Calipari NBA angle has backfired

[kybassfan]

***, have you ever thought that some of the other teams lacked the same that you do, common sense. A lot of coaches deal the hand their given, and others lie, like Cal, and you, if you had any sense, make excuses. The season is over, COVID didn't affect us any more then most teams. We started two senior transfers, a Soph, and two Freshmen. What affected us more then anything, was Cal's ability to do something other then the Dribble Drive. You and I have never agreed, because you hold on to Cal's balls so tight that your vision is blurred. Lower your head. I don't respond to any of your post, unless their directed to mine. I don't like responding to an idiot, who doesn't know basketball, and now doesn't appear to know much of anything. Do you ever wonder why you don't get very many LIKES to your post? It's because your STUPID! Unless you respond directly to mine, I will NEVER acknowledge your post. That way it's better for both of us. The only thing you probably have in relation to a bass, is a big mouth.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

Ok, this one has not a clue. Still hung up on anatomical references. No substance. No relevance. Thinks a wall of jibberish has meaning. Clearly you are unable to evaluate any functional aspect of the pandemic. I think we already had seen you demonstrate this weakness

By the way, I think you may have mistaken me for someone that gives a damn what you think or whether you acknowledge anything I write.

Letme know when you have something relevant to contribute. I won’t hold my breath.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

Going after these transfers....... its a good start. in changing that is........ but lets see if he changes his offense and style. If all he thinks he needs to change is player personel then he's refusing to change much at all.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

***, have you ever thought that some of the other teams lacked the same that you do, common sense. A lot of coaches deal the hand their given, and others lie, like Cal, and you, if you had any sense, make excuses. The season is over, COVID didn't affect us any more then most teams. We started two senior transfers, a Soph, and two Freshmen. What affected us more then anything, was Cal's ability to do something other then the Dribble Drive. You and I have never agreed, because you hold on to Cal's balls so tight that your vision is blurred. Lower your head. I don't respond to any of your post, unless their directed to mine. I don't like responding to an idiot, who doesn't know basketball, and now doesn't appear to know much of anything. Do you ever wonder why you don't get very many LIKES to your post? It's because your STUPID! Unless you respond directly to mine, I will NEVER acknowledge your post. That way it's better for both of us. The only thing you probably have in relation to a bass, is a big mouth.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

He admitted he was in BCG's corner and didnt want him to be fired. arguing with that auburn or bama fan posing as a UK fan is pointless.

 

[kybassfan]

He admitted he was in BCG's corner and didnt want him to be fired. arguing with that auburn or bama fan posing as a UK fan is pointless.

Again. Completely false. In fact I never made a post about BCG. I’m not stupid enough to bash my program in public. This just demonstrates how a quitter will post complete falsehoods. I suppose to distract from the fact that they quit.

 

[KyFaninNC]

Again. Completely false. In fact I never made a post about BCG. I’m not stupid enough to bash my program in public. This just demonstrates how a quitter will post complete falsehoods. I suppose to distract from the fact that they quit.

Didn’t you post you wanted the University defunded? Yea or no.

 

[willievic]

He admitted he was in BCG's corner and didnt want him to be fired. arguing with that auburn or bama fan posing as a UK fan is pointless.

I agree. It's just hard to not come-back when he starts calling me an idiot. I guarantee he would not say that to my face, but he's brave on here.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

 

[KyFaninNC]

Again. Completely false. In fact I never made a post about BCG. I’m not stupid enough to bash my program in public. This just demonstrates how a quitter will post complete falsehoods. I suppose to distract from the fact that they quit.

Still waiting. Are you afraid?

 

[willievic]

Ok, this one has not a clue. Still hung up on anatomical references. No substance. No relevance. Thinks a wall of jibberish has meaning. Clearly you are unable to evaluate any functional aspect of the pandemic. I think we already had seen you demonstrate this weakness

By the way, I think you may have mistaken me for someone that gives a damn what you think or whether you acknowledge anything I write.

Letme know when you have something relevant to contribute. I won’t hold my breath.

Without a doubt, you are the most STUPID poster on here. You are the same poster that wanted UK to keep BCG. We all know your not a fan of UK's, just the coaches. Is there something else we should know? Go ahead. come with another one of your STUPID replies. Now you know why most fans on here hate you. It's called stupidity, and just want to argue with everyone, even when you don't know what your talking about. Are you sure your not Cal, you make enough excuses. COVID picked on UK, but left everyone else alone. Your a joke. How does your wife put up with you, or is it just when your there. She should get a real man, not someone who is a loser, and pulls for losing.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

 

[Cobb4uk_rivals287622]

You could have read the rest of my post and actually commented on the content ... but, you chose not to. Why?

