Tubby will get a standing ovation. Rupp Arena fans have a different mindset than Rafters posters. Guess it’s the anonymity.
UK vs High Point in the future?
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Tubby is a great floor coach. Better than Cal and Pitino. He is not a motivator like these guys and didn’t like to recruit.
Cal has had much better talent than Tubby and he has how many titles end of discussion
Glad you love him. Great man
One title is better than your friend Billy G
Wow....you gotta be kidding me.
If all players were exactly equal, Pitino would run circles around Tubby's 10 games out of 10.
Pitino has a winning record vs Tubby and Pitino has had inferior talent.
You must really love Tubby to think this.
Thats the poor mans comparison, you have to compare the whole body of work. Tubby took over the Alabama of basketball. Calipari took over a team from the basement.
If you want to use your comparison theory, wouldn't Billy D be better than Cal? Isn't Pitino better? Roy Williams too? These are all coaches that Cal owns, btw.
Then why didn't Pitino win in 1997 with 2 All-Americans?
Tubby is a great coach. He showed that in the Duke game and all throughout March actually.
I always hated the narrative that Tubby won with Pitino's players. I agree that it was time for him to go in 2007 but he won that title in '98. Not Rick.
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Or if Bogans doesn’t get injured, or Sparks had a foulscalled or, if, what,......
You are playing a pathetic fools game. What if’s cut both ways and Tubby was knocking on the door a lot....
He will go into the rafters. You will cry and get even more butt hurt and wretched than you are now. I will laugh at you.
DA missed the last half of the season. It’s universally believed (known) that UK wins the championship in 97 with a healthy DA. Actually, the runner-up finish was an amazing coaching job. To overcome losing arguably your best player midseason & still making it to OT of the championship game is pretty damn impressive, IMO.
don’t necessarily “love” tubby. Common knowledge that he was a great floor coach.
Coach P knew it and that is why he was on staff. It’s his best quality besides being a class act.
Look at SEXtino’s OT. Record vs Tubby Rick makes bad in game decisions but Pitino about to get a show cause when NCAA rules on uavel bribery case and his career will be over
I just wish posters would refrain from all the lame excuses for Tubby's failures. Yeah, Sparks may well have been fouled but during a key sequence Hays was sitting on the bench when Mich St was playing volleyball at the hoop. It is time to bury the excuses and give credit where credit is due and let his record speak for itself. The excuses are exactly the reason I fell off the Tubby bandwagon years ago. Excuses are what losers do.
Finally, another voice of reason regarding the myth of Bogan's ankle keeping UK from winning. I debated at length with a poster on this a while back.
I provided reviews of the game, stats, etc., which clearly showed it wasn't going to matter about Bogan's ankle. Marquette was on fire that night. Two of their other players had the game of their lives. Even IF Bogan's had held Wade to his season average, UK was losing that night because of the play of the other two Marquette players.
I thnk the question, which can never really be settled, is how much did Bogan's ankle affect our defensive efficiency and team psychology going in to the game.
How much could our incredible defense that year, if all things were optimal and it showed up, have prevented them from going off?
How much could our incredible defense that year, if all things were optimal and it showed up, have prevented them from going off?
This is Bs actually.
Tubby let the players run Pitino’s system in 98. They basically coached themselves. We didn’t play Tubby ball until 99.
Nice try though.
Kentucky ran Pitino’s system in 98. The players coached themselves. Tubby was just asked not to F it up.
from 99 on Tubby ball ensued and we never ran more. 0 final fours with his own players, and that includes like 4 or 5 programs and a blue blood.
That is the most stupid statement I have ever read:chairshot:Tubby let the players run Pitino’s system! Have you ever seen a Tubby team press?
The Cats lost to Ole Miss in Rupp in Febuary in 98 and Tubby had a come to Jesus meeting telling them Pitino’s systems don’t work They played Ball Line defense the rest of the way and never lost
I know every player on that team to a man they will tell you Pitino’s system wouldn’t work they were too slow
You must live in a fantasy world
Probably nothing but a healthy Bogans certainly may have changed the outcome we can only guess
No, I live in the real world. You are incorrect.
A Tubby press? You mean like his button downs?
Sorry you have no answer for my factual rebuttal either you are a Uavel fan or a juvenile on Mommas laptop obviously you have been exposed as a person who knows nothing about basketball
Now go away
No I have no answer for your constant anecdotes because they are just that, stories. I don’t care if you knew them.
The 1998 Kentucky Wildcats resembled Pinito’s style, it was nothing like Tubby implemented later on.
Are you drinking? Pitino's coaching is on a completely different level than Tubby's. I hate UL more than the average, but if you think Tubby was better at anything vs Pitino youre nuts. Anything you want to look at, titles? Final Fours? Tourney wins? Head to head? Really no comparison.
Tubby's been at High Point multiple seasons and and I guarantee Pitino's team could run High Point out of the country in his first year.
