Olivier Sarr

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Since his coach is supporting the transfer I don’t see why he wouldn’t get the waiver. Every time we’ve had a player transfer out Cal has supported it no matter where they wanted to go and as far as I remember I think they all received a waiver, at least over the last couple of years.
 

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Just saw his quote from a piece by Ben Roberts in the HL last week, where he spoke with a supposed “expert” on NCAA rules and rulings, guy named Rick Allen:

“But based on the information that’s out there, I wouldn’t be optimistic,” Allen told Ben Roberts.

This could go either way, and there are some distinctions in this case which make it different, but basically everyone outside the UK camp that’s commented has said something similar to this guy. Several folks already have the big guy penciled in to the starting lineup....

Yeah, the degree to which lots of people who possess little understanding of the waiver guidelines have concluded that Sarr will be eligible is bizarre.

Unfortunately, under the guidelines as they stand today, UK faces a major uphill battle in trying to get the NCAA to grant Sarr a waiver.
 
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I wouldn't get your hopes up. They don't like us or Cal and will do anything to screw us while letting others get away with murder. I will be pleasantly surprised if he is ruled eligible. He has support by his former school like our transfers get when they leave, but I will be surprised if that is even good enough for the NCAA.
He will get a waiver to play this year.
 

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Just wondering how you know this timing? I saw the NCAA quoted last week, that they usually respond in 21 days... Of course maybe UK cannot ask for waiver until school starts? Not challenging... just wondering... thanks.

Not sure where the OP saw the timing he quoted, but it’s important to keep in mind that the 21 days covers only one portion of the overall process.

The school requesting the waiver first has to pull together all of the required documentation, which includes documentation that they need the student’s original school (in this case, Wake Forest) to provide or create. Compiling all of the documentation often requires much more time than the 21 days that the NCAA staff needs for their review.

The NCAA will also take longer than 21 days if there is a high volume of requests, if it’s a complicated request that requires follow up questions or if the NCAA requires more documentation from the school. When you hear about kids who are stuck waiting on an answer from the NCAA, the problem is often that the school failed to submit all of the required documentation.

If the NCAA staff deny the waiver after their initial review, then you also have to add on the time required for a reconsideration request and/or an appeal.

So the whole process can end up taking far longer than just the 21 days that the NCAA staff needs to do the initial review.
 

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If you look at the last couple of years the NCAA has granted waivers for players to play immediately. There has been couple of our guys that has transferred and Coach Cal has 100% supported them to play immediately. Baker at Arizona, Green at Washington, and Juzang will get that chance at UCLA

I don't think the fans have looked at Sarr's case in detail to see that he has multiple reasons to get the waiver approved by the NCAA. Yes, His Head Coach Danny Manning was fired but the big issue is how late in the process that Wake Forest waited and then fired Manning. Manning and Wake Forest sat down with Sarr and explained how coming back and working on his game would benefit Sarr and possibly getting drafted in the 1st or 2nd round of the 2021 NBA Draft. Then 2 days later Head Coach Manning was fired. It was then to late for Sarr to put his name in the 2020 NBA Draft. Seth Greenberg has talked about this one a lot on saying that Wake Forest didn't handle the firing of Manning right waiting that late in the process. This also caused Sarr not to be able to decide about putting his name in the 2020 NBA Draft. This was all done wrong by Wake Forest.The NCAA will look at all of this to make there decision. It has been said now that head coach Forbes and Wake Forest will 100% support Sarr 's transfer and waiver. I am sure Danny Manning will support him too. We also have where Coach Cal has helped multiple players the last couple of years. If you look at everything this should be a No Brainer for the NCAA granting immediate eligibility.
 
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Yeah, the degree to which lots of people who possess little understanding of the waiver guidelines have concluded that Sarr will be eligible is bizarre.

Unfortunately, under the guidelines as they stand today, UK faces a major uphill battle in trying to get the NCAA to grant Sarr a waiver.
Major uphill battle? The kid was misled to think how Coach Danny Manning was returning causing Sarr to withdraw his name from the NBA Draft. Plus, the NCAA is only a few short months from changing this trasfer rule anyway. You people are worrying over nothing. The kid will be eligible right away.
 