Sorry, he's right. I wasted my time to read it. Just preaching to the get rid of Cal posters. The pasture sure Isn't greener in the other pasture. I could be wrong but if I was a betting man I 'd bet he proves you all wrong next year. Funny how no one that wanted Oats said much about their 40 or so foul shooting, imagine that.

 

[Cowtown Cat]

You could have read the rest of my post and actually commented on the content ... but, you chose not to. Why?

Because the Cal nut huggers don’t wanna hear anything that’s not 100% pro Cal. Never seen anything like it. We will never be allowed to win another title as long as he’s here.

I’m absolutely CONVINCED of that and have been for years. I reckon people are okay with that. They’re okay with UK being bent over in the tournament. I guess we get to keep spinning our wheels with Cal.

 

[kybassfan]

Without a doubt, you are the most STUPID poster on here. You are the same poster that wanted UK to keep BCG. We all know your not a fan of UK's, just the coaches. Is there something else we should know? Go ahead. come with another one of your STUPID replies. Now you know why most fans on here hate you. It's called stupidity, and just want to argue with everyone, even when you don't know what your talking about. Are you sure your not Cal, you make enough excuses. COVID picked on UK, but left everyone else alone. Your a joke. How does your wife put up with you, or is it just when your there. She should get a real man, not someone who is a loser, and pulls for losing.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

What a broken record. Let me say this very slow..... I do not care what you think. Do I need to repeat that even slower? You keep repeating the same vomitus like you think I care. I never made a post about BCG. Laugh. Dude, hallucinate much?

Just some friendly advice. I’d leave my wife out of this. She takes up for herself quite well. In addition, its something a real slime ball would do, I guess I should expect that sort of low life insult from quitters.

 

[katkraze]

Cals still selling the nba/one and done model — it no longer works

 

[Eastkybball]

I’ll give Cal 5 more years of support, but he has to get us another title by 2024 at the least.

 

[KyFaninNC]

What a broken record. Let me say this very slow..... I do not care what you think. Do I need to repeat that even slower? You keep repeating the same vomitus like you think I care. I never made a post about BCG. Laugh. Dude, hallucinate much?

Just some friendly advice. I’d leave my wife out of this. She takes up for herself quite well. In addition, its something a real slime ball would do, I guess I should expect that sort of low life insult from quitters.

For a [erson that don't care, you sure get agitated when someone calls you out.

Did you post you wanted the University defunded, yes or no?

 

[TankedCat]

For the people claiming paying bags of money is what ruined it for Cal getting recruits.

OK, lets say that's true

It doesn't change the situation - Cal can wait around for 15 years putting in mediocre by UK standard years and the occasional NIT appearance that will get you fired, kill your reputation as a HOF coach and leave UK in disgrace hoping the NCAA or the NBA will fix it

OR

you can do something about it. Now maybe raiding the transfer portal is - I personally think its a desperation move that is a result of being short sighted on Cal's part but whatever , if it works even for a year I'll take it. Its certainly not a sustainable model for UK. But status quo while you watch Duke do a better job of OAD than UK can do isn't innovative, its not gold standard, its not whatever other pat on the back phrase Cal throws out there about his tenure year.

What isn't going to work is bringing in another Brandon Boston, playing him a ton of minutes while losing games UK should be winning, telling the fans that he has to get his shots and you will risk losing to let the kid achieve his dreams. And just to be clear, Brandon Boston isn't the anomaly many of you think he is. I say Boston is typical of Cal's recruits at this point - a very good high school player that needs 2-3 years at UK to be at a point where his overall is a net positive that results in UK being able to be a title contender. However he has been pumped so much with his hype AND just the fact that he is going to UK now translates that he is NBA bound regardless of what he does on the court at UK. We are NEVER going to win another title with these recruits.

That approach has NOTHING to do with the above described situation. That is a coach who feels like he has nothing to prove and is more interested in what is important to him than to the UK program. Cal could have sent a message to Boston and all future recruits by making him earn his time on the court and giving him the same leash he gives all the non pet players he has. It might not have resulted in Boston returning to UK, but it would have set the tone for the next entitled players that came in. Heck, he should have done it with Diallo and then prepared to adjust his philosophy as a result. We wouldn't have had this season,

And this season is unforgiveable for any UK coach.

 

[TankedCat]

I’ll give Cal 5 more years of support, but he has to get us another title by 2024 at the least.

that's very generous of you

5 years....smh

 

[MakinMusic_rivals]

If you only take guys that will be stars in the nba it means you will get great players. The more guys we get to the nba means the better players we had which means we have good teams/seasons. You'll win more with daaron fox and malik monk than you will askew and mintz/boston. So that angle was always solid even if it put off some fans.

