Honest question for Cal supporters

[gwjenning]

Let’s say Cal left after the 2015 38-1 season for the NBA and we hired coach x who took over in 2016

Over the past 5 seasons coach x performed exactly like Cal has, roster turnover and all
Home losses to Evansville and Richmond, going 1-4 against Kansas while allowing them to close in on our all time wins
Losses to terrible Indiana, Kansas State, and Auburn without their best player in the NCAA tournament
Tennessee owning us and Auburn as far as that goes in the SEC

Sitting at 1-6 this season, worst start since 1911 and probably won’t even make the NIT
Taking jabs at the fans and won’t give Allen a chance

Would you still be willing to hang onto Coach x or ready to find someone new?

 

[docholiday51]

You won't get many answers to this one.

 

[sa_hunt]

Let’s say Cal left after the 2015 38-1 season for the NBA and we hired coach x who took over in 2016

Over the past 5 seasons coach x performed exactly like Cal has, roster turnover and all
Home losses to Evansville and Richmond, going 1-4 against Kansas while allowing them to close in on our all time wins
Losses to terrible Indiana, Kansas State, and Auburn without their best player in the NCAA tournament
Tennessee owning us and Auburn as far as that goes in the SEC

Sitting at 1-6 this season, worst start since 1911 and probably won’t even make the NIT

Would you still be willing to hang onto Coach x or ready to find someone new?

I'd be ready for someone new. However, the fact is I give Cal a pass for those years after 2015 because of all he's done for the program leading up to that. If it continues on this trajectory much longer, then I too, will be wanting someone else but its not time, YET.

 

[Blue Wildcat]

We shouldn’t accept this level of performance from anyone. Can Cal fix it? I’m certain he can. Will he? I don’t think he will. He’s not going to adjust his approach and it simply doesn’t work anymore. When he was the only one willing to take 1 and done players, he was the master.

The landscape has changed (others recruiting high profile players and the G league specifically) and he hasn’t adjusted to this point. It’s not ok to lose games, it’s never ok to lose the ones he has, and we certainly should not lose them on our home floor. I don’t think he’s interested in doing anything differently than what he’s always done-because of that, I say he fails miserably from here on out.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

Let’s say Cal left after the 2015 38-1 season for the NBA and we hired coach x who took over in 2016

Over the past 5 seasons coach x performed exactly like Cal has, roster turnover and all
Home losses to Evansville and Richmond, going 1-4 against Kansas while allowing them to close in on our all time wins
Losses to terrible Indiana, Kansas State, and Auburn without their best player in the NCAA tournament
Tennessee owning us and Auburn as far as that goes in the SEC

Sitting at 1-6 this season, worst start since 1911 and probably won’t even make the NIT

Would you still be willing to hang onto Coach x or ready to find someone new?

First off AU had their best 2 players, those guards. I know who you are talking about and he may have went higher in the draft but at that point and time those two guards were the problem.
2ndly we were trying to beat them for a 3rd straight time that season, thats hard.
3rdly its UKs worst start since 1923 not 1911 so get your facts straight.
4thly 5-7 v UT since 2016 and 4-4 v Auburn is not “getting owned.”

 

[gwjenning]

First off AU had their best 2 players, those guards. I know who you are talking about and he may have went higher in the draft but at that point and time those two guards were the problem.
2ndly we were trying to beat them for a 3rd straight time that season, thats hard.
3rdly its UKs worst start since 1923 not 1911 so get your facts straight.
4thly 5-7 v UT since 2016 and 4-4 v Auburn is not “getting owned.”

You danced around that question in typical Cal fashion. Lol! I applaud you!

I’ve seen 1911 and 1923. The fact is that 1-6 is 1-6. If taking off 12 years to make it 1923 good for you moral king!

