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_Chase_

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There are just no good options right now.

Open it all back up = massive spread, massive deaths, economy is hurt by that.

Keep it shut down = slower spread, still some deaths, economy ******.

We’re going to have to pick our poison, or figure out a successful way to both keep flattening and open up. I’m not sure how that happens successfully, but hopefully some smart people can figure it out.
 

KingLlama

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Brandan Stroud

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The models have taken social distancing, etc. into account and they were still wrong. The numbers aren't down because we were so good at social distancing. Maybe it's OK to say both 1) it wasn't/isn't a hoax BUT 2) the modeling was wrong and so it's possible we can adjust our reaction accordingly now that we have more data.
 
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cole854

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Open it all back up = massive spread, massive deaths, economy is hurt by that.

Keep it shut down = slower spread, still some deaths, economy ****ed.

Your "open it all back up" isn't being considered as an option anywhere.
 

_Chase_

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I was referring to what you want to do. Maybe that’s not exactly what you want, but your posts seem to indicate that.
 

TheShowKiller

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There are just no good options right now.

Open it all back up = massive spread, massive deaths, economy is hurt by that.

Keep it shut down = slower spread, still some deaths, economy ****ed.

We’re going to have to pick our poison, or figure out a successful way to both keep flattening and open up. I’m not sure how that happens successfully, but hopefully some smart people can figure it out.
No mass gatherings probably though the fall, necessary travel only, business/courts/etc. operate under social distancing guidelines but re-open. Encourage outdoor activities, disperse the population as much as possible. At risk people continue to remain home and limit contact with the public and family/friends. Continue to encourage the use of gloves, masks, etc if you must be indoors and in close proximity to a group of people.

We know what this is for the most part, we know how to at least slow it down for the most part. This should be a controlled burn...you aren't going to eliminate exposure but slow the spread down. Little by little you have to crack open the door and hope the public and businesses can be trusted to take necessary precautions.
 
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The interesting numbers to me are coming from Iceland, UAE and Bahrain - rich countries who tested a large swath of the population (4%+) of their population. In those cases the death rate is currently well below 1%. Now layer on that those fatalities by age range show that 45 and under has an extremely low fatality rate.

We have to figure out how to segment society and get young healthy people out there living their lives and supporting society while we figure out how to resolve how Coronavirus impacts the old and sick.
 
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Wrong

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Not to go all UKO here but Beshear is about to show his true colors. He is a dipshit. He only won because Bevin was asshoe. I think people want a plan. Saying we are not even to halftime and we have do this thru June is what has sparked the protests. That he underestimated it is telling.
 

cole854

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I was referring to what you want to do. Maybe that’s not exactly what you want, but your posts seem to indicate that.

No...it needs to be phased in and yes, the people on the council are a helluva lot smarter than me about how that needs to happen. But the overall hypocrisy will remain....I can browse around Kroger or Lowes, but can't go get a new polo at Logans. Essential...non-essential...all BS when you look at the head count and the social distancing in the stores. There are many businesses that would have a much safer person to person interaction than what is deemed essential and open now.
 

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The interesting numbers to me are coming from Iceland, UAE and Bahrain - rich countries who tested a large swath of the population (4%+) of their population. In those cases the death rate is currently well below 1%. Now layer on that those fatalities by age range show that 45 and under has an extremely low fatality rate.

We have to figure out how to segment society and get young healthy people out there living their lives and supporting society while we figure out how to resolve how Coronavirus impacts the old and sick.
Yeah, but do the UAE and Bahrain numbers include their slaves? Makes you think.

Not to go all UKO here but Beshear is about to show his true colors. He is a dipshit. He only won because Bevin was asshoe. I think people want a plan. Saying we are not even to halftime and we have do this thru June is what has sparked the protests. That he underestimated it is telling.
People are idiots. Plans are nothing; planning is everything.
 
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Nope. Teachers love him and I get why. Bevin was a total *******. He had a lot valid points regarding the pension but it was his delivery.

I can also say that I respect the crap out of teachers and believe they are way underpaid for the impact the have on our youth. I also believe that while they’re “working at home” during all of this and not missing a penny from their paycheck generates a different perspective than those in the private sector.

So carry on with BEERS WITH BESHEAR! YAY!!
 

jwheat

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Or hear me out... We can let people decide for themselves if they want to go back to work because we are adults. Give people the information to Keep them safe and let them do with it as they please.

