UK All-Time Draft Playoffs Rupp'sRunts vs. JHannibalSmith

Who would win head to head


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Son_Of_Saul

Heisman
Dec 7, 2007
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G Fox
G Lamb
G Booker
F Johnson
C Cousins

How do you defend that small ball lineup?
 

hotelblue

Heisman
Jul 6, 2006
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i also got it wrong that he didn’t have enough ball handling a couple weeks ago. he’s got a complete team.
 

Rupp'sRunt

Heisman
Apr 19, 2008
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20,094
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sorry. yes i switched my vote the other night. thanks for tagging me. i must have been high initially. no, it was that i overcharged hannibal for master and conner. so sorry rr. you got one sf and no pf btw stevenson/riddick played the 5, couldn’t shoot or handle the ball. so the lanes for your only penetrator (fox) are clogged. no one would come out on riddick or stevenson, yet you need one of them defensively. fox is a bit overtaxed here having to create for everyone while finding his. i’d say your best matchup is lamb vs azubuike. i think college azubuike would have handled college booker pretty well, unless he’s got the ball the whole time. but that would be fox. i just think he drafted a better more cohesive team. you got 3 nba stars in your starting 5, it’s true. but i like all of his remaining 7 pick a lot better and the cohesion.
Fair enough explanation you switch on a dime tho
 

Son_Of_Saul

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Dec 7, 2007
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johnson on the front line against mccarty? are you serious?
You give up some rebounds, but you make Mercer's team guard you as well. McCarty probably wouldn't like chasing Keldon off screens for 30 minutes and Walter's offensive game was too finesse to make Keldon worry about defending any kind of true low-post game.

If Bowie and McCarty abused them on the glass, then you bring in Riddick or Dakari in a your 5 and Boogie slides to the 4 where he can hit threes.

Meanwhile you have to account for Keldon and Fox driving the lanes every chance they get while also checking Booker and Lamb on the perimeter.
 
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hotelblue

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You give up some rebounds, but you make Mercer's team guard you as well. McCarty probably wouldn't like chasing Keldon off screens for 30 minutes and Walter's offensive game was too finesse to make Keldon worry about defending any kind of true low-post game.

If Bowie and McCarty abused them on the glass, then you bring in Riddick or Dakari in a your 5 and Boogie slides to the 4 where he can hit threes.

Meanwhile you have to account for Keldon and Fox driving the lanes every chance they get while also checking Booker and Lamb on the perimeter.

I mean, I'm rolling with three max NBA guys and the best shooter in UK history, plus one of our program's greatest competitors in Johnson.
nba stars only had so much room in college. that’s pretty much the difference between how we see it. like boogie at the 4. i mean come on. the cohesion thing is part of how i vote. there’s not a single player who plays like or is even in the same position to back up that starting 5 except johnson for cousins.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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nba stars only had so much room in college. that’s pretty much the difference between how we see it. like boogie at the 4. i mean come on. the cohesion thing is part of how i vote. there’s not a single player who plays like or is even in the same position to back up that starting 5 except johnson for cousins.

Andre Riddick was a good player and a really good backup.
 
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hotelblue

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Andre Riddick was a good player and a really good backup.
but like i said he and keldon are not only not alike in any way, they are different positions. you’d put riddick ahead of johnson after cousins? i see that as one position especially for a small lineup. what you’re saying is he has a great late game small ball lineup potential and he does. but if that’s the starting 5 playing most of the game it’s a detriment.
 
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Drcats2025

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Nov 13, 2012
7,948
15,774
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I didn’t ask him to. My last post was supposed to have 4 screenshots of you asking for votes but they won’t post. But idc, honestly. I’m just defending my position that WilliamJ’s vote should count. Just feels like a double standard on that.
I wouldn’t sweat it or waste much more time defending myself to him. He admitted he’s drunk and he’s clearly delusional.
 

DraftCat

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Nov 5, 2011
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Why did yall have to tie the first time? And then maybe tie the 2nd time who knows at this point.

I'm cool with the 3 way vote for the semis and so was @drcats2013 which would of been yall's opponent anyways. This is clearly the best way to do it at this point without wasting another day having another 2nd tiebreaker between you two.