Auburn/UK series may be 4-4 but the past 2 years it’s favored Auburn and they owned us in the most important matchup in the elite 8 without oceke “ their best player”

 

[Ollie.ksr]

This is a pretty good question. I will give it a shot.
1. Going with just scenario you posted, yes, I would be upset.
2. Looking back the past 5 years.
25-6 and actually feeling good going into NCAA tourney
30-7, very disappointing ending
26-11, disappointing ending
32-6, lost to eventually NC's on a last second shot in what I would say was the NC game. Upset but sometimes you don't get the ball to bounce your way.
27-9, very disappointing ending.
3. So in looking forward, is there a coach out there that I can get that I know will produce better than what we've just had. I personally don't think there is someone out there that can do that, or should I say that would leave where they are to come to UK.
4. I'm more upset with Cal because of how he coaches.
a. run set plays so the kids can learn spacing and what ball movement does to the defense, the players' basketball IQ is zero. I have coached at the lowest level there is 1st - 8th grades and these kids on UK's team this year remind me of grade school kids because they DO NOT know what to do.
b. Play zone when other team has ball under their basket, switch right back to man to man when they get it in. I would love to know how many under the baskets Cal has given up over the years.
c. I will NEVER get over his first year against WVU. He didn't know what offense to run against a 1-3-1. You should have your team prepared to run an offense against ANY defense, if you don't, then one of your assistants better know something. UK had no idea what the do and Cal even admitted that he had call Joe B to find out what offense to run.

All in all, I hate what's going on right now, but I honestly don't think there is anyone else out there right now that would UK could get that could do better.

 

[UK2005_24]

This is a pretty good question. I will give it a shot.
1. Going with just scenario you posted, yes, I would be upset.
2. Looking back the past 5 years.
25-6 and actually feeling good going into NCAA tourney
30-7, very disappointing ending
26-11, disappointing ending
32-6, lost to eventually NC's on a last second shot in what I would say was the NC game. Upset but sometimes you don't get the ball to bounce your way.
27-9, very disappointing ending.
3. So in looking forward, is there a coach out there that I can get that I know will produce better than what we've just had. I personally don't think there is someone out there that can do that, or should I say that would leave where they are to come to UK.
4. I'm more upset with Cal because of how he coaches.
a. run set plays so the kids can learn spacing and what ball movement does to the defense, the players' basketball IQ is zero. I have coached at the lowest level there is 1st - 8th grades and these kids on UK's team this year remind me of grade school kids because they DO NOT know what to do.
b. Play zone when other team has ball under their basket, switch right back to man to man when they get it in. I would love to know how many under the baskets Cal has given up over the years.
c. I will NEVER get over his first year against WVU. He didn't know what offense to run against a 1-3-1. You should have your team prepared to run an offense against ANY defense, if you don't, then one of your assistants better know something. UK had no idea what the do and Cal even admitted that he had call Joe B to find out what offense to run.

All in all, I hate what's going on right now, but I honestly don't think there is anyone else out there right now that would UK could get that could do better.

UK will always find the right fit. They found Pitino and then they found Calipari when he was at the top of his recruiting game. This is UK and a 1-6 record as of now and fixing to be 9 years since the last championship means it's about time for a change if Cal can't fix it next season!

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

As I’ve said many times; I give Cal next season to get things righted in some fashion. If next season is a disaster, I’m ok with him being done. But he gets the time because he’s earned it. It’s up to him now.

 

[gwjenning]

This is a pretty good question. I will give it a shot.
1. Going with just scenario you posted, yes, I would be upset.
2. Looking back the past 5 years.
25-6 and actually feeling good going into NCAA tourney
30-7, very disappointing ending
26-11, disappointing ending
32-6, lost to eventually NC's on a last second shot in what I would say was the NC game. Upset but sometimes you don't get the ball to bounce your way.
27-9, very disappointing ending.
3. So in looking forward, is there a coach out there that I can get that I know will produce better than what we've just had. I personally don't think there is someone out there that can do that, or should I say that would leave where they are to come to UK.
4. I'm more upset with Cal because of how he coaches.
a. run set plays so the kids can learn spacing and what ball movement does to the defense, the players' basketball IQ is zero. I have coached at the lowest level there is 1st - 8th grades and these kids on UK's team this year remind me of grade school kids because they DO NOT know what to do.
b. Play zone when other team has ball under their basket, switch right back to man to man when they get it in. I would love to know how many under the baskets Cal has given up over the years.
c. I will NEVER get over his first year against WVU. He didn't know what offense to run against a 1-3-1. You should have your team prepared to run an offense against ANY defense, if you don't, then one of your assistants better know something. UK had no idea what the do and Cal even admitted that he had call Joe B to find out what offense to run.

All in all, I hate what's going on right now, but I honestly don't think there is anyone else out there right now that would UK could get that could do better.

I appreciate your answer but ask you to think about it a bit more. Remember in this scenario coach x took over after the great run by cal 2010-2015.
I think Cals success from 2010-2015 would give coach x an even shorter leash. We would want rid of coach x to look for another first 5 year Cal.