The difference is even a few short years ago, the nba was a delayed gratification. Once the shoe guys dove in, there was instant gratification too and you still got the delayed gratification of the nba. Too much for kids and families to pass up, most of the time.

I say it all the time.....you still want the most elite players you can get. There’s no coach in the country who turns away elite players, the future NBA guys.

 

[TankedCat]

I say it all the time.....you still want the most elite players you can get. There’s no coach in the country who turns away elite players, the future NBA guys.

The problem is instead of continuity from one year to the next, its turned into feast or famine for Kentucky.

While there is no coach in the country who would turn away elite players, there is also no coach in the country who can win a national title with them leaving en masse each season.

I think at this point, there are only a handful of people who actually still believe Cal can load up with talented freshmen and have a better chance of winning a national championship than with a mix of veteran players.

Which leads to the question of why do we continue to invest this model when its clearly broken?

so yea I'd say maybe its time for us to define what elite is - because we aren't in the elite recruiting business anymore.

Boston, Clarke? elite or just very good? (I know, based on play but lets just go with high school rep).

Just very good has continually shown us they are going to be a net negative for most if not all of the season and there is no final four March run. Just very good means head scratching November, December losses, nails on the chalkboard playing while they learn the basics of team basketball and continued fan apathy.

so if that is the case, is there really an argument for a guy like Boston or Clark to be a must have, especially if we don't think they'll see a second year at UK?

 

[TankedCat]

Again. Completely false. In fact I never made a post about BCG. I’m not stupid enough to bash my program in public. This just demonstrates how a quitter will post complete falsehoods. I suppose to distract from the fact that they quit.

what is lost on bassfan and the others of his ilk is they've been coming on a UK message board saying the same thing for years - so its particularly notable to see them 1. talk about people saying the same thing and 2. accomplish absolutely nothing in multiple years of trying.

I'm at point where I could write a bot to just regurgitate the replies of some of these people and no one could tell the difference. Now their response to that is they could do the same for me or others. The difference is I don't come on here with the purpose of insulting and trying to shut down people who have different opinions than me.

I come here to talk Kentucky basketball. They come here to shut up people who they don't agree with. That's what motivates them. Its very odd they pass judgement on so many Kentucky fans when that is their net contribution to this board.

 

[KyFaninNC]

For the people claiming paying bags of money is what ruined it for Cal getting recruits.

OK, lets say that's true

It doesn't change the situation - Cal can wait around for 15 years putting in mediocre by UK standard years and the occasional NIT appearance that will get you fired, kill your reputation as a HOF coach and leave UK in disgrace hoping the NCAA or the NBA will fix it

OR

you can do something about it. Now maybe raiding the transfer portal is - I personally think its a desperation move that is a result of being short sighted on Cal's part but whatever , if it works even for a year I'll take it. Its certainly not a sustainable model for UK. But status quo while you watch Duke do a better job of OAD than UK can do isn't innovative, its not gold standard, its not whatever other pat on the back phrase Cal throws out there about his tenure year.

What isn't going to work is bringing in another Brandon Boston, playing him a ton of minutes while losing games UK should be winning, telling the fans that he has to get his shots and you will risk losing to let the kid achieve his dreams. And just to be clear, Brandon Boston isn't the anomaly many of you think he is. I say Boston is typical of Cal's recruits at this point - a very good high school player that needs 2-3 years at UK to be at a point where his overall is a net positive that results in UK being able to be a title contender. However he has been pumped so much with his hype AND just the fact that he is going to UK now translates that he is NBA bound regardless of what he does on the court at UK. We are NEVER going to win another title with these recruits.

That approach has NOTHING to do with the above described situation. That is a coach who feels like he has nothing to prove and is more interested in what is important to him than to the UK program. Cal could have sent a message to Boston and all future recruits by making him earn his time on the court and giving him the same leash he gives all the non pet players he has. It might not have resulted in Boston returning to UK, but it would have set the tone for the next entitled players that came in. Heck, he should have done it with Diallo and then prepared to adjust his philosophy as a result. We wouldn't have had this season,

And this season is unforgiveable for any UK coach.

If Cal was going to change, we would have nobody going to the draft. Every team member would be back. Alas, they are not. Cal is not going to change.

 

[kybassfan]

what is lost on bassfan and the others of his ilk is they've been coming on a UK message saying the same thing for years - so its particularly notable to see them 1. talk about people saying the same thing and 2. accomplish absolutely nothing in multiple years of trying.