How many of the people shaming the protesters and even trying to ruin their already on life support business are struggling themselves right now? How many are living off our tax dollars?
 
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It is time to get back to work. We flattened the curve well enough that the health care systems never remotely reached levels of capacity. Folks understand the importance of keeping distance, washing hands etc.

Beshear has done a good job but it's time to quit acting like we are New York. People are going to catch it and unfortunately those vulnerable will die in time.
 
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SAECATFAN

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Plenty to debate, I think we should begin to lessen the restrictions on businesses, for sure. Controlled burn is a good term.

Personally, I really think the anger for these fictional people that are "enjoying" this is a bit absurd but find something or someone to get pissed at if it helps. I get it. And I might add that Trump getting a pass for his absurdness while throwing Beshear under a bus is comical at best. But again, I get it.
 

joeyrupption

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Some businesses need to be opened back up soon. Some can maintain less than 10 people and keep people six feet apart. What is the argument for not opening them back up slowly. Seriously, let’s hear it.
I agree that stuff should start opening back up soon.

I think the argument is that most Americans are not conscientious towards others and are dumb as hell to boot (as opposed to Swedes) - so they won’t follow the guidelines well and this thing will be worse once the rest of the food supply chain, etc., start to really shut down.

We lost 5% of our pork during lockdown conditions by shutting down one plant, so what’re the next dominoes to fall when we open it back up and let this thing really mow us down (w/mild sickness, not death) and manpower isn’t there?

Supermarket shelves are a lagging indicator.
 

anthonys735

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Plenty to debate, I think we should begin to lessen the restrictions on businesses, for sure. Controlled burn is a good term.
Correct and really even it's just very very minimal it will alleviate a ton of anxiety.

I just don't get why it's fine for Kentucky to be full tilt on construction and California/New York to be locked down.
Why are some retailers responsible enough to follow safe guidelines and others not?
Why are we laying off thousands from UK Hospital when it's at 25% capacity?

To not even entertain discussing these items seems irrational. I haven't heard 1 person discuss a full open but to act like specific businesses are some home more responsible than others seems odd.
 
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Kennedy_UK

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Not to go all UKO here but Beshear is about to show his true colors. He is a dipshit. He only won because Bevin was asshoe. I think people want a plan. Saying we are not even to halftime and we have do this thru June is what has sparked the protests. That he underestimated it is telling.
Andy seems to be following the “ZOMG I’m a Democrat Governor” playbook from Newsom, Inslee, Cuomo and Murphy.

You know he’s clueless when he thinks the 2k cases in Kentucky needs the exact same response as the 213k cases in New York. o_O
 
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I think a reason Trump isn’t catching hell from some is, one, MY TEAM, but more importantly, all the substantive government lockdown stuff comes from the governors and local governments.
 
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Add this to your why’s.......why are Liqour stores open but distilleries are closed?

I understand not allowing tours and tastings, but they don’t have to be closed(I’m not talking the distillation or bottling side of operations)
 

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I think a reason Trump isn’t catching hell from some is, one, MY TEAM, but more importantly, all the substantive government lockdown stuff comes from the governors and local governments.
I think it’s because his animosity to China is proving to be totally justified and shutting down the flights early was a “blind squirrel finding a nut,” scenario for The LEFT.
 

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Beshear decided to take shots at the state we share our longest border with early in the process, thought it was a bad idea at the time and seems like a worse idea now that states are working together to get things opened up.

Also we are currently sitting at 44th per capita in testing, given our death rate the excuse that we report tests differently is complete bs.
 

joeyrupption

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Add this to your why’s.......why are Liqour stores open but distilleries are closed?

I understand not allowing tours and tastings, but they don’t have to be closed(I’m not talking the distillation or bottling side of operations)
Because alcoholics buy from liquor stores, not distilleries. And that’s who the gov is looking out for in this situation. They don’t want alcoholics to get withdrawals and need healthcare.
 
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My complaint about the governor is this: he seems to be doing the easy stuff (forcing people to shut down the economy), while I'm getting nothing from him on the hard stuff (getting more tests, ensuring the food supply chain is working, getting PPE to the hospitals).
 
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Ok, fine, but if he suddenly became model president guy, it would not do a GD thing re state lockdowns one way or the other.

Has nothing to do with that. Has to do with he just cant STFU and deal with the issues at hand. Instead he wants to pick fights with media, continue to bold face lie about a multitude of things and hold daily circus shows.

Complete embarrassment.
 
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