 

[kybassfan]

Let’s say Cal left after the 2015 38-1 season for the NBA and we hired coach x who took over in 2016

Over the past 5 seasons coach x performed exactly like Cal has, roster turnover and all
Home losses to Evansville and Richmond, going 1-4 against Kansas while allowing them to close in on our all time wins
Losses to terrible Indiana, Kansas State, and Auburn without their best player in the NCAA tournament
Tennessee owning us and Auburn as far as that goes in the SEC

Sitting at 1-6 this season, worst start since 1911 and probably won’t even make the NIT
Taking jabs at the fans and won’t give Allen a chance

Would you still be willing to hang onto Coach x or ready to find someone new?

Coach X is the coach as long as the university keeps him. There is no willing to this. We’re just fans. We don’t hire and fire coaches. Suck it up or leave. Really simple.

 

[TheDude73]

I swear, the loudest of our fanbase seems to be those that 100% want Cal gone, or those that 100% want Cal here forever, regardless of results.

Funny thing is, both of those groups are in the minority, yet they are the loudest. I'm convinced that most of us are somewhere in the middle - don't want him gone (yet), but want some improvements/adaptations to the system.

 

[BigBlueGuru]

Simply put there is no one you can name that would be willing to come in and take the job if Cal was fired. Nobody. By any standard you want to apply Cal has earned at least 1 more year an maybe two to fix this. Now the questions is will he fix it or is he to stubborn to change? Only time will tell. I think he needs to replace the Assistant Coaches which I doubt he will do. He needs to adjust his recruiting and recruit for team need instead of just mostly 5 start athletes. Recruit for team need then coach them up to play better defense and the fundamentals. But after 2 years I doubt he does any of that and hopefully we will be looking for a replacement.

 

[ZaytovenCat]

I swear, the loudest of our fanbase seems to be those that 100% want Cal gone, or those that 100% want Cal here forever, regardless of results.

Funny thing is, both of those groups are in the minority, yet they are the loudest. I'm convinced that most of us are somewhere in the middle - don't want him gone (yet), but want some improvements/adaptations to the system.

Problem is I’ve seen people on here for nearly 4 years saying what you said in that last sentence. It should be clear by his actions, and his words the past week, that he isn’t changing anything and thinks his way is right.

 

[BigBlueGuru]

Dont get me wrong I have never liked Cal and his attitude toward the fans for the same reason I did not like Pitino and his holier than thou attitude. It wouldnt bother me if Cal left tomorrow but the point remains if he is fired nobody worth anything would be willing to take the job after firing a top 5 coach in the last 10 years by any stretch of the imagination. Cal deserves the chance to turn this around and if he cant turn it around then and only then should he be fired. 2 years max

 

[TheWyldKat_rivals45219]

As I’ve said many times; I give Cal next season to get things righted in some fashion. If next season is a disaster, I’m ok with him being done. But he gets the time because he’s earned it. It’s up to him now.

So next year with Brooks, Jackson, ware , toppin, askew, and Mintz, along with the new comers Cal needs to make a big splash and have an exciting year with a great tournament run, elite eight or final four. Other than that I’m with you. May have to make a change.

 

[BradleyCrawford08_rivals]

I swear, the loudest of our fanbase seems to be those that 100% want Cal gone, or those that 100% want Cal here forever, regardless of results.

Funny thing is, both of those groups are in the minority, yet they are the loudest. I'm convinced that most of us are somewhere in the middle - don't want him gone (yet), but want some improvements/adaptations to the system.

It also seems like the people on the extreme end that want Cal to stay regardless of results think that those who want him to stay but change are just part of the 100% anti-Cal group just because there are disagreements with his coaching and recruiting. All they say is “Cal hater, Cal hater, Cal hater.”

I’m in the middle. Cal has earned some leeway in my mind because of what he’s been able to before but we shouldn’t think he’s the only one that can lead the program. Hopefully he can show a willingness to adapt his overall strategy. We’ll just have to wait and see what happens.

 

[TankedCat]

reading this reminded me of a Bill Simmons column and a point he has referenced multiple times over the years - his 5 year rule.

Here are some excerpts from the column - its written for support of professional teams so its not 100% applicable and I'm sure many would not agree

The point I've always gone by is the 5 year rule - and I apply that to final fours in college basketball, not championships.