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Major uphill battle? The kid was misled to think how Coach Danny Manning was returning causing Sarr to withdraw his name from the NBA Draft. Plus, the NCAA is only a few short months from changing this trasfer rule anyway. You people are worrying over nothing. The kid will be eligible right away.

Neither of the two points you mentioned are in any way relevant to any of the current guidelines for approving a waiver.

When I say it’s an uphill battle, I’m speaking from experience. I’ve handled quite a few transfer waiver requests.
 
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Neither of the two points you mentioned are in any way relevant to any of the current guidelines for approving a waiver.

When I say it’s an uphill battle, I’m speaking from experience. I’ve handled quite a few transfer waiver requests.
Hmm, pretty sure Justin Fields’ transfer from UGA to Ohio State was approved and he didn’t meet the current guidelines. Why did Jemarl Baker get approved to Arizona? Sarr will be approved without a hitch.
 
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Yeah, the degree to which lots of people who possess little understanding of the waiver guidelines have concluded that Sarr will be eligible is bizarre.

Unfortunately, under the guidelines as they stand today, UK faces a major uphill battle in trying to get the NCAA to grant Sarr a waiver.
He will get a waiver.
 

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If for some reason Sarr isn’t allowed to play, it would be funny if Cal would trot out an 8’-370 lb. giant that could just dunk it every time down the floor.

 
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Hmm, pretty sure Justin Fields’ transfer from UGA to Ohio State was approved and he didn’t meet the current guidelines. Why did Jemarl Baker get approved to Arizona? Sarr will be approved without a hitch.

Field’s waiver was granted under the egregious behavior guideline. Most people expected it to be approved prior to the NCAA’s decision because his request clearly met the guidelines and was supported by a mountain of contemporaneous documentation.

Baker’s waiver was granted under the player injury guideline. Similar to Field’s case, the thought before the NCAA’s decision was that Baker stood a good chance of having his request approved.

As it stands today, there is zero information that has been made public that would support a waiver request for Sarr under the existing guidelines. Further, some of Sarr’s public comments and the comments of Steve Forbes are actually harmful to his case.
 
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Field’s waiver was granted under the egregious behavior guideline. Most people expected it to be approved prior to the NCAA’s decision because his request clearly met the guidelines and was supported by a mountain of contemporaneous documentation.

Baker’s waiver was granted under the player injury guideline. Similar to Field’s case, the thought before the NCAA’s decision was that Baker stood a good chance of having his request approved.

As it stands today, there is zero information that has been made public that would support a waiver request for Sarr under the existing guidelines. Further, some of Sarr’s public comments and the comments of Steve Forbes are actually harmful to his case.
$100 says he gets cleared. You in?
 
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Field’s waiver was granted under the egregious behavior guideline. Most people expected it to be approved prior to the NCAA’s decision because his request clearly met the guidelines and was supported by a mountain of contemporaneous documentation.

Baker’s waiver was granted under the player injury guideline. Similar to Field’s case, the thought before the NCAA’s decision was that Baker stood a good chance of having his request approved.

As it stands today, there is zero information that has been made public that would support a waiver request for Sarr under the existing guidelines. Further, some of Sarr’s public comments and the comments of Steve Forbes are actually harmful to his case.
He will receive a waiver. How much do you want to wager?
 

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Any news on Sarr's waiver and eligibility?
Gonna be a long time. It will go through the summer before a decision is made on any transfer waivers. I'd say late July beginning of August before classes start.
 

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He will receive a waiver. How much do you want to wager?


You keep repeating this over and over and i hope you are right but my question is are you just hoping or do you have information that he most likely will get a waiver ?
 

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Most think Sarr gets waiver approved. Including me. I'm sure the UL fans listening to Sweeney's show are praying it doesn't happen.
I think he does as well. Just dont logically see how he wouldnt assuming forbes does back his immediate eligibility. Every time Cal has done it a player has gained immediate play. I just really dont trust the ncaa and seeing articles from so called sports writers saying he wont get passed immediately doesnt ease the little doubt i do have.
 

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I'll believe it when I see it. I still say we get screwed over like usual. I'm afraid we will be filing this one under the what could have been along with Kanter.
 
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