I cant believe fandom fogs peoples perspective this much.
Nobody was beating Bibby and Simon in March that year. And then that same team beat UK again soundly the following season...actually beat us bad with Tubby as coach.
Tubby is a great coach? Either your standards are Tennessee-type low or your love for a worthless coach is so great you lost perspective.
A great coach doesn't suck at Memphis, Minnesota, Texas Tech and now High point. And dont get me started how he inherited the premiere program when UK was at peak and turned us into a mid-major. Yeah, great coach.
I wouldn't say that Tubby sucked at Texas Tech but at Memphis and Minnesota, yeah. At High Point, I guess time will tell but it aint looking too good at this point.
Based on the box score and what I saw that night.....it wouldn't have mattered.
We've all seen how a team can go off....recall the Crispin Brothers.
11-25-00
Between the two they scored 57 points including 7/15 and 6/8 3s between the two.
We've all seen UK do the same. I recall the 92 SEC Tourney Championship against a pretty good Alabama team....80-54.
Sometimes it's your night and sometimes it isn't.
Tubby had 3 seasons at Texas Tech and his best season was barely above .500.....that sucks in my book. I believe thats worse than Bobby Knights son.
I dont think theres any question at High Point....in two seasons he's won 25 games.
Bottom line---- he owes CM for the UK hire. If he goes into the rafters he'll be the only coach that actually made UK worse from where they took it over.
But prior to Kentucky he won at Tulsa and UGA. He got both to the Sweet 16; Tulsa has only been once since and Georgia hasn't advanced that far since. How do you explain those away? He got older and lost his edge, as do a lot of coaches.
I watched the 1998 Title game over the past two days. UK was 10-2 in games they trailed at the half in 1998. Luck? Or do you think maybe coaching had a little to do with it? During the Tournament he kept making adjustment after adjustment to help UK win. It is his title ... Pitino didn't coach any part of that (and as I stated, lost the year prior with a more talented roster).
Tubby had other good years but the UAB loss, the Marquette loss, Michigan State, obviously sting. A lot like Cal's March losses. It's random. I think people in general put too much stock in how poor his last two years were and not his whole body of work.
Smh...
First if you know anything about basketball and coaching, you can't just win a championship by rolling the ball out, so the ones who constantly say it was Pitino's players are crazy, let's see, Pitino didn't win the championship with those players the year prior...put that to rest
Second, for the ones who say he was fired, or abandoned us, please, he left because his wife had had enough of the racist crab she was hearing in the stands, he never wanted to leave
Third, Tubby is the best X and O coach Kentucky has ever had, add Pitino's defense and Cals recruiting, then you got one hell of a coach, all coaches do one thing great.
Fourth, Tubby recruiting suffered because he ran his program with class, not taking short cuts, not taking bribes, not taking boosters help, if you know what I mean.
Finally, I have got to know Tubby over the years, he has always said positive things about Kentucky, he misses UK, he will do anything for anybody. If you ever run across him, it won't be the typical blow off that some profile people give, he will engage you In a conversation, I live in Virginia, and when High Points in the area, we get together, the man has earned his place in the Rafters, why boo, that's classless, for a man who has always been classy....
First if you know anything about basketball and coaching, you can't just win a championship by rolling the ball out, so the ones who constantly say it was Pitino's players are crazy, let's see, Pitino didn't win the championship with those players the year prior...put that to rest
Second, for the ones who say he was fired, or abandoned us, please, he left because his wife had had enough of the racist crab she was hearing in the stands, he never wanted to leave
Third, Tubby is the best X and O coach Kentucky has ever had, add Pitino's defense and Cals recruiting, then you got one hell of a coach, all coaches do one thing great.
Fourth, Tubby recruiting suffered because he ran his program with class, not taking short cuts, not taking bribes, not taking boosters help, if you know what I mean.
Finally, I have got to know Tubby over the years, he has always said positive things about Kentucky, he misses UK, he will do anything for anybody. If you ever run across him, it won't be the typical blow off that some profile people give, he will engage you In a conversation, I live in Virginia, and when High Points in the area, we get together, the man has earned his place in the Rafters, why boo, that's classless, for a man who has always been classy....
Thanks for your open remarks Tubby and Donna have been good friends of ours over 30 years
We have stayed in their home,eaten at their table .The Smiths are kind Christian people who
We are blessed to know
Life is more than basketball although Tubby is one of the best in his profession.
No. Gillispie left us Patterson and almost left us Meeks. Tubby left us that big goofy white guy....forgot his name. And Crawford.
Im giving Sutton a pass.....im not sure who was sending the money to recruits to make the program fall apart. NCAA was getting ready to hammer us and nobody would come to UK. Not sure thats Suttons fault.
But i would say Sutton was a better coach. Head to head a Sutton team would beat Tubby's team 7 out of 10.