After your team wins a championship, they immediately get a five-year grace period: You can't complain about anything that happens with your team (trades, draft picks, salary-cap cuts, coaching moves) for five years. There are no exceptions. For instance, the Pats could finish 0-80 over the next five years and I wouldn't say a peep. That's just the way it is. You win the Super Bowl, you go on cruise control for five years. Everything else is gravy.

Don't boo your team unless it's absolutely warranted -- like with the brutal Knicks situation this season, or if you're hoping to get a coach fired or a specific player traded or something. When you think about it, what's the purpose of booing your team? If you're trying to inspire them, usually you end up sending them into a deeper funk -- odds are, your team already knows it's struggling. And if you're trying to light a fire under a specific player, usually you end up making him even more nervous and tentative. So why boo in the first place? Trust me, dead silence sends a bigger message than anything. And it's not potentially destructive.

It's OK to root against your team, if they're hopelessly out of the playoff race and you want them to keep losing so A) they'll get a better draft pick, or B) you're hoping the coach and/or GM will get fired. Don't feel bad about it.

No hopping on and off the bandwagon during the season with the flip-flop, "I knew we were going to self-destruct! ... All right, we won six straight! ... I knew we wouldn't keep playing this well. ... I knew we would bounce back!" routine as the season drags along. Just for the record, this is probably my biggest fault as a sports fan -- I overreact to everything. I've already written off the Celtics three different times this season, and I've given up on Antoine Walker roughly 435 times over the past six years. Can I get some medication for this?

So I have some criteria for a coach at UK

Must haves (absolutes)
1. Final Four at least once every 5 years, the resulting assumption means a title every 10 years
2. Maintain all time wins

Wants but not absolutes (assuming 1 & 2 are being met)
3. Win SEC championship at a clip > than SEC counterparts
4. No mounting embarrassing losses - once every 3 or 4 years, OK, but
blow out loss to Duke? followed by a loss to Evansvilles at Rupp, followed by this season? not no but hell no
(this makes our program a punch line and its completely unacceptable)
5. Win at least one marquee matchup each year outside of Louisville - which means UNC, Kansas, UCLA, Duke, Michigan St, (insert current hot program now such as Gonzaga)

That's what I expect from any coach at UK, regardless of what he has done prior for us. Cal is paid well to have UK perform at a high level every year, not just what he did when he was dialed in 7 years ago.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

I'd be ready for someone new. However, the fact is I give Cal a pass for those years after 2015 because of all he's done for the program leading up to that. If it continues on this trajectory much longer, then I too, will be wanting someone else but its not time, YET.

So we actually agree. I don't think it's time YET either, but that time will be here after next season. The difference between us is I have 0 expectation of Cal doing anything different or in our trajectory changing. He has painted himself into a corner.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

You can't pretend the first six years didn't exist tho.

Many people that still support Cal do so because he's proven in the past he could have success and have success doing it the way he has been.

Now whether that's still the case remains to be seen.

But to answer the question that would be the difference between Cal's last five and a brand new coach performing at the same level.

 

[H00SIER-Cat]

Must haves (absolutes)
1. Final Four at least once every 5 years, the resulting assumption means a title every 10 years
2. Maintain all time wins

Wants but not absolutes (assuming 1 & 2 are being met)
3. Win SEC championship at a clip > than SEC counterparts
4. No mounting embarrassing losses - once every 3 or 4 years, OK, but
blow out loss to Duke? followed by a loss to Evansvilles at Rupp, followed by this season? not no but hell no
(this makes our program a punch line and its completely unacceptable)
5. Win at least one marquee matchup each year outside of Louisville - which means UNC, Kansas, UCLA, Duke, Michigan St, (insert current hot program now such as Gonzaga)

That's what I expect from any coach at UK, regardless of what he has done prior for us. Cal is paid well to have UK perform at a high level every year, not just what he did when he was dialed in 7 years ago.

Sounds good but you're talking Rupp / Wooden / K / Knight / Phog Allen type legends. And i'm not sure all of those meet that criteria.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

Really the only difference between the ones that want Cal gone and the ones that support Cal and want him to stay is one group doesn't think he can replicate the results from the first six years while the others do believe he can.

Ultimately, the results are going to show one way or the other. Either he'll replicate them and go down as one of the best if not the best UK coach ever...........or he won't and he'll be gone.