Bummer this has happened but I guess not every contest can be perfect.

Also this is a contest of who drafted the best team... whoever wins likely would of won if it was 1vs1 as is.
 

JHannibalSmith

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Sep 28, 2006
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You give up some rebounds, but you make Mercer's team guard you as well. McCarty probably wouldn't like chasing Keldon off screens for 30 minutes and Walter's offensive game was too finesse to make Keldon worry about defending any kind of true low-post game.

If Bowie and McCarty abused them on the glass, then you bring in Riddick or Dakari in a your 5 and Boogie slides to the 4 where he can hit threes.

Meanwhile you have to account for Keldon and Fox driving the lanes every chance they get while also checking Booker and Lamb on the perimeter.

Keldon? Lol. McCarty would abuse him in every way imaginable. He was 6-10, 230 & long & pretty damn athletic. Also a MUCH better shooter & offensive player than KJ. Plus he was a SR. KJ was a disappointment & didn’t live up to the hype & disappeared for games at a time.
 

hotelblue

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Andre Riddick was a good player and a really good backup.
let me add that it’s not just rebounding with kenldon vs walter. you made a great point about mccarty being reduced to baby hooks in the end. now he’d get them off way easily but it’s a great point about overrating the defensive concerns because of the height differential. mccarty was not a true post player. a poor man’s sam perkins. but now let’s just imagine mccarty checking keldon. walter would have basically not allowed him to complete a pass or much of anything else inside an extended arc. we both know that.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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Dec 7, 2007
45,280
98,875
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but like i said he and keldon are not only not alike in any way, they are different positions. you’d put riddick ahead of johnson after cousins? i see that as one position especially for a small lineup. what you’re saying is he has a great late game small ball lineup potential and he does. but if that’s the starting 5 playing most of the game it’s a detriment.

I think RR's lack of depth at the 4 spot hurts his cause in the next round, but I think it would be enough to get him by in this round when one factors in the ability of Fox and Cousins with Lamb and Booker out on the wing.

Plus, who can hit threes consistently on Mercer's team outside of Walter?

Both teams have massive weaknesses.
 
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JHannibalSmith

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let me add that it’s not just rebounding with kenldon vs walter. you made a great point about mccarty being reduced to baby hooks in the end. now he’d get them off way easily but it’s a great point about overrating the defensive concerns because of the height differential. mccarty was not a true post player. a poor man’s sam perkins. but now let’s just imagine mccarty checking keldon. walter would have basically not allowed him to complete a pass or much of anything else inside an extended arc. we both know that.

He wasn’t a banger by any means but he’d take advantage of the height differential & post up KJ all game long.
 

JHannibalSmith

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I think RR's lack of depth at the 4 spot hurts his cause in the next round, but I think it would be enough to get him by in this round when one factors in the ability of Fox and Cousins with Lamb and Booker out on the wing.

Plus, who can hit threes consistently on Mercer's team outside of Walter?

Both teams have massive weaknesses.

Azubuike & Mercer both shot it well. Jim Master is one of the best shooters ever at UK. Pope was good from 3 also & Minniefield was solid when he was open. Plus with teams having to stop Azubuike & Mercer on the wings & Bowie inside there should be tons of open looks.
 

TortElvisII

Heisman
May 7, 2010
51,700
96,942
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I think RR's lack of depth at the 4 spot hurts his cause in the next round, but I think it would be enough to get him by in this round when one factors in the ability of Fox and Cousins with Lamb and Booker out on the wing.

Plus, who can hit threes consistently on Mercer's team outside of Walter?

Both teams have massive weaknesses.

Jim Master
 
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JHannibalSmith

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it’s a fair point. azubuike would have to be it if i chose. master definitely had the range and was a marksman.

McCarty was 40% from 3 for his career. Azubuike was 37% for his career. Mercer was slightly above average at around 35%. Pope only took 1.3/game but hit 41% of them. Master played in the pre-3 point era but is one of the best shooters I’ve seen at UK. He’s a guy whose entire legacy would be different if he had the benefit of the 3 point shot IMO.
 
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