I'm at point where I could write a bot to just regurgitate the replies of some of these people and no one could tell the difference. Now their response to that is they could do the same for me or others. The difference is I don't come on here with the purpose of insulting and trying to shut down people who have different opinions than me.

I come here to talk Kentucky basketball. They come here to shut up people who they don't agree with. That's what motivates them. Its very odd they pass judgement on so many Kentucky fans when that is their net contribution to this board.

Which was exactly your goal. To shut people up.

I love talking basketball. Occasions are rare though. A select few quitters trash the program relentlessly and cry when they get challenged.

 

[TankedCat]

If Cal was going to change, we would have nobody going to the draft. Every team member would be back. Alas, they are not. Cal is not going to change.

I'm not sure at this point we can put stock into returning players. For Cal to change there is going to be some pain involved. The problem for Cal is he should have invested in that pain 2 or 3 years ago to avoid this season. Now he can't afford to have a mass exodus and not replace them with better players. He has zero tolerance from the fans to start out losing while his guys "figure it out" next season.

The real test I believe of Cal getting it is playing time. If a guy has a net negative to the team and Cal is continually investing in him, then he hasn't changed a bit.

Cal , over any other season in his career, needs to rely on analytics to drive his team, because his bias is so bad, he has completely lost perspective on how to put the best team on the court to win.

 

[TankedCat]

Which was exactly your goal. To shut people up.

I love talking basketball. Occasions are rare though. A select few quitters trash the program relentlessly and cry when they get challenged.

next on the greatest hits response chart, the use of CLOD and or a remark about being childish.

Also to prove his point, he'll go make some random meaningless basketball related comment of a few sentences on another thread with zero substance.

 

[KyFaninNC]

Which was exactly your goal. To shut people up.

I love talking basketball. Occasions are rare though. A select few quitters trash the program relentlessly and cry when they get challenged.

Bull ****. You never talk basketball. All you do is insult other posters.


Did you want the University defunded, yes or no. Did you post that?

 

[kybassfan]

next on the greatest hits response chart, the use of CLOD and or a remark about being childish.

Also to prove his point, he'll go make some random meaningless basketball related comment of a few sentences on another thread with zero substance.

Says the quitter trying to bash others to hide himself. Wrong again, huh?

 

[TankedCat]

Says the quitter trying to bash others to hide himself. Wrong again, huh?

yea, you really proved me wrong. congrats, everyone sees you differently now.

 

[kycat14]

The reason we had the season we had was because if Covid, not the NBA angle. Same with Duke. Do you think Coach K is hearing the same criticism as Cal. No, he is not. Duke fans have more sense than UK fans. We have a lot of idiot fans. That’s a fact.

I complete agree with your comment about many UK fans posting on this board. The level of idiocy we have here is stunning. I’d compare it to a 15 years old to a 60 year old.

 

[TankedCat]

I complete agree with your comment about many UK fans posting on this board. The level of idiocy we have here is stunning. I’d compare it to a 15 years old to a 60 year old.

Let Coach K deliver the worst season in Duke history and see what they say

I remember his dry spell and getting bounced from the tourney early years back, and also the back surgery where he bailed on his team and let his assistant take the hit. Duke fans were vocal during this time about Coach K.

60 year olds would remember this , 15 year olds would not

Also its odd that no one is mentioning Roy Williams at UNC. Multiple championship year coach, UNC has a horrible year last year, a not so great year this year. Think the UNC fans are rejoicing his accomplishments at the moment?

 

[kybassfan]

yea, you really proved me wrong. congrats, everyone sees you differently now.

More delusion. You mistake me for someone that gives a damn what others think, especially you. You hide among quitters. That tells me all I need to know.

 

[TankedCat]

More delusion. You mistake me for someone that gives a damn what others think, especially you. You hide among quitters. That tells me all I need to know.

you "give a damn" because you respond like a puppet on the string to these posts. Now you're cursing. Your skin doesn't appear as thick as you beg everyone to believe.

 

[EliteBlue]

Let Coach K deliver the worst season in Duke history and see what they say

I remember his dry spell and getting bounced from the tourney early years back, and also the back surgery where he bailed on his team and let his assistant take the hit. Duke fans were vocal during this time about Coach K.

60 year olds would remember this , 15 year olds would not

Also its odd that no one is mentioning Roy Williams at UNC. Multiple championship year coach, UNC has a horrible year last year, a not so great year this year. Think the UNC fans are rejoicing his accomplishments at the moment?

Additionally, K has accomplished a lot more than Cal at Duke and has more of a cushion.