 

[TankedCat]

Sounds good but you're talking Rupp / Wooden / K / Knight / Phog Allen type legends. And i'm not sure all of those meet that criteria.

Cal knew this coming into the job

 

[gwjenning]

Really the only difference between the ones that want Cal gone and the ones that support Cal and want him to stay is one group doesn't think he can replicate the results from the first six years while the others do believe he can.

Ultimately, the results are going to show one way or the other. Either he'll replicate them and go down as one of the best if not the best UK coach ever...........or he won't and he'll be gone.

No way Cal replicates. He has created a players first and putting players into the NBA culture. Recruits think they are NBA material if cal offers a scholarship.

Cal’s ego makes him want to be considered the best at something. Winning more championships than K is out. Going 40-0 is out after 2015.

He wants to go down as the college coach that had the most players drafted and their combined contract payouts amount to the most in history.

What’s best for UK has fallen far behind what cal thinks is best for him.

 

[Susan2361]

We shouldn’t accept this level of performance from anyone. Can Cal fix it? I’m certain he can. Will he? I don’t think he will. He’s not going to adjust his approach and it simply doesn’t work anymore. When he was the only one willing to take 1 and done players, he was the master.

The landscape has changed (others recruiting high profile players and the G league specifically) and he hasn’t adjusted to this point. It’s not ok to lose games, it’s never ok to lose the ones he has, and we certainly should not lose them on our home floor. I don’t think he’s interested in doing anything differently than what he’s always done-because of that, I say he fails miserably from here on out.

I think the majority of fans would like to keep Cal based on his past performance here, but just want him to adapt and change things up a bit. Realize that things as they are, are not working and to make adjustments. But really, in all honesty, do you think he is capable of change, or even WANTS to? If you can answer that question, then we, as a University can go from there and move on, because realistically I think the answer is no.

 

[JoeBolognas]

This is a fantastic question, OP. I think a lot of the criticism of Cal is really dumb, uninformed, and uneducated. With that said, if we had a brand new coach that only took over beginning in 2016-17, and had absolutely no prior success to point to, then right now, I would find myself on the side of wanting him gone with the leeway to change my mind based on how the rest of the season goes.

 

[Whoppercat]

3rdly its UKs worst start since 1923 not 1911 so get your facts straight.

Sports Illustrated headline:
“Kentucky's Loss to Louisville Marks Program's Worst Start Since 1911”

Being always wrong AND a dick is a bad combo.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

No way Cal replicates. He has created a players first and putting players into the NBA culture. Recruits think they are NBA material if cal offers a scholarship.

Cal’s ego makes him want to be considered the best at something. Winning more championships than K is out. Going 40-0 is out after 2015.

He wants to go down as the college coach that had the most players drafted and their combined contract payouts amount to the most in history.

What’s best for UK has fallen far behind what cal thinks is best for him.

I mean he's taking teams like Umass and Memphis that didn't have this one and done system to final fours so I don't think it's totally out of the question that he can't change.

 

[JoeBolognas]

No way Cal replicates. He has created a players first and putting players into the NBA culture. Recruits think they are NBA material if cal offers a scholarship.

Cal’s ego makes him want to be considered the best at something. Winning more championships than K is out. Going 40-0 is out after 2015.

He wants to go down as the college coach that had the most players drafted and their combined contract payouts amount to the most in history.

What’s best for UK has fallen far behind what cal thinks is best for him.

lol

 

[jackcarlson]

it is just not fair to judge almost any coach when his team is composed of kids just out of high school! Yes, we have a couple of grad students, but that is not enough. The good news is that I personally do not see any of these kids going pro next year. We may finally have a team with some real overall experience. IF they truly have the talent they are supposed to have, this year's debacle will soon be forgotten. They should all spend next summer doing nothing but shooting free throws. Forget the NBA and prove you can win at the college level. The money will always be there if you are good enough....

 

[Blue Wildcat]

I mean he's taking teams like Umass and Memphis that didn't have this one and done system to final fours so I don't think it's totally out of the question that he can't change.

With you, he’s capable, but does he want to is the real question. With everything he’s said so far, it appears he doesn’t want to.

 

[FinancialPlannerZac]

I'm also in the in-between crowd. Cal gets a pass, and a chance to right the ship next year, but he needs to right it quickly. Many talk about how they are upset with the one and done, understandably. Well, to not be just a one and done program you will have some years where the talent is just not there. We stand to return plenty of players from this team next year based on what we've seen on the floor so far. Of course, we've certainly seen the Baker's, Juzang's etc as well, and that has been a problem for sure.

