 4 minutes.

I have zero hope that will ever change and imo it’s a fatal flaw.
 
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willievic

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What a broken record. Let me say this very slow..... I do not care what you think. Do I need to repeat that even slower? You keep repeating the same vomitus like you think I care. I never made a post about BCG. Laugh. Dude, hallucinate much?

Just some friendly advice. I’d leave my wife out of this. She takes up for herself quite well. In addition, its something a real slime ball would do, I guess I should expect that sort of low life insult from quitters.
KyBass, there is one thing we can't call you, and that is a quitter. You would have to start, before you could quit. You brought your wife in the post several post back. Look it up. I'm sure she can take care of herself, because she has probably been taking care of your arguments for a long time. She should get a real man, who knows a winner when she sees one, which evidently you don't. You continue to ride a dead horse.

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natchezrule

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Again. Completely false. In fact I never made a post about BCG. I’m not stupid enough to bash my program in public. This just demonstrates how a quitter will post complete falsehoods. I suppose to distract from the fact that they quit.
Knelt not quit
 
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kybassfan

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KyBass, there is one thing we can't call you, and that is a quitter. You would have to start, before you could quit. You brought your wife in the post several post back. Look it up. I'm sure she can take care of herself, because she has probably been taking care of your arguments for a long time. She should get a real man, who knows a winner when she sees one, which evidently you don't. You continue to ride a dead horse.

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No, you did. You still are trying to drag her into this. That's just sick and pathetic and completely in character for you. We know what you are now.
 

willievic

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You are one sick perverse puppy. Leave my wife out of it.
I didn't mention your wife in the last thread. You brought your family in it about 5 or 6 threads back. Don't respond, and I WILL NOT. If you keep the **** up, then I will respond. Do you just want to keep arguing? Evidently you do. Get a life, Hoss! As long as you keep posting to me, you will get an answer. If you don't respond, then I will never post on any of your comments. I don't give a **** what you think, since it's usually wrong, and full of BS. I guarantee you will send me another reply. How stupid can you be.

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kybassfan

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I didn't mention your wife in the last thread. You brought your family in it about 5 or 6 threads back. Don't respond, and I WILL NOT. If you keep the **** up, then I will respond. Do you just want to keep arguing? Evidently you do. Get a life, Hoss! As long as you keep posting to me, you will get an answer. If you don't respond, then I will never post on any of your comments. I don't give a **** what you think, since it's usually wrong, and full of BS. I guarantee you will send me another reply. How stupid can you be.

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Yeah, and you will keep making threats and dragging family members into it I’ll respond when I damn well please. Do not threaten me.
 

willievic

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Yeah, and you will keep making threats and dragging family members into it I’ll respond when I damn well please. Do not threaten me.
You are an IDIOT! No one is threating you, but just go ahead and keep responding. Arguing with you is like "Dueling with an unarmed man." I really feel bad responding to a FOOL, but if you insist, I will keep on. You don't have enough sense to shut up. No one is threating you. I just asked you to quit responding to any post of mine, and I will never respond to any of your post. All you want to do is argue, and show your stupidity. I actually feel sorry for you. If your brains, what small amount you have, "Were in a Jay Bird's A$$, it would fly backward."

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kybassfan

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You are an IDIOT! No one is threating you, but just go ahead and keep responding. Arguing with you is like "Dueling with an unarmed man." I really feel bad responding to a FOOL, but if you insist, I will keep on. You don't have enough sense to shut up. No one is threating you. I just asked you to quit responding to any post of mine, and I will never respond to any of your post. All you want to do is argue, and show your stupidity. I actually feel sorry for you. If your brains, what small amount you have, "Were in a Jay Bird's A$$, it would fly backward."

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There you go. More insults, threats and name calling. We all know you are just a quitter that tries to deflect on to others. Sick twisted little man that drags family members into his private pissing contests You are outed.
 

KyFaninNC

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There you go. More insults, threats and name calling. We all know you are just a quitter that tries to deflect on to others. Sick twisted little man that drags family members into his private pissing contests You are outed.
Do you ever tell the truth? You may in real life, but you sure as hell don’t here. Nobody is threatening you. You need more crayons and coloring books?
 

CB3UK

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Oh great. As soon as UKs worst season in 100 years concluded AssMan suddenly comes back out of the woodwork after being MIA while the season was at its absolute nadir. Because, of course.
 
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ShadowFromHomewardBound

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Laugh. Now he plays the puppet card Trying to look cool among his quitter friends. He’ll keep going trying to get in the last word. After it is all said and done, still nothing but a fair weather fan frantically rationalizing why he quit. Comparing himself to Puke fans. They quit so he can quit. Rather pathetic.

Real talk man- it’s glaringly apparent you are triggered.