Add that to the fact that our fanbase is significantly more passionate than theirs which results in being ACTIVELY engaged and not just saying "is what it is, hope the university figures it out" (I live in NC, I watch almost every game at the bar, its a hobby for the majority of UNC and Duke fans, nothing more)

The UK Sports Media beat is 10x larger than any other college in the country because they have an overly passionate and significantly larger fanbase that craves constant information to allow a pro sports size media beat.

 

[kybassfan]

you "give a damn" because you respond like a puppet on the string to these posts. Now you're cursing. Your skin doesn't appear as thick as you beg everyone to believe.

Laugh. Now he plays the puppet card Trying to look cool among his quitter friends. He’ll keep going trying to get in the last word. After it is all said and done, still nothing but a fair weather fan frantically rationalizing why he quit. Comparing himself to Puke fans. They quit so he can quit. Rather pathetic.

 

[TankedCat]

Additionally, K has accomplished a lot more than Cal at Duke and has more of a cushion.

Add that to the fact that our fanbase is significantly more passionate than theirs which results in being ACTIVELY engaged and not just saying "is what it is, hope the university figures it out" (I live in NC, I watch almost every game at the bar, its a hobby for the majority of UNC and Duke fans, nothing more)

The UK Sports Media beat is 10x larger than any other college in the country because they have an overly passionate and significantly larger fanbase that craves constant information to allow a pro sports size media beat.

the arena attendance figures are #1 (or they were, thanks Cal), the merchandising is top 10 last time I checked, certainly they feed the revenues of not just UK but other SEC schools who cannot field competitive teams year after year. The fanbase, however quick to judge or critical they are, are the reason UK can afford to pay a coach like Calipari - especially at a state school in a relatively poor state that doesn't have a major city. Lexington is the definition of a small cap market, yet UK is able to play like a major sports hub for college.

You accept those fans at face value, because their value is very significant to the University.

 

[wildcatwelder_rivals]

I’ll give Cal 5 more years of support, but he has to get us another title by 2024 at the least.

Heck yeah!! Let's see: 5 more years at 9 million a year is $45 million more in the old bank account!! Keep cashing them checks Ellen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[willievic]

What a broken record. Let me say this very slow..... I do not care what you think. Do I need to repeat that even slower? You keep repeating the same vomitus like you think I care. I never made a post about BCG. Laugh. Dude, hallucinate much?

Just some friendly advice. I’d leave my wife out of this. She takes up for herself quite well. In addition, its something a real slime ball would do, I guess I should expect that sort of low life insult from quitters.

 

[willievic]

You can't quit, because you don't have enough sense to be a winner. You brought your family into the conservation earlier. Don't bring something up if you don't want it repeated. All you want to do is argue. I'm for UK not Cal. Your for someone beside UK, and you want any coach to stay that isn't winning.
Go ahead and send another one of your idiot post. I'm tired of arguing with a FOOL. Like some posters said, "Don't argue with a fool, because they will beat you down to their level." Tell all of us how great this season was. That shows your stupidity. Adios, Dumb-***.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

I'm surprised these exact sentiments haven't been printed before during the course of this disappointing season, unless you want to count the other 7,000 threads that have said more or less the same thing.

By the way, the idea that Cal has been a one-trick pony and that this is the only way he can win defies history and common sense.

It's not the system that got him to the Final Four at Massachusetts, and by which he elevated a totally obscure program to national prominence.

It's not the system that got him to the Final Game in Memphis, and by which he elevated a mid-major to the top ranks fo college basketball.

So, the premise of many responding on this thread is demonstrably false.

Two people agreed with your post vs 46 for the OP. That means 4% agreed with your take.

Looks like you're Custer on this one, going into Little Big Horn Creek without enough troops and pretty much getting scalped by a few thousand Cheyenne and Lakota. I think I see you somewhere in the middle of this painting in that yellow buffalo coat...

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

Why should I? Your points have been discussed into oblivion. Nothing new on the table. In fact that was the only thing of merit. How utterly redundant the thought is. Given that, I commented on that aspect as it was the only thing worthy of discourse. Seems like you were aware of that when you made the post.

You every time you refuse to engage in discussion (you're the little guy on the left):

 

[Eastkybball]

Heck yeah!! Let's see: 5 more years at 9 million a year is $45 million more in the old bank account!! Keep cashing them checks Ellen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yea I know my opinion is always dumb thanks for reminding. F u

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

Heck yeah!! Let's see: 5 more years at 9 million a year is $45 million more in the old bank account!! Keep cashing them checks Ellen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You'd think with all the money they're raking in from the state and its people, they'd tell their entitled daughters to get off social media and pipe down a bit.