This year, in particular, has been the perfect storm for Cal. The loss of KP as someone that can be the good cop to Cal's bad cop. The shortened season with a lack of exhibitions and November cupcakes that help a team gel and build confidence. The Keion Brooks injury/mystery. And more than anything, these players more so than other years have a heightened immaturity and a lack of intrinsic fight. Cal recruited them, is coaching them now, so that's completely on him. This season has to come back to Cal, no excuses. But it could lead to exactly what many have been clamoring for over the next couple of seasons... Not as talented guys that have been in the program for longer than a year who develop over time. Unfortunately for us in the present time, we have a team full of early-on Nick Richards. But I can see a scenario where we're happy with stuck with Cal, just like we were with Big Nick.

 

[JoeBolognas]

With you, he’s capable, but does he want to is the real question. With everything he’s said so far, it appears he doesn’t want to.

I guess my response to that is: He’s had an incredible amount of success over about 3 decades in college basketball, widely varying eras, different schools, different conferences, etc. What should make me throw all of that data out the window and believe its going to end? Because he gave some quotes that suggest he doesn’t want to totally scrap the system he’s run so successfully?

Its possible that Cal is washed. But I need more evidence of that before I jump on board.

 

[JKBCAT]

Let’s say Cal left after the 2015 38-1 season for the NBA and we hired coach x who took over in 2016

Over the past 5 seasons coach x performed exactly like Cal has, roster turnover and all
Home losses to Evansville and Richmond, going 1-4 against Kansas while allowing them to close in on our all time wins
Losses to terrible Indiana, Kansas State, and Auburn without their best player in the NCAA tournament
Tennessee owning us and Auburn as far as that goes in the SEC

Sitting at 1-6 this season, worst start since 1911 and probably won’t even make the NIT
Taking jabs at the fans and won’t give Allen a chance

Would you still be willing to hang onto Coach x or ready to find someone new?

Coach of the decade, yes I am keeping Cal. That's an honest answer

 

[c1doc]

We won the SEC by 3 games last season with a lot of upperclassmen... Had one of the best shooters in school history with Quickley... another good shooter in Maxey.... the year before we had another one of the best shooters in school history with Herro... Also, Cal hired Jai Lucas and made him an On Court Assistant as well as Lead Recruiter.... This year is just an anomaly IMO....

 

[UKWildcatT]

We won the SEC by 3 games last season with a lot of upperclassmen... Had one of the best shooters in school history with Quickley... another good shooter in Maxey.... the year before we had another one of the best shooters in school history with Herro... Also, Cal hired Jai Lucas and made him an On Court Assistant as well as Lead Recruiter.... This year is just an anomaly IMO....

Maxey was a good shooter?! I haven’t looked at his stats, but I’m betting he was around 40% on field goals and 30 % on threes

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

I guess my response to that is: He’s had an incredible amount of success over about 3 decades in college basketball, widely varying eras, different schools, different conferences, etc. What should make me throw all of that data out the window and believe its going to end? Because he gave some quotes that suggest he doesn’t want to totally scrap the system he’s run so successfully?

Its possible that Cal is washed. But I need more evidence of that before I jump on board.

Exactly,

I mean if people are using the last 10 years as evidence that he can't change, you could easily use the past 30 as evidence that he indeed can. He didn't always use this system. He's adapted.

Heck even the things some people don't like ......things like pro day and such.........it always seems like Cal is ahead of the curve with things. The one and done system.

Whether he does or doesn't who knows but there is zero doubt that he could.

 

[UKWildcatT]

Maxey was a good shooter?! I haven’t looked at his stats, but I’m betting he was around 40% on field goals and 30 % on threes

I wasn’t far off

Maxey stats

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

I think the more important question is does he feel that the system needs changing to begin with.

Yes we've had some shaky seasons past 5 years. But he could also easily look at 2017 and 2019 and think "hmm we were one step away from final fours those years". There's zero doubt in my mind he felt those were title contending teams. And if we are being honest here, they were.

So does he look to that and feel maybe nothing needs changing? Who knows.

 

[billCgmx]

Coach X is the coach as long as the university keeps him. There is no willing to this. We’re just fans. We don’t hire and fire coaches. Suck it up or leave. Really simple.

Wrong

It's not that unusual to see boosters getting a coach fired.